INTERACT FORUM
Devices => Sound Cards, DAC's, Receivers, Speakers, and Headphones => Topic started by: Hilton on November 25, 2020, 04:27:15 am
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I ordered some Lawton Chambers today for my Fostex TH610.. Will be interesting to see the difference in the sound from the different wood hardness / reverberation characteristics. The chambers are a fair bit bigger too.
Should arrive by Friday.
Wild Ziricote
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50589785938_26b1e5b1dc_o.jpg)Wild Ziricote (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2k5rSQA') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50590648937_4e009a706a_o.jpg)Wild Chechen (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2k5winT') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Flame Marbled Walnut
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50590648952_9abc634008_o.jpg)Flame Marbled Walnut (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2k5wio9') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50590648992_a2eca7b26a_o.jpg)Black Limba (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2k5wioQ') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583508981_677b2ecd22_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h2abAz)2pin2mmcx-th610 (https://flic.kr/p/2h2abAz) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Just doing some more research before they get here.
Will also do testing with minidsp Ears... Not just frequency response but also decay/reverb tests.
Janka Hardness in pounds-force -
Walnut 1010 lbf (stock TH610 cups)
Zelkova Serratta 1040 lbf (Sony R10 Cups - just for comparison)
Wild Ziricote 1970 / 2200 lbf
Wild Chechen 2250 / 2300 lbf
Flame Marbled Walnut 1010 lbf
Black Limba 490 /840 lbf
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They do look good!
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Santa came early!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722163291_08b1d25e5a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9m1K)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9m1K) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721426653_f4e5e4dd87_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5z36)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5z36) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote - Wild Chechen - Black Limba - Flame Marbled Walnut
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721425818_0e3aed0273_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5yMG)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5yMG) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721425393_41aa20c859_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5yEn)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5yEn) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722161436_891b7743fc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9ksL)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9ksL) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721424543_1265be8a34_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5ypH)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5ypH) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722249907_03f87a5aeb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9ML8)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9ML8) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722249287_a48cb744bc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Mzr)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Mzr) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722159841_2f06e79675_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9jZg)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9jZg) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721423078_fca7ce55f4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5xYs)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5xYs) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722247112_9b7537e237_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LVW)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LVW) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721421733_bf4a26beac_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5xzg)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5xzg) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722246702_42772c3a12_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LNS)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LNS) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722245767_46ec1414a2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LwK)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9LwK) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722245627_f9e541246e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Luk)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Luk) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722156951_d30f8a41b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9j8r)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9j8r) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722244442_60f803198a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9L8U)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9L8U) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721419438_f96f9cf918_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5wTG)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5wTG) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722244022_9ceb2a20ef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9L1E)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9L1E) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722242207_64febb2f98_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Ktn)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh9Ktn) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721416723_043a77276a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5w5T)TH610 Lawton Wild Chechen cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh5w5T) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Time to listen!!!!!!
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Initial impressions of Wild Chechen...
Definitely fatter sub bass at 30-50hz and fuller bass around 80hz.
Still tight and fast sounding, not much difference in midrange and treble detected.
hmmmm. might have fixed the occassional sibilance around 6-8k! More listening required....
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Just WOW WOW WOW... amazing in every way....
The fit and finish is spectacular!
The sound seems tighter but also deeper and fatter and also smoother in the upper midrage and lower treble where the stock TH610's have a tendancy to be siblant on some brightly recorded tracks.
The sparkle, air, separation, width and staging is there and even sweeter since the edge has been just so slightly taken away at around 5-6k.
Im my opinion this has made the TH610 the perfect headphones with the Wild Chechen. Not sure how I'm going to go with the others since this has spoilt me now I think!
The bass is just sooo good, just sounds like a really good fat dynamic and fast kick that you get in a good live gig in a small/medium room with warm and tight bass from bass guitar.
Listening to everything from Glitterbox EDM night club stuff, to Steely Dan Gaucho, Tracy Chapman Baby Can I Hold You - nice bass.. Super Tramp Still in Love...
