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Networks and Remotes => Media Network => Topic started by: jmone on April 22, 2010, 06:10:24 pm
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4. NEW: Added new server 'WebPlay' for playback of a home library on an iPhone and other devices is its own feature. (no longer part of WebRemote like in build 30)
If anyone gets this working with WinMo please let me know! - the QuickTime web pages loads (that it) and the M3U playlist does not kick anything off and if I save it then try to run it manually WinMo complains there is no file association.....
Edit - apparantly the WinMo media player only supports ASF (streaming video), ASX (streaming audio). not M3U so off to find a 3rd party player!
FYI - I also tried the "...open in Web Browser" and when I "open" a M3U playlist it plays in MC but only if the source files are MP3. If it is in WMA Lossless or FLAC then MC give the "can not play the last several files message". I presume that coupled with a transcoding (or transocded STACK setting) at some point these will be fine.
Looks promising!
Thanks
Nathan
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So, I take it the WebPlay feature is designed primarily for audio? I tried it with my videos and none of them worked. I'm assuming that it doesn't transcode video on-the-fly (ala AirVideo), so we can only expect it to work with video that is already formatted properly. Is this correct or am I missing something?
How about audio? Is the plan for it to work with pretty much all filetypes that MC is configured to handle, or will it primarily work only with those that MC handles natively? I tried an MP3 and it worked, but I have other file types mixed in in my views. In other words, will it work for things like OGG and other stuff that is handled through DirectShow?
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If anyone gets this working with WinMo please let me know! - the QuickTime web pages loads (that it) and the M3U playlist does not kick anything off and if I save it then try to run it manually WinMo complains there is no file association.....
What if you play a single file after drilling all the way down in WebPlay? Try an MP3 first, although other formats will get converted.
This whole thing is a bit chaotic. iPhone needs QuickTime, WinMo needs ASX (and maybe more), and Android needs a custom application due to its broken M3U support.
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What if you play a single file after drilling all the way down in WebPlay? Try an MP3 first, although other formats will get converted.
This whole thing is a bit chaotic. iPhone needs QuickTime, WinMo needs ASX (and maybe more), and Android needs a custom application due to its broken M3U support.
This is all a great direction and a bit chaotic is fine for now! Very exciting for now! Yes - a single MP3 plays fine but the WinMo device downloads it first then plays it....
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.... a single MP3 plays fine but the WinMo device downloads it first then plays it....
A single WMA also works and is transcoded to MP3 but you lose Coverart where as native MP3 keep theirs.
I also installed "Plug Player" and while it can open up the M3U playlist I saved to the SD Card it complains about "connection failed"
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1) WebPlay and WebRemote aren't updating the logging area when you look at the DLNA section under the tree. Probably just haven't gotten that far yet, but it's hard to troubleshoot when nothing is getting displayed there after the server start and port info.
2) MC crashed when browsing the ALBUMS section of webplay on the Droid's browser.
This would logically have many more records to list than the genre or artist sections, so I'm not sure if the crash is caused by the number of records being loaded or if it's due to unicode characters in some of the album names.
3) Webplay home > Images > Albums displays music albums too!
Under "set rules for file display" on the albums view there was no default Media Type=Images filter. That filter did exist up a level on the Images view, but apparently wasn't being inherited from the parent view. These basic defaults should already be in there if it's not going to inherit from the parent.
4) So I added a Media Type filter to one of the viewschemes. I closed the browser tab that webplay was being used in. Reconnected to the webplay URL. Drilled down to that view again, but it's still showing audio albums and not being limited to images.
So, next I tried disabling the sharing by unchecking the library server checkbox. Clicked ok. Went back in and turned it back on. Reconnected to webplay in browser. Images only filter still not working in the album view.
Ok, let's try shutting down MC and restarting the whole program.
So now the browser and MC are both closed.
Started them both up again and try webplay.
Go to images > albums view.
No luck, it's still showing audio and ignoring the filter.
5) previously reported...UPnP logging area says server stopped if you go into the options window. It's not actually stopped.
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Couple of Web Remote bugs?
1) After pressing "Stop": If you press "Play / Pause" - A MC popup says "Nothing to Play"
2) Intalled the latest Version of Opera (10) and the format rendered nows seems to be Double Width looking making you pan Left / Right on the mobile to see the Library Tab (see screen shot from Desktop IE).
