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Title: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Matt on July 02, 2003, 02:18:34 pm
Please read VERY carefully. This is a BETA version of 9.1.  If you expect things to work, please download the latest 9.0 build from this thread:        
       
http://www.musicex.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=MediaCenter;action=di splay;num=1054751628
       
but if you're patient and willing to help us work out some of the bugs, you can download 9.1 here (recommended for experts only):        
       
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter91210.exe  
       
(backup your library before installing)      
     
Please report any 9.1 problems in this thread.  Keep a list of problems and if they aren't fixed in the next build, please post the list again.        
     
History:

1. Fixed: Grouping of non list-type view schemes didn't work.
2. Fixed: Starting the line-in recorder could take a long time. (especially with a large library)
3. Fixed: Media Center was not removing all uninstall entries.
4. Fixed: After clean install, Media Center main window would not be visible.
5. Fixed: Down arrow in properties was not pained correctly after resizing.
6. Fixed: Keyword TRACKINFO_INSERT_YEAR was not returning a value for track info templates.
7. Fixed: Search control was incorrectly painting first letter of search string.
8. Fixed: Clicking underneath the position slider would causes the player window info to swap.
9. Changed: Library Tools menu now context sensitive based on media type.
10. Changed: "Cover Art" menu changed to "Image" -- now more context sensitive.
11. Changed: Changing list styles would reset the browsing location in the panes.
12. Fixed: Changing a pane wouldn't always reset the selection of panes to the right.
13. Changed: Most menu text and all keyboard accelerators now located in external XML file. (Data\Default Resources)
14. Fixed: Playlist exporting would not properly handle playlist names with invalid filesystem characters.
15. NEW: Added navigation buttons to location bar.
16. Fixed: Resizing of toolbars and text, in location bar, was not working correctly.
17. Fixed: System tray menu would not always be on top of the start menu.
18. Fixed: MC would become visible before it was fully loaded.
19. Fixed: Library pane headers / pane menus didn't use field's customized display name.
20. Fixed: MC would not gracefully handle the removal of all browser columns.
21. Fixed: Media Center was submiting incorrect track name information to YADB.
22. NEW: Added location bar to web page views.
23. Fixed: MC secure rip mode now handles CD drives with large read caches.
24. Changed: MC history (forward / back) now works consistently in internal webpages too.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: retrospek on July 02, 2003, 02:44:53 pm
UPDATE: I've just noticed that it isn't an empty box - but a box with a 'N/A' displayed (but only shows when you hover over it for a few seconds !).  Why does it say N/A - suppose I want to associate a video frame to my video as an image .....

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If I select a Video File (MPG) and right-click and then select [Image] I just get an empty box - no Image options are displayed.

Also - when ever I start MC during the last few builds it always starts minimised.  Is this because of an option I have set somewhere - or a bug ?

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 02, 2003, 02:45:16 pm
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: 221bBS on July 02, 2003, 03:02:49 pm
BUGS



FIXED



WISHLIST
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Ken Brookings on July 02, 2003, 03:06:28 pm
seem to have lost the minimize button with this rev
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 02, 2003, 03:07:18 pm
Okay I thinkI have noticed something which could be causing the problems with grouping in Semi colon delimited fields.  When trying to set up grouping levels they are not working the same way as normal fields.  Example - I have a field Album Artist/Album but I have nested three separate Album Artist fields so it breaks down through grouped by 3, grouped by 1 and no group.  If I click on A-C in the first, A B & C are displayed in the second and all Artists beginning with those letters in the third.  If I pick C in the second, the third displays only artist beginning with C.  This is the expected behaviour.  If I right click on the column, each column has its own separtae properties.  OKay heres the crux.  If I add a second People column to the People/Places/Events view scheme and set a grouping levle of 3 to it, it sets a grouping levele of 3 to both People fields.  The columns do not operate independantly like the normal fields do with multiple columns.  If both columns are set to 3 the nested grouping does not work.  Hope this makes sense.  I will try and create a new scheme exclusively to test this out...