And Hoff Ensemble - Polarity... WOW - feels like im in the room with that beautiful double bass and Piano!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50722610531_1389c88a52_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khbCXM)Hoff Ensemble - Polarity (https://flic.kr/p/2khbCXM) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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YUM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50721951603_631e3e2f0f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kh8g5X)Wild Chechen TH610 Lawton Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kh8g5X) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Youtube video of Wild Chechen to Black Limba change over inbound... ;)
Black Limba only a subtle difference in sound so far but definitely a little warmer sounding in the 70- 120hz region... No sign of sibilance. :)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50725625251_ea530439e6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khs68H)Lawton Black Limba TH610 (https://flic.kr/p/2khs68H) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50724892698_583155048e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khoknu)Lawton Black Limba TH610 (https://flic.kr/p/2khoknu) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Youtube video of Wild Chechen to Black Limba Lawton Chamber Changeover on TH610.
1080p is up - 4K is up!
https://youtu.be/_y4hTXDa0PU (https://youtu.be/_y4hTXDa0PU)
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They look absolutely beautiful!
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They look absolutely beautiful!
Thanks they certainly are!
Just some insight to the cup design from Mark - I'm sure he wont mind me sharing his thoughts on my question... How did you decide on the size of the cups??? to which he replied.. (that I agree with completely)
"Myself, I feel one can only obtain just so much info from measurements, the real test is listening.
Rather than just making a copy of the original cups, we wanted to make as many improvements as possible to the design.
Cups serve a purpose, acting as a combination of speaker cabinet and body of a musical instrument.
If you treat them seriously this way, you can get a lot more out of the headphone itself.
We are on the second generation of our cups, original versions (2008-2011) were also deeper than stock cups and were an excellent upgrade.
Ultimately, with some very sophisticated new equipment providing almost total control, we were able to do everything we ever wanted in terms of perfecting the shape inside and out, getting wall thicknesses to taper just right, etc.
Development of the current generation was extended, many forms/shapes were tried before we reached the shape you now see.
I may be in minority, but I genuinely prefer closed to open headphones, all other things being equal.
But the catch always is reduction of soundstage size and a bit of a reverberant “sea shell” effect.
Bigger cups with correct internal volume and shape really help push the soundstage out.
We use a small piece of acoustic foam inside the cups which helps prevent some of the internal reflections which also helps the enclosure disappear a bit.
Customers are constantly surprised at what a difference cups can make.
Enjoy!
Mark Lawton"
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Wild Ziricote Type 5 Lawton Cup..... VERY different
Much less bass overall and what's there is super tight and extends low. More forward mid range and top end - much more vocal oriented. No sharpness in treble but definitely brighter but not too bright.
So far favourites are Wild Chechen (Type 4) followed by Black Limba (Type 1). Black Limba was much much warmer and fuller sounding. More listening to be done!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50732834691_dfe9f0778c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ki63fp)TH610_Wild_Ziricote_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2ki63fp) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50732932027_6e644d6c70_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ki6xbB)TH610_Wild_Ziricote_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2ki6xbB) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50732933282_58508a064e_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ki6xyf)TH610_Wild_Ziricote_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2ki6xyf) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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TH610 swapped over to Flame Marble Walnut Lawton Cups..
Ahhh thats better - a bit of warmth has come back as well as punch and depth to the bass. Very nice.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50735075146_67c1aa86da_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kihwfW)TH610_Flame_Marble_Walnut_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kihwfW) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50734343253_e026788261_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kidLG6)TH610_Flame_Marble_Walnut_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kidLG6) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50734343238_73e116179c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kidLFQ)TH610_Flame_Marble_Walnut_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kidLFQ) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50735180152_c2da6075c4_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kii4to)TH610_Flame_Marble_Walnut_Lawton_Cups (https://flic.kr/p/2kii4to) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Stock TH610 Walnut Cups - 1.4oz / 41grams - Type 1 - Janka Hardness 1010
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738006188_6a930f8bb4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxy9)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxy9) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738741276_1e5ae76bb8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBj55)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBj55) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Lawton Black Limba Cups - 2.3oz / 65grams - Type 1 - Janka Hardness 490 > 840
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738849447_9ea5e4e7ed_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSe6)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSe6) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738849412_e99b2c9dd6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSdu)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSdu) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Lawton Flame Marbled Walnut - 2.4oz / 69grams - Type 1 - Janka Hardness 1010
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738849317_7a661eb332_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSbR)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSbR) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738741036_53f9914c5b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBiZW)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBiZW) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Lawton Wild Chechen - 3.4oz / 95grams - Type 4 - Janka Hardness 2250 > 2300
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738005868_bafaa6ff81_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxsC)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxsC) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738849282_0253f87594_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSbf)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBSbf) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Lawton Wild Ziricote - 4.1oz / 115grams - Type 5 - Janka Hardness 1970 > 2200
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738849147_aa4df28012_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBS8V)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kiBS8V) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50738005873_7ebd1058ea_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxsH)LAWTON_Cup_Weights (https://flic.kr/p/2kixxsH) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Wild Chechen Type 4 definitely my favourite overall for refinement and versatility.