Thanks
Nathan
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Another potential WebRemote bug?
3) WinMo 6.5 returning from standby mode = WebRemote no longer works (need to restart browser) http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=56541.msg388527#msg388527
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i've tried some mp3's on me network..on my iphone..you guys are wonderful :)
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Jmone do we need to install quicktime? i got to the webplay screen chose an artist then a screen pops up saying click the play button below to start playback using quicktime on an iphone, itouch, iyuck and more. i'm not seeing the play button?
does this addon mean we can stream or files now to our phones when we are away from home? This is Starting To ROCK!!
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All we can do at this stage on WinMo phones is drill down then save/play a single MP3 file. It's very early days for WebPlay and the JR folk are looking at other "Streaming" options for platform (ASF/ASK). FYI there is no Quicktime player for WinMo.
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does this addon mean we can stream or files now to our phones when we are away from home? This is Starting To ROCK!!
Yes. It's intended to let you stream from a home server, maybe more later, but as jmone says, it's in a very early stage.
On each type of phone (iphone, Android, WinMo), the web app has to use an installed player to do the actual playback. That's why you see QuickTime being called. But on Android and WinMo, it will not be QT when we're finished.
Enjoy your bonfire tonight.
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Grrrr, KK... GF always gets to play before i do. she's exstatic bout it on her iphone. and now she has more ammo to use against me for not liking macs. lmao
Great to see its going this way i'm excited!
Any news on allowing us to rate songs from webremote?
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aww thanks for the reply jim. just an fyi.. after i installed newest version of jriver i grabbed her iphone for her and set it up\tested it and it worked flawlessly on her iphone. works great on my winmo too just as you said no way player for it as of yet. this is sooo cool!
THANK YOU!
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Edit: Coreplayer for WinMo works and streams M3U's perfectly. In WebPlay select, M3U --> Download --> Open and it will then play in Coreplayer.
Edit2: xtacbyme I see you are on their forum so you should be good to go for now. I can stream MP3 and WMA Lossless just fine. While Coreplayer will play a native FLAC file, I get a Unknown file format! (1060) when trying to stream it in the m3u file.
On each type of phone (iphone, Android, WinMo), the web app has to use an installed player to do the actual playback. That's why you see QuickTime being called. But on Android and WinMo, it will not be QT when we're finished
While this proves the existing WebPlay works with WinMo 6.5 and specilised players, I think a "native" solution for each platfrom (as Jim is hinting at) would be best!
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Where can i find istructions on how to setup web remote to work with my iphone?
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http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=56541.new;topicseen#new
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WebPlay and WebRemote features are really great. I can't wait for Android support for WebPlay. Here are a few early comments, I am sure some of them are already being implemented.
- Search, of course no brainer.
- View Scheme creation and sharing
I found it a little tedious that they require creation of new view schemes. I think we need a more unified way for creating and copying of view schemes so that we can share view schemes between MC main view, theater view, WebRemote, and WebPlayer. We should be able to at least copy view schemes between these categories.
- WebRemote abilities that closely mimic TheaterView.
i.e. including the ability to start NetFlix and Hulu. WebRemote +TheaterView is better than TheaterView+Remote because it allows changes of media without interrupting the current playing visual media.
- RemoteMC. Use MC client as a remote controller for the server.
The main idea is to use MC in client computer to control the server Computer. Basically, the client would access the MC library server as it is accessing now, but the play action will be realized on the media side, not on the client side. The effect would be similar to using VNC to access the main computer.
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Serving different content over multiple Ports.
I.e. I want to serve the whole library password protected on one port, while serving a few playlists as internet radio on another port. This can be achieved by running multiple instances of MC too but it is not clear how to direct those instances to different serving ports. I think we need a command prompt to run MC as a background server directed to a particular port. The port number should be specified in the command prompt.
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Tolga,
Thanks for the feedback. For remote control of the server, try connecting to Library Server, then choosing the zone under Playing Now called "There".
Jim
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Thanks Jim. I haven't noticed that feature before. I will try.
Just realized that WebPlay + Performance Store, if it works decently, may be a killer feature.
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Performer files (subscription at least) can't be streamed. We could do it, but we don't have permission. I may see if we can get it.
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I have absolutely no clue what im doing here.
- the webpage does not exist. Thats what it says on my phone when i plug it in.