Adam

EXTRA: Okay more on this.  Set up a VS with 2 people columns.  If you select a person in the 1st column the second column displays people associated with that person in the standard tree.  It seems to be that if a person is only in images with the same people then all those people appear in the tree with them, if they are in pictures with lots of different people, only their name appears in the tree.  Its kindfa hard to explain but look at the tree for the People/Places/Events VS or set up a People/People VS and have a look...  Something is definitely still not right with how thishas been implemented...

A
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Ken Brookings on July 02, 2003, 03:07:29 pm
reloaded and minimize button is back
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Jaguu on July 02, 2003, 03:07:31 pm
Matt,

thanks for having made right-click menu more media-type dependent (such as no more cover-art display for images).

Media type dependencies missing:

When creating a new view scheme of type image, then the content pane should display only columns relevant to images, in the case of audio only columns relevant to music and in the case of video only relevant to video.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Sergio on July 02, 2003, 03:16:45 pm
Bugs:

- SERIOUS: some VBR MP3's with long periods of silence slow down the system to a near halt during the silence.

- SERIOUS: I sometimes get a major system slowdown for a second or two at the end of a playlist, or a shorter one between two tracks. Apparently, this only happens for VBR MP3 files, with silence removal disabled, and for the duration of the silence. I am pretty confident it is related to the problem above.

- the filetype conversion process sometimes does not tag the new files

- after finishing a conversion, MC steals the focus from the current program

- silence removal does not work correctly when "output format" is enabled with something changed (at least frequency) in the DSP settings. Only happens between tracks, not inside one.



Suggestions:

- can you please separate the silence removal option in two: inside tracks and between tracks? It would be excellent!! It's just that some tracks have silence inside them (natural pauses in music, aka "golden silence") and the combined option (naturally) removes it...
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: canaro99 on July 02, 2003, 03:29:33 pm
Start up options: Last Exit mode and Mega Me do not work. The program consistently opens in a minimize mode.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Rands on July 02, 2003, 03:53:47 pm
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: jam on July 02, 2003, 05:07:09 pm
Serious issues:

- All track info pages (dirt simple, DJ, ..., neoTropic) didn't show Japanese character.  They all show '?' instead.
- Copy and paste of tag information doesn't work properly.  For example, I select 20 songs in a album and push ^C to copy text information like song/artist/album name.  When I push ^V on Notepad, it shows only 15 songs information.
   I guess MC9 is copying the number of characters instead of bytes.  For the case of multi-bytes characters, everytime the number of characters is smaller than actual bytes.
- Japanese character is not sorted in Japanese alphabetical order.  Unicode didn't sort codes when they put characters, so need to sort them by using some rule based sort routine.  Java has such library like this, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vjref98/html/com.ms.wfc.app.Locale.Sort_f.asp.  
However, there is no such library in C?, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/intl/nls_5jsj.asp.
- If I push return key at the end of smartlist edit, MC9 starts playing the smartlist.  Please stop this behavior.
- Panes should be resizeable.  

Not serious:

- MC9.1 smartlist wizard is kinda slow.  I need to wait 7 seconds (it was 25 sec on 202 and 40 sec on 201.  it's being reduced much, but still...  hehe) to get a wizard window when I choose add artist rule from wizard.  It's beta, so I put this as non serious issue list.
- If I install MC9.1 to new machine, MC9.1 doesn't show window at first execution.  I saw this problem on 198, but never tested it again since need to install OS to test this.
- folder= query is noe filename= query.  Help file is needed to update.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: JHC on July 02, 2003, 07:19:26 pm
The plugin interface is a little broken. Here is what I have found:

MFC ActiveX controls do not get clipped to the plugin pane on the right hand side -- they draw over the entire MC window. This is reproducible with a freshly-created control

ATL based composite controls assert all over the place.

My suspicion is that this might in part be due because the plugin's window is being re-parented between show/hide... in other words when the plugin is instantiated, its parent window is different from when the plugin is made visible by activating it. Things might work better if the plugin's parent window remains constant.