Tighter bass that extends low, still has good impact and force and a nice timbre and not boomy.
Sweet top end that shimmers but doesnt bite and still extends nicely.
Mid range is forward and full but not in your face.
Just my perfect kinda headphones!
Was listening back to back with Flame Marbled Walnut / Wild Chechen and the Walnut has a nice warmth but with double bass in Jazz it can be a little fuzzy sounding, while the Wild Chechen just sounds natural and full with great impact and articulation with just the right amount of warmth.
(Diana Krall - Look of Love & also Jeff Hamilton Treo - Live from San Pedro)
The walnut is great with dance and rock and just about everything else but the Wild Chechen has got me. :)
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I've been using the Black Limba all day today and am really enjoying them.
Something I've noticed is the treble and upper midrange is slightly more gentle on the Black Limba. The Wild Chechen has a slightly harder edge to it so the Black Limba is very nice and punchy and warm but without the edgyness.
(https://i.imgur.com/FNVqOCO.png)
https://tidal.com/browse/track/91916863
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50724892698_b1ed95d766_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khoknu)Lawton Black Limba TH610 (https://flic.kr/p/2khoknu) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Wife bought me Omega Headphone Stand for Birthday! Very Nice!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50785902792_28c97b40b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2knM2xE)New Stand (https://flic.kr/p/2knM2xE) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Bought an iFi iDSD Signature to use around the house.
These cans definitely benefit from having at least 1000mw driving them that’s for sure. 4100mw on tap, more than enough!
More snap, punch and control and less distortion is really noticeable. Can listen much much louder than I should be because they sound so clear. If anyone is thinking of changing their cans maybe buy a decent higher end amp if you’ve got an entry level Amp. I wouldn’t call RME ADI-2 I have as entry level mind you, but headphone amp stage is a little light on compared to this beast. The ifi has really woken them up.
Only get upto 96k with a chromecast but that’s good enough for 90% of my music.
Have a small battery pack powering the chromecast. Nice to have something a bit easier to move around the house than the RME. I can’t believe how much better it sounds than the fiio Q5S tc with the THX amp. I also checked out the ifi diablo and it was a little less warmer (cooler sounding) than the signature but otherwise very similar.
This is the best I've been able to come up with using the bits I had in my collection to make the ifi iDSD Signature tether free from the phone or tablet.
It's even pocketable in my shorts without any trouble so I can walk around the house untethered to my phone.
Couple right angle mini TOSLINKs to take pressure off the connections and a mini battery pack strapped on with short TOSLINK cable.
Can probably make it even more compact with some custom cables and enclosure for the chromecast. Still pretty happy to have some mobility with the stuff I had laying around.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50964917836_1f08b81792_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDAwtW)iFi iDSD Signature Chromcast Audio TOSLINK (https://flic.kr/p/2kDAwtW) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50965021932_9865557666_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDB4qG)iFi iDSD Signature Chromcast Audio TOSLINK (https://flic.kr/p/2kDB4qG) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50964206598_e61a4f6f0e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDwT4d)iFi iDSD Signature Chromcast Audio TOSLINK (https://flic.kr/p/2kDwT4d) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50964206593_6e50acea2a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDwT48)iFi iDSD Signature Chromcast Audio TOSLINK (https://flic.kr/p/2kDwT48) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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The Bass in God is a Woman (Ariana Grande), Dancing With a Stranger (Sam Smith) and Magic (Kylie Minogue) .....are.... SUBLIME with the Black Limba's and the iFi iDSD on normal gain @ 1 o'clock on the volume dial! This is how POP music should sound. MAGIC. :yum Loud in yer face and thumping.
