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More => Old Versions => Media Center 14 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: Griff on September 28, 2009, 07:06:38 pm
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Hi Matt, another great creation for Theater View.
One small prob.
http://pix01.com/9f@GzVU
A number of months ago you released "Theater View Background" playlist.
That was neat, especially when you leave the playlist empty and get
a random show of cover art and images.
Prior to that we had Smoke, aka Dynamite, aka ect.
(VIDEO BACKGROUND -- Ours and Guest favorite)
This is getting kind of sticky, when changing background modes.
So Im "ASSUMING" that "Themes" is an attempt to put them in one place
for easy selection.
And youll move this to Theater View for selection from there.
Or am I dreaming again.
;D
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We're throwing darts, hoping one will stick.
Tonight's dart is the idea of integrating context-sensitive still images into the background.
Next we'd like to make changing colors or backgrounds in Theater View more like picking Windows wallpaper and less like editing XML.
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Tonight's dart is the idea of integrating context-sensitive still images into the background.
WOW! I like it! 8)
I think there's a lot of potential in this approach. It avoids the problems of other suggestions that would involve using images too specific in nature. Most importantly, it provides a pleasing and impressive result—without me having to do anything. Applying it to video will be more challenging, but I suppose images of actors could be used the same way as images of artists are used for music. Then all we'll need is for it to analyze photos and play appropriate background music while displaying them. ;)
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very nice, and fairly easy to change the pics and to add to categories. i like it...
:)
gab
maybe adding a 'default' image could be nice for those places images?
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So, what exactly is context-sensetive images, and where are they picked from? I'd have a problem if I don't have images in my library, or do you support a set of images with MC? I'll check later on my test computer.
When I first saw this, I automatically thought of stock images of music, video and image related images to be shown when we are in the corresponding views. Series backgrounds would also do great here, but again... it would need to have series art, and MC does not currently support that in a good way.
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very nice, and fairly easy to change the pics and to add to categories. i like it...
OK, you got me... how??
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OK, you got me... how??
under skins>thv in the program files there is folder theme. you can change the pics there, or add for instance one called: playing now. or: news.
i have not tested yet if a new install will overwrite the images. but i would not expect that. ;)
:)
gab
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I LIKE it! Nice addition. Really smooth. This only works for Root items? I tried to make a series.jpg and entered the series view, but it did not change. The root item is Video.
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Next we'd like to make changing colors or backgrounds in Theater View more like picking Windows wallpaper and less like editing XML.
I like the sound of this a lot. Customisation via the XML (for those who dare, like me) is still important for placement of items etc but colour and background customisation through a GUI interface would be well received I'd imagine, Also, I really miss the degree of customisation that used to be possible in previous versions (MC12/13). For example, it's no longer possible to define context sensitive images for the main menu and text colours (for highlighted items say) is also not possible anymore either.
Maybe we could finally get more than just time and zone id show up on the main page too? I'd like to put the date on there for example.
Cheers.
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With tonight's build you can mix videos into the theme.
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Looks awesome Matt.
I originally posted this in the build thread coz I didn't realise Griff already raised it ... Background images only seem to fill part of the screen. The right third of the screen isn't covered..
[EDIT] perhaps this is intentional? So that the info panel isn't obscurred?
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I originally posted this in the build thread coz I didn't realise Griff already raised it ... Background images only seem to fill part of the screen. The right third of the screen isn't covered..
I think it's an aspect ratio thing. Images are placed at the top left below the header. The right and bottom edges fade out softly. They're drawn so that aspect ratio is preserved. No cropping is done to make the image fill the screen.
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Should I be seeing the audio/image/video default images at some point (in their respective views)? So far, it seems whenever a default image is called for, the "subway" image is used.
Default images, BTW, can be manually cropped/resized to fit one's monitor resolution. But I assume before this is finished, multiple images will be provided and the appropriate set selected. As for the downloaded images, I think the way they're being handled is the best choice possible. I suppose restricting images used to a certain aspect ratio range would be possible, but I don't see any compelling reason to do so. The fading in and out of images of different sizes is part of what makes it visually interesting. I should point out I favour the list style with the list on the left and the covers on the right. The drawing of the images from the top left works particularly well for that list style, but perhaps not for others.
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The drawing of the images from the top left works particularly well for that list style, but perhaps not for others.