I can supply sample code to reproduce the problem.

Thanks,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: JC on July 02, 2003, 07:29:29 pm
OPEN First reported 26/06/03
Status: Open
Priority: Medium
In the tools > options dialog, the scrollable icon list to the left has a scrollbar that doesn't scroll smoothly. When you click the bar and drag downwards, there is a jump and flicker as it appears to display the OS default bar for a few moments, then redraws with the skinned bar. Also becomes "unskinned" if you click the up / down buttons on the scrollbar.

OPEN First reported 01/07/03
Status: Open
Priority: Medium
When using a mini-me skin (SonixMedia in this case), when toggling the volume on using the mute button there is a pause of about 5-9 seconds where the scrolling display and visualization freeze. During this time, the entire application is frozen ... clicking anywhere has no effect.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Curtis on July 02, 2003, 08:27:44 pm
Erroneous Time Display during Playback

The playback timeline will display the correct length of a long wma file (I'm testing 8hr 12 minutes). The slider tab can be grabbed and pulled to any point along the 8 hrs and dropped to start playback at that point. The yellow ToolTip displays *about* the same time as the "xxxx/totalxxxx" line above the timeline.
  Problem: after dropping the slider anywhere past about 1hr 35 min., the time display is incorrect (negative or positive, apparently toggling in some sort of multiples of about 1hr:35, starting over at each multiple as a negative or positive number, and the digital time display above (xxxxx/totalxxx) also shows the wrong time, as well as the ToolTip the next time one "refreshes" it.
  Result: For any file longer than 1:35, can't pull the slider forward or backward to adjust the playback spot. Must grab the slider and start over dragging from 0 time to absolute new time. Fast forward doesn't work either. Compare with Windows Media Player which handles this perfectly....
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Phil Lee on July 03, 2003, 12:31:03 am
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: nila on July 03, 2003, 12:58:59 am
BUGS

Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: nila on July 03, 2003, 01:17:36 am
New XML file for menu's - great but a few points:

Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Jynx on July 03, 2003, 01:39:18 am
Help, can't run MC at all, get the following error when trying to launch the application:

Media Jukebox.exe - Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point MonitorFromRect could  
not be located in the dynamic link library user32.dll.


I'm running NT4 sp6 and user32.dll is alive and well in my system32 directory?


Jynx
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Marko on July 03, 2003, 02:04:41 am
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Help, can't run MC at all, get the following error when trying to launch the application:

Media Jukebox.exe - Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point MonitorFromRect could  
not be located in the dynamic link library user32.dll.


I'm running NT4 sp6 and user32.dll is alive and well in my system32 directory?


Jynx


Not using windowblinds there by any chance?
If the answer is "yes", then add MC to the list of excluded apps and if the answer is "no" just ignore me and I'll go away ;)
This became a pain for me which is why I ditched WB in favour of StyleXP.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: dmbfan36 on July 03, 2003, 03:03:54 am
In the File Info side panel the Bitrate for a VBR MP3 has a random value in it, and doesn't update...  179, 185, 169......

...and the Song info block at the top above the slider keeps cycling thru normal values.. 256, 160, 192, 320, 96...
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 03, 2003, 03:51:07 am
dmbfan- the random value is the average bitrate for the file.  It doesn't change.  When the file is playing the display shows the bitrate at each point in the song.  The bitrate changes throughout hence VBR - variable Bit Rate but this would be impossible to show in a static window like the file info hence the average rating...

Jynx - sounds like MC is using an API call that is not supported by NT4.  I have problems like this at work where we use NT4 also.  The fact that M$ is no longer supporting NT4 means that more and more software developers will begin to use API calls which may not work in NT4...

Adam
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: LonWar on July 03, 2003, 04:01:01 am
Hello,   Is there anyway to get a go back button for the Artist info search?? It gets a little anoying when you click on something and then can't go back... :'(

Or is this something that should be started in a new thread...