That's where type 1 or 2 woods truly rock! Type 4 Wild Chechen can't compete with the kick, power and warmth of the Type 1 Black Limba where you just wanna feel da bass... and that's without flicking the xBass or 3D switch on the Amp. Type 4 with the xBass come close to the Type 1 but still lacking a little warmth. They are still great though for rock or more complex music, or Jazz where you need a little more articulation in the bass.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50972487151_0ef6f7a8a1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kEgjzn)iFi iDSD Signature - TH610 Lawton Black Limba (https://flic.kr/p/2kEgjzn) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Intimacy of Wild Chechen with Hoff Ensemble - Polarity..
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50957908153_9a565008fa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kCYAKk)iFi micro iDSD Signature TH610 (https://flic.kr/p/2kCYAKk) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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The portable rig....
iFi iDSD Signature
Note 20 ultra
iPad Mini v5
Brydge 7.9 Wireless keyboard
Shutter Remote BT Remote
Fostex TH610 w/ Lawton Chambers (or Campfire Audio Andromeda's)
ALO Litz Pure Silver 4.4 pentacon cable (mmcx to 2pin adapters)
Aviator crumbled satchel
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51011722538_6a92a140d9_b.jpg)iFi iDSD portable rig (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2kHJpTy') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51011722558_54255e4db3_b.jpg)iFi iDSD portable rig (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2kHJpTU') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51012437501_ddc7682214_b.jpg)iFi iDSD portable rig (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2kHN5qv') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Perfect Fit!!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51012534066_71c3380dd7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kHNz8q)Perfect fit (https://flic.kr/p/2kHNz8q) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583659757_4b93a4a4fc_b.jpg)2pin2mmcx-litz (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2h2aXqa') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
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Finally get to properly A/B test my Lawton Chambers...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53023871666_066103d154_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oMxcHU)TH610 TH610 TH610... (https://flic.kr/p/2oMxcHU) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041325608_09d3777a1b_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oP5EaW)20230705_184815 (https://flic.kr/p/2oP5EaW) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Here's some measurements...
Im new to REW so excuse me if I got this wrong...
This is comparing a brand new pair of TH610 out of box with another brand new pair with Wild Chechen measured on minidsp EARS using the HEQ Mic calibration.
This is with a very light clamping of the HP to the EARS with a small elastic to properly seal the headphone at the top of the earcup.
As you can see the sub-bass is significantly better - Wild Chechen chambers are even flat down to 10hz (where I started the measurement from)
The occasional sibilance you could hear in stock TH610 is also drastically reduced as you can see with the dip at 3K compared with stock chambers.
Much more to come. I also have some "reference" original HD600's with new earpads to measure against and several other HP's.
Right Stock TH610 Black Walnut Chamber
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040633240_7f65ef0e5a_h.jpg)RHQ-Stock (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP27my') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Right TH610 Wild Chechen Chamber
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040432294_c66f15c4e7_h.jpg)RHQ-Chechen (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP15BY') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Right TH610 Wild Chechen vs Stock Walnut Chamber ( Purple Chechen / Orange Stock)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040432304_aa2d176e97_h.jpg)RHQ-Chechen-vs-Stock (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP15C9') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53039862582_aa12faeabe_h.jpg)RHQ-Limba (https://flic.kr/p/2oNXagm) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Wild Chechen vs Stock vs Black Limba (Purple/Orange/Green)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040934528_e709ee63d8_h.jpg)RHQ-Chechen-vs-Stock-vs-Limba (https://flic.kr/p/2oP3DVb) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Here's Flame Marble Walnut
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040745749_25b4c52fd6_h.jpg)RHQ-Marble (https://flic.kr/p/2oP2FNn) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040745744_356377f3e3_h.jpg)RHQ-Ziricote (https://flic.kr/p/2oP2FNh) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
Wild Chechen vs Stock vs Black Limba vs Flame Marble Walnut vs Wild Ziricote (Purple/Orange/Green/Yellow/Red)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041043658_8d0e023be8_h.jpg)RHQ-Chechen-vs-Stock-vs-Limba-vs-Marble-vs-Ziricote (https://flic.kr/p/2oP4dmJ) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
HD600
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041112268_39627c2645_h.jpg)RHQ-HD600 (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP4yKE') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen vs Stock vs Black Limba vs Flame Marble Walnut vs Wild Ziricote vs HD600 (Purple/Orange/Green/Yellow/Red/Light-Blue)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53040632106_1cd82a9265_h.jpg)RHQ-Chechen-vs-Stock-vs-Limba-vs-Marble-vs-Ziricote-vs-HD600 (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP2721') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
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Time for the good stuff. Not sure if I've captured this correctly but I've given a shot!