Exactly. For list views, it looks ok coz you have the info panel on the right but, a view full of thumbs with a background that only partially fills the screen looks a little odd to me.
By the way, I'm mostly talking about artist images that appear while browsing audio (man, this is awesome!). I've actually removed the default images for now and MC still honors my default background (as defined by the skin in use). I love this!
Cheers.
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Exactly. For list views, it looks ok coz you have the info panel on the right but, a view full of thumbs with a background that only partially fills the screen looks a little odd to me.
Maybe the image handling could be different depending on the view style in use. If that's feasible, my suggestion would be to do it so the area not filled by the image is most likely occupied by thumbnails...
- list with thumbnails—drawn from the top left, as they are now.
- thumbnails only—drawn from the bottom and centred horizontally.
- list only—drawn from the top right.
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:o :o
this is fun.. very well done..
in playing now, am i right it only works when there is only one artist in playing now? i think it would be amazing when it would pick the images of the artist of the song that is playing, or which song has focus? when in playing now only, ofcource.
thanks a lot.
:)
gab
some extra thoughts. i guess the images are taken from google images? could it be an idea to add some music sites like last fm or something like that to the search. when i look to for instance derek bailey, i always get the pictures of this small baby that died when he was a few months old, :(
not say what i get with the band called massacre (i know terrible name, and no, its not Death metal).
will listen to my carla bruni record a bit more often though.
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So, where is the text actually picked up? Root it self and the root items is used, but can we also use this for Artists, and individual series? Which tags is read from? Is the file caption used? :-X
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i tried to add an avi in the background, and that worked nicely. also tried a mov, which didnt, maybe as expected.
:)
gab
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i guess the images are taken from google images? could it be an idea to add some music sites like last fm or something like that to the search.
or maybe add an option to look inside mc first, inside a smartlist or something like that, so people can use their own collection of images of artist. and that would give some new interesting new possebilities..
thanks for keeping me of working this morning.. its nice.
:)
gab
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Indeed. Some "Image currently unavailable" messages showing up from Flickr there too.
On the whole, the system works really, really well. Excellent results for Avril Lavigne and Bob Dylan for example.
They're too easy though, and the system tried, and failed, when I gave it artists such as 'Texas', 'The Associates', 'T'Pau', 'ABC' etc. etc.
"Turin Brakes" returned some nice vehicular photos, along with with some artist photos, so not a complete failure there.
No pornography so far, so not all bad, and the system seems also nicely disabled for multi-artist albums, which makes sense.
Good stuff so far though, very impressive.
-marko.
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The images come from Google Images and htbackdrops.com. We're open to suggestions for other sources.
It would also be possible to play YouTube videos or similar in the background, although the quality of online video is still so low I don't think it'd look too sharp.
Indeed. Some "Image currently unavailable" messages showing up from Flickr there too.
Have you noticed an artist name that shows one of these? I think we could probably filter them out.
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Yes, it downloads images from other sources. Just figured it out. Nifty!
Would it be possible to use user chosen images? I've tried to copy images to the skin/theme folder but it don't work even though I have the correct name for the artist in the filename. The reason is that some things like series would be cool to have ONE good image background to. Not random stuff that might not look as good.
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Looks good Matt
Thanks for adding Video to last night build
Images:
3264x1840
http://pix01.com/Ef@J8011
I dont know
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Video:
Fills screen
http://pix01.com/Ff@sf4I
Is there any reason you are using AVI as a default?
I see problems with this.
(dont see anything in XML to change)
In the past with testing, I found wmv was the best when it came to quality and speed with MC.
Anyway, have a video playing in say like TV, now travel through the roller bars
notice the video keeps restarting?
also if you try using a mpeg youll get an Action Window.
Thanks for great work.
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Have you noticed an artist name that shows one of these? I think we could probably filter them out.
Dire Straits produces a "File not found" image from picturepush.com...
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Build 77 adds the ability to have multiple themes installed. You switch between them in Options > Theater View.
It also allows making, sharing, and installing other themes.
As an example of other themes, here's a higher resolution version of the included scheme that will look sharper:
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/beta_c3po/theme/Default%20(high%20resolution).zip
Here's a silly Napoleon Dynamite skin that shows using a video:
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/beta_c3po/theme/Dynamite.zip
Using build 77, download the zip files above, then pick Options > Theater View > Theme > Install theme from zip file...
Thanks for the continued feedback.
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Would it be possible to use user chosen images?
Or maybe a way to kill two birds with one stone...
Instead of, or in addition to Artist, use search terms found in a designated list field, where the "search terms" may be URL's as well as words. If only URL's (which could point to local files) were provided, only those specific images would be used. Also allow NOT terms, so saving the term -car for Genesis tracks would result in more of the band and less of the Hyundai.
Even with such a mechanism, however, it would be preferable if there were a way to restrict inappropriate images globally (e.g., don't uses images of cars for any music artists).
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Next build will filter out images with these fingerprints:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/219747/1024/Zene/Dire-Straits---Love-Over-Gold---Recto.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1132/536455557_3e6d81ccd2.jpg
Let us know if there are others.
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i think it is really nice, but i do believe there should be a way to set or filter out images, or let the user overrule a search and use some from its own computer. i just made a random list with artists from my library, 20 artists, and only 2 had nice images, a few had some, a lot had none. allen holdsworth, for instance, i get cars and some score, maybe a drummer who played with him ones, and a guitar that maybe has his name on it, but not himself.
joe sachse: i get nothing but some other guy with the same family name, i know there are some images on the net, but, i think, the search wants only images from a certain resolution, so i get no hits. with classical music i get mostly scores.
what i already mentioned, massacre, those images alone would be reason for me to not use this feature.
even the record from Carlos Santana & John McLaughlin gives me images, that are more close, like paco de lucia and miles davis, and a bit from those two.
and what with for instance the most influencel german band in rock history: can. or OM, or how about the japanese artist: UA. ever listened to the japanes progrock band : Bondage Fruit. i know now that there are people doing that to fruit. 8)
:)
gab
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I realize this is experimental, but how do I just not use a theme and have my skin look that way it did in the prior builds?
If I select 'no theme', there is no background image or animated image.
Thanks
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I'm a fan of Seal's music. However, when in Seal's albums, I'm getting background images of some cute, furry aquatic animal. Some of Seal's music is clubby, but most is not, so those critters are a bit out of place. :)
I should add that I love the Themes idea, and it's executed beautifully, even in the default theme.
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Adding artist or band in the searches might solve lots of this?
Or maybe a way to kill two birds with one stone...
Instead of, or in addition to Artist, use search terms found in a designated list field, where the "search terms" may be URL's as well as words. If only URL's (which could point to local files) were provided, only those specific images would be used. Also allow NOT terms, so saving the term -car for Genesis tracks would result in more of the band and less of the Hyundai.
I like this idea! A search terms field would be sweet. Then we could mix online and local content, and easily separate video and music for instance.
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I realize this is experimental, but how do I just not use a theme and have my skin look that way it did in the prior builds?
Party's over :P
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Party's over :P
that is a pity. :(
was fun though
:)
gab
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Party's over :P
Yeah, I'm a party pooper, sorry.
Don't get me wrong though, if I spent some time and came up with my own theme, I would probably use it, but for now, I just want to have what I had!
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Hey this looks really great!
Party's over :P
I hope it's not going away! I think there's a lot of potential here!
I don't have MC for a few weeks, so haven't been able to try it out...
Would it be possible to find images from the library using custom searches for the theme background, in a way similar to the way we specify which info panel to show for theater view -- we could have particular search results (the images) showing for particular criteria (the contents of the view) for each view
Eg. If [Media Sub Type]=Movie then show images meeting the search criteria =[Movie Title]
This could show backgrounds which match the name of the movie.
If no search results are found, then your standard defaults could just be used.
Is this possible?
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Hey this looks really great!
I hope it's not going away! I think there's a lot of potential here!
I don't have MC for a few weeks, so haven't been able to try it out...
Would it be possible to find images from the library using custom searches for the theme background, in a way similar to the way we specify which info panel to show for theater view -- we could have particular search results (the images) showing for particular criteria (the contents of the view) for each view
Eg. If [Media Sub Type]=Movie then show images meeting the search criteria =[Movie Title]
This could show backgrounds which match the name of the movie.
If no search results are found, then your standard defaults could just be used.
Is this possible?
I agree, I'm not a big fan of automatic image selection from the net, but to be able to have images selected from the library based on criteria woud be really cool.