- MC says i need to adjust my port forwarding on my router to allow access from the internet. How do i do that?
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I have absolutely no clue what im doing here.
- the webpage does not exist. Thats what it says on my phone when i plug it in.
- MC says i need to adjust my port forwarding on my router to allow access from the internet. How do i do that?
We'd need answers to a few things before anyone will be able to help you with that:
1) Make and model of your router.
2) IP address of the computer running Media Center.
3) The full URL that you're typing in on the phone's browser.
4)Does that URL work in the browser of the computer running Media Center?
5) Is the phone using your cell phone carrier's network or is it connected via wifi?
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ok I've asked elsewhere and nobody replied so I'll try here.
I've set up Webremote, I can open the page and view/play/add files on my laptop.. great BUT, when I access the Webremote on my Iphone I can browse my library but when I select play nothing plays? even though MC is open on my laptop.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Make sure you have the latest build from the top of this board.
Make sure that all 3 DLNA options are checked.
The next build (not publicly available yet) has a change that might affect this. It routes internal connections without going to the Internet and back.
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Make sure you have the latest build from the top of this board.
Make sure that all 3 DLNA options are checked.
The next build (not publicly available yet) has a change that might affect this. It routes internal connections without going to the Internet and back.
Done and Done, still not working.
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Where can i find istructions on how to setup web remote to work with my iphone?
Quick question, when Jim told me about WebRemote, I first thought it was an app for the iPhone....when I try web remote on my other PCs it works, but Safari on my iPhone won't open the page.
Can someone just clarify that an iPhone should be able to use the html WebRemote so I can continue troubleshooting.
thanks
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Try build 138 from the top of this page.
WebRemote should work on the iPhone.
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thanks, I just rebuilt a new HTPC as a client to a master and will start digging into WebRemote & WebPlay.
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webremote and webplay work on the iphone here with no problems.
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webremote and webplay work on the iphone here with no problems.
I can do everything in webremote except add/play?
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only prob we seem to have is if we choose artists or albums. the jriver server seems to lock up for some reason, but i think thats due to the early development and using old version 35. yet to upgrade been to busy.
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only prob we seem to have is if we choose artists or albums. the jriver server seems to lock up for some reason, but i think thats due to the early development and using old version 35. yet to upgrade been to busy.
The number of artists and albums may just take longer. You could split them alphabetically. A-D, etc.
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ive noticed that jim, sometimes it will load it but majority of times on server pc i notice i get a error message jriver has stopped working. so i restart jriver then it will work. but i think on my end it maybe due to artists and albums being a utter mess. meaning multiple artists listed totalling like 20,000 when in all actuallity theres maybe 8-10,000, due to the feat. artist.
for testing purposes.. what do you mean by splitting them A-D.. how do i accomplish this?
thanx
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Look for "grouping" in the lower left corner of the attached picture.
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thats what that is for! awesome thanks will try that. and see if it changes anything on our phones
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webremote and webplay work on the iphone here with no problems.
I can't get my iPhone to use WebRemote or WebPlay.
I get a message saying the "desired page is automatically loading"...just hangs there attempting to connect to the same location/port that I can successfully use library server with on two other PCs besides my master.
Port is also forwarded and server registered with JRiver.
I took screenshots of the network logs and iPhone screenshots if needed.
hifi
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Just thought I'd report... I've had no troubles with it.
Perhaps a reminder... I DID have to open the port on the Windows Firewall on the computer running MC for it to work.
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My htc hd2 with coreplayer worked fine with Webplay build .38. Now unable to play more than 1 second at a time Am I alone in experiecing this with Webplay & Winmo 6.5 on post-.38 builds?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Tony
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Tony I've also an HD2 - There are still lots of changes being made to WebPlay and I'm seeing some odd stuff as well. Out of interest what format are you original music tracks in?
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tony, are your music files mp3's?
i bought coreplayer.. and am not fond of it at all... have your tried it with pocket player or any other player for the htc hd2? any luck? if so could you let me know how to set it up on the htc please?
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correction.. i suppose i should try things before i jump on a comment. oh i feel like an idiot!
it does work in pocket player :)
Jmone. ive yet to try the wifi http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6529843#post6529843 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6529843#post6529843) due to having questions ive yet to get an answer for in regards to that code they wrote.