TH610 Stock Chamber Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996233_805ddd1481_h.jpg)TH610 Stock Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedMP') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996443_b144830cd9_h.jpg)RHQ Chechen Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedRr') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042688619_96e41ea85c_h.jpg)RHQ Limba Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPcDm8') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Flame Marble Walnut Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042510666_446796b266_h.jpg)RHQ Marble Walnut Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPbJrY') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042688529_e31e510d60_h.jpg)RHQ Ziricote Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPcDjz') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
HD600 Waterfall
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042895310_a1e6f72437_h.jpg)RHQ HD600 Waterfall (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPdGML') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
TH610 Stock Chamber RT60 Decay
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042688519_7e263fbed1_h.jpg)TH610 Stock RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPcDjp') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen RT60 Decay
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041920877_ed231f763e_h.jpg)RHQ Chechen RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP8H8c') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba RT60 Decay
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996368_9e68c93a2d_h.jpg)RHQ Limba RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedQ9') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Flame Marble Walnut RT60 Decay
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996348_36137a6af2_h.jpg)RHQ Marble Walnut RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedPN') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote RT60 Decay
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996293_24991ea35e_h.jpg)RHQ Ziricote RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedNR') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
HD600 RT60 Decay (contaminated by background noise???)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042895315_2bf0a2f0d6_h.jpg)RHQ HD600 RT60 decay (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPdGMR') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
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TH610 Stock Chamber Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042895160_c8fe57f1c1_h.jpg)TH610 Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPdGKb') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996523_7611ec53d9_h.jpg)RHQ Chechen Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedSP') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996453_7b521ede7e_h.jpg)RHQ Limba Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedRB') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Flame Marble Walnut Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042688609_9d5adecaa7_h.jpg)RHQ Marble Walnut Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPcDkX') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996288_6887689076_h.jpg)RHQ Ziricote Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedNL') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
HD600 Noise + THD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996488_6dcf40fa65_h.jpg)RHQ HD600 Noise (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedSd') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
TH610 Stock Chamber CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996253_85097f05db_h.jpg)TH610 Stock CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedNa') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Chechen CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042688739_5e52aa01f3_h.jpg)RHQ Chechen CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPcDoc') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Black Limba CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996458_631320d2c1_h.jpg)RHQ Limba CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedRG') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Flame Marble Walnut CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041920727_3359ffd100_h.jpg)RHQ Marble Walnut CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oP8H5B') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
Wild Ziricote CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042996308_f2a032ff82_h.jpg)RHQ Ziricote CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPedP7') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
HD600 CSD
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53042510816_af00f66ab4_h.jpg)RHQ HD600 CSD (http://'https://flic.kr/p/2oPbJuy') by Hilton (http://'https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/'), on Flickr
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I've also retested the TH610 stock Chamber again after someone thought 6db gain from Chambers alone seems too good to be true... but alas a retest clearly shows that the difference is indeed 6db (apart from the Ziricote which is a very dense heavy wood)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53044241847_ac2519aeb9_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oPkB4V)TH610 Stock Retest (https://flic.kr/p/2oPkB4V) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53045188910_57d02d3de3_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oPqsAA)20230714_202801 (https://flic.kr/p/2oPqsAA) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr