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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 21 for Windows => Topic started by: hulkss on November 02, 2015, 09:38:36 pm

Title: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: hulkss on November 02, 2015, 09:38:36 pm

I gave this sub-harmonic synthesizer a try: https://www.refusesoftware.com/lowender (https://www.refusesoftware.com/lowender)

Now I own a copy. Yes, it is that good. (The trial is fully functional but cuts in and out to make it worthless)

Install the 32 bit version into the DSP processing stream as a VST plug in. It processes in 64 bits.

Forget trying to EQ weak bass or kick drums that just aren't there. This is very adjustable and sounds great and musical. No need to fiddle with it once you have it set for a given album or concert video.

Read the documentation, very easy to use after a few minutes of experimenting.

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: JimH on November 03, 2015, 01:21:26 am

MC also has some abilities in this area.

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: blgentry on November 03, 2015, 07:28:16 am

A proper subharmonizer can do TOTALLY amazing things for recordings with very weak bass.  It works best for old stuff where they rolled out the bass in the studio on purpose.  Like The Doors for example.

It can make some really interesting effects for songs that have high bass, but no low bass line.  I've heard songs like "PYT" by Michael Jackson suddenly have sub bass response!

99% of my experience with this is using the Epicenter by Audio Control:

http://www.audiocontrol.com/car-audio/the-epicenter-processors/

I've always said they should make one for home use.  I wonder how close this plugin comes to the Epicenter effect...

Brian.

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: mojave on November 03, 2015, 08:17:08 am

How many channels does it support? Can you use with just with the subwoofer?

I've tried Voxengo's LF Max Punch which handles 8 channels so you can use it for movies. Voxengo does all processing in a 64-bit audio path.

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: hulkss on November 03, 2015, 11:02:18 pm

I believe it is working on channels 1 & 2 which should be your front main speakers with surround movies or stereo. Works great for every source I tried. Just pick up the right and left channels before you route bass away from them to the subwoofer. I don't think I would want to make sub-harmonics from the surround channels which would be bass "ambience" . The LFE channel should already be "deep" and the center channel is mostly vocals and midrange.

(https://www.refusesoftware.com/images/screen_002full.jpg)

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: rudyrednose on November 05, 2015, 02:59:04 pm

A long long time ago, DBX produced an analog sub-harmonic synthesizer  ;D

http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/dbx/100-boom-box.shtml

Title: Re: Deep Bass!! Put your subwoofers to work!
Post by: hulkss on November 05, 2015, 08:06:03 pm

Quote from: rudyrednose on November 05, 2015, 02:59:04 pm

A long long time ago, DBX produced an analog sub-harmonic synthesizer  ;D

ReFuse Software states: "Analog modeling - no FFT shenanigans!"