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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: gkerber on July 18, 2003, 06:28:50 pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3074031.stm
They say Mozilla will continue, but I'll bet that effort fizzles out one day soon too.
I really really like Netscape/Mozilla much better than IE and Outlook.
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Goodbye to Netscape, perhaps, but not necessarily Mozilla. I wonder if the absence of AOL in the process might not lead to better things instead of worse.
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Just use Opera, it's better - and generally faster - than all of them!
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Just use Opera, it's better...
That's debatable.
I certainly wouldn't pay $40 for the ad free version, when there are free browsers with no ads already.
Rob
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speaking of browsers
I found a e-mail program i thought was neat
http://www.incredimail.com
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I certainly wouldn't pay $40 for the ad free version, when there are free browsers with no ads already.
I agree. I like the "idea" of Opera, and it has a lot going for it on paper.
But every time I try it, I find site after site that doesn't work right, or doesn't work at all. When some of those sites are the ones I use for online banking and such, I tend to take a dim view of Opera in general.
I know the reason Opera doesn't work with those sites is that the sites have been tailored for MSIE, but what am I, as a customer and surfer, to do? Struggle with Opera, and "hope" my insignificant little statement gets heard above the din of MSIE? Juggle multiple browsers? I refuse to do either.
So, I use MyIE2 (http://www.myie2.com/).
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King
As you i found incredimail neat and funny.
But i was say and found critics online saying that it is a very very bad program.
Do you use it?
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I primarily use Opera, but agree that it has trouble accessing many sites and still suffers from stability problems. When it refuses to cooperate I switch to Mozilla. I'd rather alternate between the 2 browsers than be forced to use IE. There is one function in IE that I have to admit I miss in both Mozilla and Opera. IE has an auto complete function, where it remembers previously typed field values. But I'm willing to sacrifice having that function for all the other features offered by Opera and Mozilla.
Shelly
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There is one function in IE that I have to admit I miss in both Mozilla and Opera. IE has an auto complete function, where it remembers previously typed field values.
Don't know about Opera, but Mozilla has this feature. It's called Form Manager. It doesn't work exactly the same as IE, but pretty close.
Rob
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King
As you i found incredimail neat and funny.
But i was say and found critics online saying that it is a very very bad program.
Do you use it?
no but i see it has alot of options to enhance your e-mails if you wish to do so.
I prefer Outlook Express, for one it is free (sort of)
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Don't know about Opera, but Mozilla has this feature. It's called Form Manager. It doesn't work exactly the same as IE, but pretty close.
Rob,
It's not really the same functionality. Both Opera and Mozilla will remember user names and passwords for visited sites. Mozilla has a reasonable number of predefined fields for user demographic information; Opera provides only 14 of these fields. But what they both lack is the ability to remember nonuser name and nonpassword fields. For example, IE will remember all of the values entered in the AMG search field. Once I've entered "Ella Fitzgerald," the next time I only have to type "El" and the field expands to her name. It's a great time saver.
Shelly
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But what they both lack is the ability to remember nonuser name and nonpassword fields. For example, IE will remember all of the values entered in the AMG search field. Once I've entered "Ella Fitzgerald," the next time I only have to type "El" and the field expands to her name.
Yes, I used IE for years. My install of Mozilla does that to an extent. On some sites it seems to remember the values and on others it doesn't. And sometimes, for sites where it was remembering, it seems to forget every once in awhile. Not really sure why, but it hasn't really been an issue for me.
Rob
EDIT:
Actually, I might be thinking that it's Mozilla Firebird browser that does this rather than regular Mozilla. I was using Firebird, but finally got fed up with the "forms autocomplete" bug and have been using regular Mozilla for the last couple of days.
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I was using Firebird, but finally got fed up with the "forms autocomplete" bug and have been using regular Mozilla for the last couple of days.
I haven't tried Firebird; 2 browsers in development are enough to push my frustration tolerance at the moment. Hopefully, the increased resources for Mozilla will help move things along.
Shelly
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I've tried Firebird, seems okay, but it doesn't see to allow bookmarking a set of tabs like Netscape/Mozilla does. Weird that it doesn't...
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Tab Sets are on the Go menu. Keyboard shortcut is CTRL+SHIFT+T.
Rob
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I would guess that Firbird will be the push now by the Mozilla Foundation especially seing as the next milestone 1.5 is moving over to the Firebird codebase.
Adam
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I think they've pushed that back a little. I recall reading a post a Mozillazine that said 1.5a was still going to be the full Mozilla Suite.
Rob
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I switched to Opera because I was so fed up with the updates and security issues related to IE6. Yes, I miss several features from IE6, but Opera's speed and customizing options have won me over.
As for it not working with many websites, I have to say I'm not running into this problem nearly as much as I feared. I am able to use it for my on-line banking and such. Occasionaly I'll run into a bad site, but 98 percent of the time it works swimmingly. In my quick preferences on Opera I have it set to "Identify as MSIE 6.0" and although I'm not sure exactly what that does, I think it might have something to do with it's stability on many sites. I'm using the most recent Beta (7.20).
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I agree. I like the "idea" of Opera, and it has a lot going for it on paper.
But every time I try it, I find site after site that doesn't work right, or doesn't work at all. When some of those sites are the ones I use for online banking and such, I tend to take a dim view of Opera in general.
I know the reason Opera doesn't work with those sites is that the sites have been tailored for MSIE, but what am I, as a customer and surfer, to do? Struggle with Opera, and "hope" my insignificant little statement gets heard above the din of MSIE? Juggle multiple browsers? I refuse to do either.
So, I use MyIE2 (http://www.myie2.com/).
I have just downloaded MyIE2 and it's really good.
Alot faster then IE
Thanks for the link!!
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I think it might have something to do with it's stability on many sites. I'm using the most recent Beta (7.20).
Would appreciate the link for the beta release. Thanks.
Shelly
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Would appreciate the link for the beta release. Thanks.
Shelly
Ask and you shall receive. The larger file contains java.
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/
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Ask and you shall receive.
Thanks a million, Sangs. Opera doesn't make their betas readily available like Mozilla does.
Shelly
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Thanks a million, Sangs. Opera doesn't make their betas readily available like Mozilla does.
Shelly
Any time.
:D