Now after using pocketplayer when my phone goes to sleep mode the music stops playing, is this due to the wifi fix above? when i unlock phone and hit play again it does continue playing though and doesnt loose connection totally. Which is nice:) But i'd love for the screen to shut off and still play the music in background, any ideas?
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I use the same toggle to keep WiFi active. What I find is:
1) If you press the OFF button it stops playback as the player is suspended
2) If you press "lock" or just let the screen turn off on it's own (eg I've got mine as Dim in "30 Sec" and Off in "1 Min") then the music keeps playing fine
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Jmone.. did you use just the .cab? or did you use that code they speak of? if so where does that code go?
thanks :)
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Here you go:
1) unpack the attached zip
2) copy the CAB and the two mscr files to the HD2
3) installed the CAB
Now when you click onteh two mscr you can either check the status or toggle the wifi standby setting.
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thanks :)
YOU ROCK :)
but doesnt work :0... i tried my pocket player with files on the phone and it died too.. so then i thought hmm pocketshield. went into pocket shield and under locking they have an option for exceptions for PROGRAMS.. i reboot and then pocket player played or 5 minutes when sleeping with no issues. then i tried webplay again. and after being asleep for 30 seconds sound stopped, then hiccupped then stopped for good. i've yet to test but am betting its pocket shield shutting down the whole reg\phone thats not an exception to preserve battery life - killing the wifi fix ya sent me. I will see later tonight if i can disable it without uninstalling to test it.
Thanks again nathan.. i'll be back to keep ya posted.
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I GOT IT:)
user error. But i dont feel to aweful.. ive asked 6 people this one question... what does, wifi standby is enabled.
and they all said...likely means wifi would remain available when pc is in standby mode
which is wrong. i tried for about an hour disabled pocket shield, then said hmm lets try wifi standby is disabled. and walaaa, then i renabled pocketshield and all systems ago :)
now i just have to change the icon for it to something more appealing:D
thanks Nathan. and thanks JRiver AGAIN for this AWESOME ADDON!
nathan u using opera 10? you find a fix for the blownup view? in opera 10 ive chosen mobile view. but the interface for jriver is still very enlarged past the size of the screen and moves with my finger, so its not to neat yet.
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nathan u using opera 10? you find a fix for the blownup view?
Yes - I'm using both Opera 10 and like you it's too wide for a single col view. I've posted about it but I don't think it is high on JR's list of mods just yet!
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awww ok.. well i did notice when i connect now there offering a android app for android users.. maybe we'll be next :D
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Good to see this thread active again. Webplay has the potential to be awesome
Thanks for the replies. Will try pocketplayer and report back.
Some additional info.
File formats: mp3 flac ape
Webplay file conversion: for unsupported formats
Problem occurs on G3 and WiFi.
Opera10
MC build .46
Tony
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any of you guys gotten video to work?
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Nope
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ya know i was thinking..being jriver made a android app, they will be making a winmo one as well.(hoping) think they could use that code for keeping wifi on, on our device? build that code right into the app for winmo device? or would that be running into legal issues? we could maybe ask dede for permission?
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I seem to have WebRemote working on my iPhone.
But how does when control a client connected to the Master via Library Server?
I don't see any There zones when connected via LAN.
Do I have to configure the client to use DLNA etc. and I will be able to control that instance even though it is running a served library?
thanks
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Hi
Pocktplayer does not respond. This is very dissapointing. WebPlay no longer plays on hd2. I hope JRiver deilvers a stable solution soon.
Tony
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work for me on newest version. htc hd2 with pocktplayer
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Hi
Pocktplayer does not respond. This is very dissapointing. WebPlay no longer plays on hd2. I hope JRiver deilvers a stable solution soon.
Tony
Perhaps the viewscheme presented via the DLNA service contains too many records for the bandwidth available.
How about restrict it to audio only and one specific artist only? Then report back if it fails to respond with even that small amount of data.
Also you might want to report what it's showing in the server status display window. Might provide some insight to the staff about what's going on.
From what there is to work with here, we don't even know if it's connecting or not, let along where in the process it's failing. Help the staff help you by providing details.
Not being snarky, just trying to get you on a path to quicker resolution.
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Hi
Pocktplayer does not respond. This is very dissapointing. WebPlay no longer plays on hd2. I hope JRiver deilvers a stable solution soon.
Tony
Tony the JR folk are actively working on WinMo support but there are a few issues to sort out. At present I can confirm that you can play MP3's to Coreplayer (in a M3U playlist) on WinMo 6.5, HTC2. There are currently some issues trying to transcode non-MP3 (some convert, some don't) and at this stage I'm not getting any joy with WMP either.
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I'm using the WebRemote on my Android phone and it works fine for playback of music on my htpc (mp3 files) but it doesn't seem polished or practical to use since I have such a large mp3 library. I have over 10K songs and when I click a subfolder from my phone it tries to rendor every album or every song or every artist I have in that folder. It takes like 5 minutes to try to rendor a web page with 100's thumbnails of album art or artists and especially 10K individual songs. Is there a way to configure how the page displays/rendors on my cell phone so it's a little more user friendly to navigate & use. For example set the limit to how many albums are rendored to the page to may 20, or how many songs are rendored to the page like 50? It just seems to me that trying to rendor everything within the music folder is not a very user friendly design. That shouldn't be something I should even have to configure or at least the default should be set to a small or a reasonable number.
Can anyone help me with this one.
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just got back from my first stroll outside the home network. only complaint i have is.... JRiver can ya call up qwest for me in minneapolis and ask em why the heck there slow in raising my upload speeds? Thanks ;D
works great though :) when i chose to play my dance mix about 1800 songs, the file was 3.5mb and took about 25-40 seconds to load.... grrr now i have my toy and i'm limited to 800 up :(
i def won't be able to stream my movies with that speed. but once they up it.. i'll be switching my plan :)
thanks so much!!!!!
5 star ratings? :P
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Is there a way to configure how the page displays/rendors on my cell phone so it's a little more user friendly to navigate & use. For example set the limit to how many albums are rendored to the page to may 20, or how many songs are rendored to the page like 50?
Tools > Options > Network > Library Server > WebRemote > Customize Views > Set Rules for File Display.
Filter out certain genres or stuff you don't need remotely.
Works just like setting up viewschemes.
Group items like Artists A-C, D-F, etc. so smaller groups of records are retrieved at a time.
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You can customize a view to divide it by letters, A-D, E-G, and so on.
You could also browse by genre to limit the number.
We're still working on it.
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Apologies for the short (terse?) post earlier.
As I said previously, on a good 3G signal or Wifi connection my hd2 loaded with Coreplayer was happily playing mp3, ape and flac sources via Webplay on MC build .38. However, the hd2/Coreplayer now plays only mp3 sources. Coreplayer struggles to play converted sources such as flac. The .m3u file downloads onto the hd2 and Coreplayer opens but I get only intermittent 1 second bursts of audio. Others have sugested Pocketplayer but after downloading the .m3u file Pocketplayer fails to launch.
zxsix and jmone - Thanks you for your helpful replies. I guess I will just have to be patient. I'm sure jriver will delivers the goods for Winmo devices eventually.
Tony
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zxsix and jmone - Thanks you for your helpful replies. I guess I will just have to be patient. I'm sure jriver will delivers the goods for Winmo devices eventually.
In another thread they indicated that WinMo will be getting some attention next week.
Wouldn't hurt to provide them with a log file before them if it shows anything interesting.
I'm not sure how much logging they've built into the area yet since it's so new.
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I have a Motorola Droid that I cannot get to use Webplay on any of the browsers that I've downloaded onto my phone. Famu97... which browser are you using (and which phone do you have)? All I get are google search results with no connection to my server. My router and firewall are both ok - I can use Webplay from my laptop.
Any suggestions?!
Thanks!
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If you're getting search insted of connecting to your server, the address may be wrong. The standard browser works for me on a Google Nexus. The other possibility is that the router isn't allowing it.
Make sure you are using the latest build from the top of the MC15 board.
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Motorola Droid with stock browser works fine.
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Motorola Droid with stock browser works fine.
Yes, same here.
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Thanks for the replies. I obviously don't have my router set up correctly - I can connect using Webplay to my htpc server through my network using my desktop but when I tried to connect from my wife's work... nothing.
I'll mess around with it again - I've got a D-Link DIR-615 if anyone has some more suggestions.
By the way... I love this forum. I might not post a lot but the information I get from all of you is priceless!
Thanks again.
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Nice of you to say so. Thanks.
