INTERACT FORUM
More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 27 for Windows => Topic started by: Russell Storey on October 17, 2020, 11:35:07 pm
-
Hi Lads Sunday, 18 October 2020
Have been using JRiver on and off since Version 17 , I recently upgraded from MC 22 to MC 27
I am not Software engineer or Computer nerd but do like simple easy to use programs with good easy to read Visual graphics .
I was playing back a series of 2Ch Music tracks (songs ) and concerts and noticed one music track was distorting severely
I found there is no QUICK way ( visually ) Monitoring if your sound signal is over driving ( clipping ) or if you have accidentally turned up the Level to high
and over driving your computer and / or the external Amplifier
# the DSP Studio Analyzer is fine but is no good for visual L&R Level Monitoring
With Level meters you can instantly " see " on the Fly " if its a poor recording or you have set your master Levels to high for play back
# So , J river technical department ,
What about a face lift , a NEW look with J river MC 27 , stereo Digital sound level meters for at the top of the Screen for Sound Monitoring ?? option
Option 1 = is existing L&R Spectrum level display for " multi channel and stereo sound "
Option 2 = Stereo Digital level Meters for Music Or Movie 2Ch or 2Ch downmix playback
Meter range say 0dBFS. to - 70 dBFS. L & R ( Led - Horizontal bar graph with 2db segments )
# where 0dBFS. = J River System , ' Digital Zero " system reference ( maximum level )
# When working with 24-bit digital systems, it makes absolute sense to maintain a very similar gain structure and headroom, for both technical and operational convenience.
That means building in typically about 20dB of headroom above the nominal signal level, with most peaks reaching no higher than about -10dBFS
Q. What are the reference levels in digital audio systems? see > https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-what-are-reference-levels-digital-audio-systems
Kind Regards
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio ( Australia )
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
-
In the meantime, if you have access to any monitoring VSTs you can load them in to JRiver and use them as you wish.
-
Hi Mark
Would you believe , This is the very first post I have every posted on the internet .. period ..
I am 69 years old Audio /Acoustic Engineer that designs high end speakers and speaker transducers
I and not a computer software or social media expert / nor do I want to be ..
I simply want JRiver management to consider this very handy visual Add on feature / upgrade/option for its Audio /Video customers /clients ..
Can you forward my letter on to the JRiver program department manager for consideration please .
so I can get some feedback .
FYI , See my links below
Kind Regards
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio ( Australia ) 0266 793059
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
http://stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/nakamichi.htm
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/ribbon_speaker_kit/ribbon_speaker_kit_info.htm
htm
Kind Regards
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio ( Australia ) 0266 793059
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
http://stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/nakamichi.htm
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/ribbon_speaker_kit/ribbon_speaker_kit_info.htm
htm
-
Russell, what Mark means is that JRiver does not have this functionality built in because you can add it using VST plugins. In any case, there is no need to forward your request, as the developers read these forums.
VST plugins are software modules, provided by independent third parties, sometimes for free, that do these sorts of things. Once you add a VST plugin to JRiver Media Center, you can see and access it inside the JRiver interface.
You might do a google search for VST plugins to make yourself familiar. Maybe search for "vst plugin level meter".
But don't worry, I'm sending another Australian to help you!
-
I have never loaded a VST plug-in so was curious to try. This might help get you what you want....
Get the VST file you like...
1. This one looks like it might be similar to your VU meter (just copy into your browser) https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/mvmeter2.html
2. Click on download mvMeter2 link (about half way down the screen)
3. On this new page, look through the list for mvMeter2 (it is near the bottom of the first list/table)
4. Download the file for your PC/Mac (there is also a manual)
5. After download, install the program. During the install, it will tell you where it is putting the VST files. Keep a screenshot for later loading in JRiver (there is a program called snipping tool already on your PC, if using Win10), or just write down.
Now, to get JRiver to use this...
In JRiver
1. Open DSP studio (Player>DSP Studio...).
2. Select "Manage Plug-ins...">"Add JRiver, VST, or Winamp Plug-in..." (or just press Ctrl-D)
3. When the "Select Plug-in File" window appears, navigate to the .vst3 file in the VST folder structure above and select the desired .vst3 file. Select "Open". In the bottom right, you need to use the drop down menu to choose vst3 type files, and not .dll files for this plugin. Other plugins may be different.
On my PC this file was in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TBProAudio (if you have a 32bit windows version, you may need to look in the other folders listed previously)
Job is done. Leave the DSP studio open and go and press play. You should see the meter move around. I didn't read the manual, but there are lots of options in the plugin, just click on the various words around the meter and you can change the colours, size, type of meter, etc. I have been behaving a lot more like my teenager these days and just keep clicking on stuff instead of reading manuals, seems to be faster.
Write back if you need more help.
-
... I have been behaving a lot more like my teenager these days and just keep clicking on stuff instead of reading manuals, seems to be faster.
I learned that from a 19 year-old whiz kid programmer about 25 years ago. He just checked every corner of the program before beginning to use it. I was amazed how quickly he learned it.
Charlie Shopsin was his name and his family had a fairly famous little restaurant in Manhattan. He was one of the best I've ever worked with.
Thanks for the writeup.
-
Excellent eye candy thank you!!
Any way to leave the DSP window without borders like the video display, or to shrink it down? Or even have plug ins displayed elsewhere instead of having DSP open as it prevents using other controls? Maybe in future releases?