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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 27 for Windows => Topic started by: lgTnG07 on March 19, 2021, 06:12:04 pm

Title: I can't convert my m4a files to flac.
Post by: lgTnG07 on March 19, 2021, 06:12:04 pm
Recently I was able to convert my m4a files to flac. Now I can't convert them. Is this just a flaw in the software? Is there a workaround?

P.S. I would like to be able to convert all my files to DSD 512 within the Media Center software. Is there any development going on to offer this level of conversion? What about DSD 1024?
Title: Re: I can't convert my m4a files to flac.
Post by: Soundwave on March 19, 2021, 08:45:26 pm
M4A can mean ALAC files, or MP4 AAC files for example, so it might help the developers to know which one you're having problem with precisely.

Also, I just tested the converter, and it works to convert both ALAC and MP4 AAC file formats to FLAC. No idea why yours isn't. Maybe you need to download iTunes or something that installs the M4A encoder compatibility on your device.

As for DSD512, there seems to be an issue with the converter for ages now. There is no actual way of taking anything besides DSD64 and turning it into a PCM format of any kind (including FLAC). I've tested this with DSD64, 128, and 256 - sorry I don't have any DSD512 content and certainly no DSD1024 content, so it's almost certain these formats cant be directly converted to FLAC.

What is possible though, is the converter seems capable of converting DSD256 for example to DSD64, and THEN you can convert that to FLAC. Otherwise, whatever converter JRiver is using, seems not capable of doing the direct conversion. I know your next question would be wondering if doing multiple conversions would cause degradation to the file, to that, I can only say the following. If the converter is competent, then there should be nothing of the sort. Whether you can take DSD to FLAC without any theoretical loss in content is something WAY beyond my technical understanding to say definitively (but since they're both digital formats in reality, there shouldn't be an issue if the decoders aren't botched in practice).

In reality though, it truly doesn't matter because

Title: Re: I can't convert my m4a files to flac.
Post by: dtc on March 20, 2021, 07:22:50 am


Also, I just tested the converter, and it works to convert both ALAC and MP4 AAC file formats to FLAC. No idea why yours isn't. Maybe you need to download iTunes or something that installs the M4A encoder compatibility on your device.

As for DSD512, there seems to be an issue with the converter for ages now. There is no actual way of taking anything besides DSD64 and turning it into a PCM format of any kind (including FLAC). I've tested this with DSD64, 128, and 256 - sorry I don't have any DSD512 content and certainly no DSD1024 content, so it's almost certain these formats cant be directly converted to FLAC.

What is possible though, is the converter seems capable of converting DSD256 for example to DSD64, and THEN you can convert that to FLAC. Otherwise, whatever converter JRiver is using, seems not capable of doing the direct conversion. I know your next question would be wondering if doing multiple conversions would cause degradation to the file, to that, I can only say the following. If the converter is competent, then there should be nothing of the sort. Whether you can take DSD to FLAC without any theoretical loss in content is something WAY beyond my technical understanding to say definitively (but since they're both digital formats in reality, there shouldn't be an issue if the decoders aren't botched in practice).


I just converted a 4x DSD file to PCM at 44.1 KHz/16 bit and it plays fine.  You need to use DSP studio to set the final output sample rate you want.  By default MC converts to 1/8th the original DSD sample rate, which for higher rate DSD can be a too high a PCM sample rate for most DACs to play.

FYI - Converting from DSD to PCM is a lossy conversion. And converting from one DSD rate to another goes through a PCM intermediate stage. It is not a direct DSD to DSD conversion and is a lossy conversion.
Title: Re: I can't convert my m4a files to flac.
Post by: Soundwave on March 21, 2021, 02:40:37 am
Ahh so thats why it can't do a direct conversion. Useful to know really.