So when I browse into my Frasier TV series I get a Frasier background that I have selected.
Richard
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i also agree. when this beautiful feature gets combined with the power of the mc library for organizing media, so in this case images and videos as background. i think it could be marvelous. 8)
:)
gab
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I've not had the time to explore this fully but I really like what I have seen so far.
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Haven't really had a chance to test this yet, but a couple of concerns-
1. Sites with hotlink protection. These can sometimes add some quite nasty stuff.
2. Are you filtering out small images at all? I'd probably dump anything below about 100x100 px as too small and blurred to be of any use.
Cheers
-Leezer-
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15. NEW: Theater View allows selection of a background color and overlay image strength for themes.
This is a fantastic change. Thanks, Matt.
Picture attached.
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Very cool Jim, do the waves move?
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Not in mine, but I think you could do that with a video now.
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Here's a free water movie if anyone has an iStockPhoto account:
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=6055863
Just download it and drop it in a theme folder. I think it'd be neat to make a theme with lots of clips like this, but the download size would be a problem for us since the whole thing could easily be 100's of megabytes.
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I put some screenshots on Pix01 (http://www.pix01.com/gallery/8D12431D-7EA0-495D-9EA2-775091458CB9/Theme_Colors/).
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with 79 i got a flickr message. in case you wanne know. its from marc ribot.
:)
gab
PS: same with tracy bonham, i dont know how i could find which image it is.
i also dont mind the flickr message much.
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I like where this is going... but at the same time I would like to see something else along side it moving faster.
I find the slow movement through the images gives me an uneasy feeling, like watching the second hand on a clock ticking when your waiting for something really important.
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I agree with the comments about pulling images from the net in Playing Now. The random nature of the pics seem out of place. I'd like to be able to have playing now select from images that are appropriate for what is actually playing now.
It also seems like a never ending task to maintain a blacklist of images.
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Here's a free water movie if anyone has an iStockPhoto account:
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=6055863
Just download it and drop it in a theme folder. I think it'd be neat to make a theme with lots of clips like this, but the download size would be a problem for us since the whole thing could easily be 100's of megabytes.
What formats besides .mov does it accept? Can it work for the Dreamscene format: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=794&libid=50
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Would it be possible to find images from the library using custom searches for the theme background, in a way similar to the way we specify which info panel to show for theater view -- we could have particular search results (the images) showing for particular criteria (the contents of the view) for each view
Eg. If [Media Sub Type]=Movie then show images meeting the search criteria =[Movie Title]
Most elegant, I'm with you. That's where things would come together, especially for users having big local collections that will act as movies posters, backgrounds, artists images, fanart, etc.
From a different angle - is there any advice regarding the size and resolution for the images used? Is there a difference in format decoding time (JPG, BMP, PNG) that would matter? Can't say I've noticed anything from limited testing but I'm curious if I need to 'adjust' my local resources.
Really pleased with this new feature!
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Found nice video backgrounds here:
http://www.dreamscene.org/gallery.php?page=1&Cmd=Show&site=3D_animation#downloadgallery
If you have other sources please share!
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is there any advice regarding the size and resolution for the images used? Is there a difference in format decoding time (JPG, BMP, PNG) that would matter? Can't say I've noticed anything from limited testing but I'm curious if I need to 'adjust' my local resources.
Any of these should work. Higher resolution will look better, but you're the best judge of that.
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Can't get videos to play. Installed the 'Dynamite' theme but no video plays. I do see the images playback though.
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I'm a fan of Seal's music. However, when in Seal's albums, I'm getting background images of some cute, furry aquatic animal. Some of Seal's music is clubby, but most is not, so those critters are a bit out of place. :)
I should add that I love the Themes idea, and it's executed beautifully, even in the default theme.
A seal walked into a club.
Couldn't resist! :)
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the only wallpaper site that really matters is interfacelift, 1000's of wallpapers all at 6 to 7 sizes including full 1080p, all free, pick your wallpaper, pick your size and download.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/downloads/date/any/ (http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/downloads/date/any/)
TC :)
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A seal walked into a club.
... and had a bashing good time.
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This thing with background online searching for artists' images works great but... care to bet on what happens if the artist you're listening to graced the covers of FHM, Playboy and the likes? One might need to warn the casual listeners around him that the whole listening experience became a bit edgier... ;) I'd still use my local collection should an option allowing local resources would be implemented.
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This thing with background online searching for artists' images works great but... care to bet on what happens if the artist you're listening to graced the covers of FHM, Playboy and the likes? One might need to warn the casual listeners around him that the whole listening experience became a bit edgier... ;) I'd still use my local collection should an option allowing local resources would be implemented.
We did notice. We're thinking about what to do. Sorry if it's caused any problems.
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We did notice. We're thinking about what to do.
Don't forget many of us would love the option to include more such images. Perhaps with a hot-button for switching back to "prude-mode." ;D
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:) I think I've spent too much of my life in prude mode. :-\
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Interesting... I was more thinking it would be troublesome if violent or graphically disturbing images appeared. Funny how we each have our own sensitivities wrt sex and violence.
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Well, seriously then...
I always appreciate such things to be configurable. Even if it makes no difference, at least I won't feel I'm been held hostage to someone else's sensitivities. But if that's not feasible, I believe most general purpose image sites offer some kind of filtering mechanism. For example, I use Google Images with "moderate filtering," and don't recall ever seeing anything offensive there. If such filtering is necessary but not available, I'd rather the site not be used. On the other hand, I don't expect MC to go any further than using such filters.
I think the bigger challenge is configuring the searches so they retrieve relevant images. When I'm browsing/playing The Cars or Genesis, I expect the images to be relevant to those bands, not automobiles. I've never thought about it much before, but there sure are a lot of rock bands named after cars, animals, cities, states... :-\
For video, attempting to search for images for a specific movie or series doesn't seem practical. It would be better if a user-specified URL were used (it could, for example, point to the IMDb images page). It would be nice, however, if the search were for images of the actors appearing in the selected video.
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... it would be troublesome if violent or graphically disturbing images appeared ...
I don't think what Rick is talking about is violent or disturbing.
But that's probably way off topic. I might need to split some of this later.
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Interesting... I was more thinking it would be troublesome if violent or graphically disturbing images appeared. Funny how we each have our own sensitivities wrt sex and violence.
its those violent images that keep me from using it all the time on my main media machine. but its easy to put on or off, so.
today i got this popup.
:)
gab
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Would it be useful to create an app (web or in MC) where you're able to download/upload themes? Preferable with voting, lists of popularity, # downloads etc.
One of MC's weak sides has always been that it feel quite "disconnected", especially between users. It would be nice to extend the community to more than this board. :)
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Would it be useful to create an app (web or in MC) where you're able to download/upload themes? Preferable with voting, lists of popularity, # downloads etc.
Oh yea. That would be sweet. Especially if we now got the ability to add our own local photos and videos in themes.
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A few things.
Videos as background. I wonder what are you guys using because from my testing most of the videos do not fit for backgrounds since they're instantly distracting. Those should be carefully crafted vids, the waves of PS3, the glowing lights of a Tivo, etc. Subtlety.
For video, attempting to search for images for a specific movie or series doesn't seem practical. It would be better if a user-specified URL were used (it could, for example, point to the IMDb images page).
That's what the word "fanart" stands for. On some other part of the planet :) the same endeavor spawned hundreds if not thousands of images as background for movies. They are available; they can be created for what's not available. In a couple of months packs of hundreds of MB with images for every movie can be put together. Think "Flood!" :) It can be done.
Oh yea. That would be sweet. Especially if we now got the ability to add our own local photos and videos in themes.
My theme is already 50MB without any vids as background. If the granularity is developed further, so that pics can be attached / linked to specific vids (per movie, per series/season/episode, per clip) that size (at least in my case) will increase ten-fold. What app? Hosting will be the problem.
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That's what the word "fanart" stands for. On some other part of the planet Smiley the same endeavor spawned hundreds if not thousands of images as background for movies. They are available... It can be done.
Where? How?
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http://www.themoviedb.org/movie to begin with.
Besides this one there are other sources but they are more or less related to competing projects. All my movies stored on HDDs (300+) have high-res posters, high-res backdrops/fanart, and 10 (HQ) thumbnails at random from each movie. Not all these resources are used currently in MC but they could be.
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The coverage and consistency are still not great (based on some quick testing from my own collection), but it's a lot better than it was six months ago. Most of my web searches (using original titles) produced a results page rather than a direct hit. That may be better using their API, but it makes me wonder. Also, it seems JRiver would need to negotiate and arrangement in order to use it.
There's also TheTVDb (http://www.thetvdb.com/), which might be considered a similar deal for series. But it's unclear to me whether the API provides suitable access to images. Personal Video Database has a plugin for it, but we don't get any images from that.
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My theme is already 50MB without any vids as background. If the granularity is developed further, so that pics can be attached / linked to specific vids (per movie, per series/season/episode, per clip) that size (at least in my case) will increase ten-fold. What app? Hosting will be the problem.
The app could be either built-in in MC, like a plugin thing, or a simple web based application, similar to the plugin pages for MC, but slicker (think Firefox plugins/themes).
I don't think hosting is going to be an issue, disk space is cheap these days :) Bandwith, well, all niceties comes with a price, and I would happily pay for more connectivity in MC (to use a common phrase by marketing where I work; bring MC to the cloud era). This could also be a start for more exciting things, like sharing views, smartlists, statistics between users.
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Regarding video backgrounds. I posted way back somewhen in the 13 thread about having playing now as a background (assuming video playing now, akin to windows mc) but it seemed then that this was too problematic for some reason and could not be implemented. It seems logical that if video backgrounds is to be a pemanent new feature that we should also have playing now as an option for a background (with time out to remove the overlay and a shourtcut key to bring it back / remove it again) don't you think? Or am i still missing something?
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Regarding video backgrounds. I posted way back somewhen in the 13 thread about having playing now as a background (assuming video playing now, akin to windows mc) but it seemed then that this was too problematic for some reason and could not be implemented. It seems logical that if video backgrounds is to be a pemanent new feature that we should also have playing now as an option for a background (with time out to remove the overlay and a shourtcut key to bring it back / remove it again) don't you think? Or am i still missing something?
The playback display could be a Direct3D window, an OpenGL window, a regular GDI window, a DirectShow renderer with hardware acceleration, etc. There's no consistent, high-performance way to get data from the playing window to mix into another area with Windows.
Forcing all playback drawing into a custom Direct3D render target might work, but it would also add bad limitations to the types of playback displays we could support. (i.e. no GDI, no OpenGL, etc.)
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Videos as background. I wonder what are you guys using because from my testing most of the videos do not fit for backgrounds since they're instantly distracting. Those should be carefully crafted vids, the waves of PS3, the glowing lights of a Tivo, etc. Subtlety.
My personal opinion on this new feature: I most likely will have it disabled (unless it evolves into something really interesting). I thought the moving MC logo background was distracting.. now I wish I had it back.. :)
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Sorry to drag this one up...
I actually like the Video playing in the background and currently have Music Clips playing in the Audio section, Movie Previews playing in the Movies section etc.
What I would like to see is
* Some way to use shortcuts or playlists in the folder, so that I don't need to take up my HDD space with duplicates of my clips, which are stored on another HDD.
* Some way to control Audio on these files - especially the movie previews. I'd love my HTPC to act like those big preview screens they have at the cinemas, esp now with trailers being released in big screen HD goodness.
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Is it possible to add as an option in the Theme configuration to keep the "rolling MC Logo" on the Theatre View opening page (ie home page) rather than a picture
(while still retaining the"show online media in artist view") ? or is there a workaround to do this ?
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Or allow an animation (rolling Logo or whatever) on the theme
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hi, where do we find the picture\video slideshow option? dynamite?, where are the theme downloads is there a wiki? i cannot seem to find it and would love to incorporate it into my theaterview. thank you.
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A number of months ago you released "Theater View Background" playlist.
Is there still a way to use a playlist for background pictures?
Erik.
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Videos as background. I wonder what are you guys using because from my testing most of the videos do not fit for backgrounds since they're instantly distracting. Those should be carefully crafted vids, the waves of PS3, the glowing lights of a Tivo, etc. Subtlety.
I really like the current theme with paintings in the background but waves or glowing lights... this would be a killer!
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is there a wiki on how to do what you all are talking about? im not finding these features you all speak of.
thank you.
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Look here:
C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 14\Skins\Theater View\Themes\Default
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ohh ok.. so we just add what we want to those folders i see.
ok thank you.