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Bobalou044... is it possible your ip is changing?
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No, I have the ip address locked via the router - I'm also going to check my firewall settings. That could also be a source of my problem... hopefully some headway can be made tonight, but it's getting late. :-[
UPDATE: It was my settings for the firewall (Zonealarm) that was messed up! Just started working on my Moto Droid - I'll check to see how the connection is at work tomorrow!
Thanks guys! As usual JRiver MC is awesome... well worth the looks that my wife gives me when I'm tinkering around with my htpc!! ;D
Only thing left is TV!
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WebPlay still not working on a HD2 winmo phone in .48. I do get the M3U to the phone and TCPMP says it plays, ie timer advancing, but no sound, or just noise. Tried all sorts of settings, but no luck. Any suggestions ?
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Wait a few builds. MC's WinMo support still needs work.
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Any screenshots (wiki) of what we should see on an iPhone.
I can stream audio but I have a gray Quicktime screen with no cover art, no title, no metadata of any kind.
Just need a clarification on iPhone capabilities with WebPlay etc.
thanks
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HIFI.. my gf's iphone works great... but like you when doing webplay no cover arts on her iphone.
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Wait a few builds. MC's WinMo support still needs work.
Thanks Jim, I can wait. It was really promising when it worked. Keep up the good work !
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Small issue I've encountered with WebPlay using the Android app:
Changing the orientation of the phone between portrait/landscape stops playback and seems to reload the playlist.
Otherwise it all seems to work quite well, and I am loving the progress we're seeing on the mobile features.
(HTC Desire on 2.1)
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15.0.49 or above will provide a graphical look for our Gizmo application on Android. Run Webplay on the phone, install Gizmo, then return to Webplay to select music. This is still a work in progress.
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I've connected to the webplay page on my IPhone locally and online, but when I click to play something, there's no audio. Any suggestions on that? Thanks.
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I've connected to the webplay page on my IPhone locally and online, but when I click to play something, there's no audio. Any suggestions on that? Thanks.
Make sure you have build 15.0.49 (or newer installed).
It should launch the QuickTime player on the phone when you play.
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Wait a few builds. MC's WinMo support still needs work.
Works again on HD2 with tcpmp. Brilliant ! Thanks.
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you guys planning on a winmo app like the android?
thanks
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you guys planning on a winmo app like the android?
thanks
+1 on this one.... I had a play with PlugPlayer on the sons iPhone and it is just a great little app.....now if we had something like that for WinMo (I find the current options of WMP, CorePlayer, Pocket Player etc are not that stunning....)
xtacbyme, I say you posts over at CorePlayer & Pocket Player, did you get any answers on when their updates are ever comming out?
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nope. only reply is there working on it, they will not say what it will support what the features will be, or when the release will be.
Jmone what your opinion or best best player asthetically?
mine is pocket player by far. the core is just terrible, personally 29.00 wasted.
now pocket i'd pay the 20 if they would just open up support for the same filetypes as core.
anywho thats why i asked if there will be app.. cause now that jriver has made webplay\webremote i'll be basically streaming everything unless i loose data connection. but then again like jriver software for pc it would be nice to incorporate jriver into pocketplayer, making it like jriver the all in one cell player.
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Hey guys,
So I'm trying to get WebPlay to work on my iphone over 3G. It works fine on my home network wi-fi, but I'm unable to get it to work outside the house. Port 52199 is forwarded on my router, and the server is registered with j. river. In the log, it shows the attempts (ssdp request for service, etc.) but the server always times out on the phone. Any ideas?
Thanks,
craw
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When you make a connection from outside your network, you connect to the outside IP address of the router. You can use a service to find it. From your home machine, go to this address:
http://www.whatsmyip.org/
After that, router forwarding should go to the machine MC is running on.
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Thanks, Jim--works great! Much appreciated...
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nope. only reply is there working on it, they will not say what it will support what the features will be, or when the release will be.
Jmone what your opinion or best best player asthetically?
mine is pocket player by far. the core is just terrible, personally 29.00 wasted.
now pocket i'd pay the 20 if they would just open up support for the same filetypes as core.
anywho thats why i asked if there will be app.. cause now that jriver has made webplay\webremote i'll be basically streaming everything unless i loose data connection. but then again like jriver software for pc it would be nice to incorporate jriver into pocketplayer, making it like jriver the all in one cell player.
I don't like any of them at present (too many issues with all of them). I like the simple IF that you get with PlugPlayer on the iPhone as I want a simple IF that you can browse and play from. I don't mind if the tracks are passed to another player to just "play" them so WebPlay is OK but it just does not work with WinMo at the moment for me.
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hmmm today i went into webplay and choose ratings 5 then genre, dance, and chose to shuffle all my dance about 1500 songs, its worked flawlessly until today no update today either.... when i chose dance it downloads a asx file only 234 kb.( it use to download a 2.5 MB file for dance music) then it opens in pocket player but only plays ONE song.... any ideas whats happened?
thanks
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Webplay restored! ;D Thanks JRiver Looking forward to future Webplay developments.
Coreplayer/Webplay playing all audio sources in response to "open" download.
The evaluation version of PocketPlayer will only play if I save the .m3u file. I can't get Pocketplayer to accept .m3u as a file association in the options
Very happy to persevere with Coreplayer pending developments.
Excellent thread!!
Tony
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Thank you JRiver for Webplay!! ... I predicted it some time ago ...
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=48630.msg333223#msg333223 ...,
but it would seem that such features do take time for standards to settle into place, as well for the time+$$ and all the work.
This summer I'm stuck with the decision for another PDA, and I'm still stuck with the very expensive decision ... will it be the new iPhone or Android?? ?
Thank you again for Media Center!! :-*
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Thanks shAf! If it makes a difference, our development efforts will be spent more on the Android side, where we feel welcome.
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That woulda been nice to know within the 14 day return time for tmobile.
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FYI - Here is the Garnter 2009 sales figures for the SmartPhone market (as apposed to units in circulation) but you get the idea.
Thanks shAf! If it makes a difference, our development efforts will be spent more on the Android side, where we feel welcome.
If you want a nice big WinMo hug will that help?
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Affection will buy you a lot of things, but I'm not selling, thanks in any case.
2009 is a long time ago.
Matt has a Google phone. I have a Google phone. I bet you can add. Android is an uninhabited niche for us.
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will there be any support what so ever for us winmo users? i'm really hoping so, and so are alot of my friends who use winmo
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Probably.
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Great News.. Thanks
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2009 is a long time ago.
5 months is an age in computing.....The only later ones I can find is "apparently" Gartners Q1 2010 figures (below) - about the same except it shows the rise of Android's recent sales. Both of these are misleading anyway as you would be looking at the installed base out there (as apposed to a full year 2009 and Q1 2010 sales) - and it is big for any of the OS.
Matt has a Google phone. I have a Google phone. I bet you can add.
Sorry forgot the "JR Quotant" ;D
Probably
Thanks!
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Great timing!!! I have been looking for something like this so I cna use my nifty new phone to access my Music at Home!!
I notice Gizmo status a Java IllegalState Exception quite often.... ??
Also seems like if signal is lost.. and regained, it restarts all over, as oposed to startign where it left off..? (Maybe this is just because of the way the music is streaming.... but seems liek it woudl get annoyign after a while...
Would also be nice if Gizmo told me which song it was playing in the list of songs in the play list...?
Are there plans for Gizmo to display this info, possibly along with AlbumArt?
So far, I haven't been able to get it to play for than about 3 tracks then it stops.. :(
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Thanks shAf! If it makes a difference, our development efforts will be spent more on the Android side, where we feel welcome.
Another reason to be happy about my new EVO. my 4G seems to cap at 2.3 Mbps or so, which is a bit of a letdown, but better than .8 :)
WebPlay took me a while to get working, but it is excellent.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57910.msg393307#msg393307
I'm really looking forward to your efforts in this area.
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Having recently bought into iPhones and more recently ipads i've a question about Webremote. I perfectly understand the effort around Android. But webremote seems the perfect solution for controlling MC and one many of us have been waiting for years. I trace my ownership back to Version 10 and I'm happy buying the upgrades to support further development.
I just hope you don't give up on us poor apple owners :-)
Anyhow to my question. Anyone doing any work around 'skins' for webremote. I guess it's just HTML.
Regards and that's for a brilliant product
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yawn.... "poor apple users" My gf has a iphone and its been working 50-60 % better then my winmo device. apple schmapple. i been here since ver.9, had an htc smartphone way before apple thought of making a phone
so please give full support to winmo!
apple, blackberry,android, webos users... how bout just make it fair and stable for all the platforms, so every one gets a delicious bite of the pie.
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Can the team indicate whether a search facility will be available as part of webremote soon? Alternatively, an alphanumeric sidebar which will let me skip to a band name or album etc would be a great feature which will make webremote so much more usable!
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Dear Gentlemen, when I use the Webplay function in my iphone/quicktime, all my lossless .wav files were automatically transcoded to mp3 down to the phone. Is it possible to bypass the transcoding process so that the .wav files can be directly streamed to the player??
I already did the following config in MC15:
Network --> Library Server Client --> Conversion:Don't convert audio / Encoder: Uncompresed stream
Thanks in advance!
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... Anyone doing any work around 'skins' for webremote. I guess it's just HTML.
The various HTML page templates for WebPlay are in C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 15\Data\WebRemote\Default on your music server (and also in the companion WebRemote dir). Just edit the default.css file to change the basic rendering of the served pages. For example, the default body background color is given as #CCCCCC, which you can change to a different color or even to an image. The folks at nodethirtythree.com who provided this skin have some related samples you can get extension ideas from at http://nodethirtythree.com/free_templates.html. These are not direct replacements for the default WebRemote layout, but you can probably rewire the CSS files for those templates into WebRemote. I'm happy enough with the default theme, but this info gives you the "key to the kingdom" for reskinning on your own time.
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Love Webplay!... use it around the house via my laptop and Android phone (Moto Droid) through my LAN; but my issue is still not being able to access my library from outside my network. The firewall on the server end is configured correctly (Zonealarm), so I'm thinkin' it's the router (a DLink 615). I have the virtual server set with port 52199 and port forwarding set with range 52100 - 52199, but I still cannot get a connection when I'm, say, at work.
Any tips or ideas that I might be overlooking would be a big help!
Thanks in advance guys for your help.
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Love Webplay!... use it around the house via my laptop and Android phone (Moto Droid) through my LAN; but my issue is still not being able to access my library from outside my network. The firewall on the server end is configured correctly (Zonealarm), so I'm thinkin' it's the router (a DLink 615). I have the virtual server set with port 52199 and port forwarding set with range 52100 - 52199, but I still cannot get a connection when I'm, say, at work.
Any tips or ideas that I might be overlooking would be a big help!
Thanks in advance guys for your help.
From outside the network, you need to use the "outside" address of your modem. Go to http://www.whatsmyip.org to see it.
Under MC Options for MediaNetwork, there is a "Test" feature. It uses our server to test the connection from outside.
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Thanks Jim! I'll give that a try when I get back home. I know that I used the 192.168.x.xxx address for the router - that must be the LAN address then?
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Right. More here (http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/Network_Access).
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WebPlay is working with .170 (to iPhone & iPad) but what about cover art? It shows up in Playlists, Albums, etc as thumbnails, but no cover Art during playback.
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With the better support for video I've been trying webplay with a few of my friends' devices - an Android phone and an iPad. It works great for music, but video doesn't work. Neither of the devices supports Flash. Is that a requirement for video? I couldn't find any mention of it in the Wiki or anywhere else.
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Flash is required for video, and Apple thinks Flash is a bad idea.
But it will work on Android if you install Flash. Search the Market on the phone.
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Thanks, Jim. The Android phone I was trying to use doesn't support flash. It is a known issue with the phone and is related to the CPU/processor being used.
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Thanks, Jim. The Android phone I was trying to use doesn't support flash. It is a known issue with the phone and is related to the CPU/processor being used.
My favorite remote is the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=66117.0). I have both the 7 inch and the 10 inch Tab. They have two sizes coming that should be interesting. Something like 7.7" and 8.9".
I usually don't turn on a monitor to play music now. I just use a Tab. It's quick and uses less power.
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Flash is required for video, and Apple thinks Flash is a bad idea.
But it will work on Android if you install Flash. Search the Market on the phone.
I've been looking around trying to find if Webplay for video is actually supposed to work for the Iphone, and this is the closest statement I've found.
If I understand this right, video doesn't work for the iphone because of lack of flash, and there's no intention to have JRiver automatically transcode to some more universal streaming format (youtube/quicktime/whatever).
Is that right, no webplay-video for iphone?
Thanks...