(If it is sorry)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 03, 2003, 05:05:06 am
There is a back button. It is in the toolbar at the top.  It works just  like the back button in INternet Explorer

Adam
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Sam on July 03, 2003, 06:13:19 am
After retrieving info from YADB, MC9.1 drops behind other windows.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Rands on July 03, 2003, 06:23:13 am
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There is a back button. It is in the toolbar at the top.  It works just  like the back button in INternet Explorer


Unfortunately, the back button returns you to a view's default which makes it necessary to drill back down to a particular artist.  Particularly frustrating if you want to flip between the now playing list and what you were working on in a library.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Rands on July 03, 2003, 06:52:13 am
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: LonWar on July 03, 2003, 06:56:09 am
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There is a back button. It is in the toolbar at the top.  It works just  like the back button in INternet Explorer

Adam



dOW... Found it, Thanks,
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Jaguu on July 03, 2003, 07:28:59 am
Remote Control does not seem to work! I always get the following message:

"This button is already assigned to the following command: Play/Pause
Do you want to replace that command?"

I first made RC learn the Play/Pause button. But when I want RC to learn the Stop Button I get above message. Also for most/but not all buttons! Some buttons RC can learn, other RC cannot!

Also, only one single remote control can be programmed!
If you want to have more than one, then you can't!
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: dmbfan36 on July 03, 2003, 08:13:27 am
Quote
dmbfan- the random value is the average bitrate for the file.  It doesn't change.  When the file is playing the display shows the bitrate at each point in the song.  The bitrate changes throughout hence VBR - variable Bit Rate but this would be impossible to show in a static window like the file info hence the average rating...


Yeah I pretty much figured most of that (didn't know that static # was an avg, but knew the rest)... but I guess I shoulda continued and said "Perhaps the Info panel can state VBR instead of the average"....
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 03, 2003, 10:14:42 am
The average can be useful to show how effective the VBR has been.  You can tell its VBR by looking in the MP3 format pane...

Adam
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: AMG on July 03, 2003, 10:57:26 am
Reports from me...

1 - After installing if option to start application is left enabled the main app. window never appears.  Cancelling the media search dialog leave the mediajukebox.exe running with no app. on-screen.  Must quit process and re-launch for app. to load properly.

2 - "Media Core" crashed (took the whole app. with it) when adding the MP3 Encoder plug-in (LAME) through the interface.  An MP3 was playing in the background at the time.  The crash does not appear to have adversely impacted installation of the plug-in.

3 - After selecting a song from the Media Library, right-clicking and using Library Tools - Lookup Track Info From YADB it doesn't find anything (which is fine).  However, after dismissing the information dialog that nothing was found, the app. with focus is no longer Media Center but another running app.  Focus is also lost if tracking information was found.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Sam on July 03, 2003, 05:17:15 pm
I tried to email 21,500 files, and MC crashed.  Perhaps it was because I didn't shrink the images...


Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: JaWe on July 03, 2003, 05:57:54 pm
Quote
Remote Control does not seem to work! I always get the following message:

"This button is already assigned to the following command: Play/Pause
Do you want to replace that command?"


I has been like that for weeks now, I thought it was only my remote because nobody mentioned it here before.

Before IRMAN plugin was included in install package, it worked like it should
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Pink Waters on July 04, 2003, 03:49:49 am
Quote
Status: Fixed    
Priority: HIGH    
Panes to the right no longer reset.  I understand this wasn't popular with everyone but for some view schemes it is essential.  Please could it be made an option on a per view scheme level


Where!? still the panes reseting to all. it dosen't stay on the genre/artist/album i played!
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: nila on July 04, 2003, 03:58:40 am
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I tried to email 21,500 files, and MC crashed.  Perhaps it was because I didn't shrink the images...




Your joking right??

I dont know ANY program that could e-mail that many files :)
IF MC even attempted to do this I give it credit for a brave effort - perhaps a limit to how brave it's willing to be needs to be added though.

BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Jynx on July 04, 2003, 04:28:44 am
Quote


Jynx - sounds like MC is using an API call that is not supported by NT4.  I have problems like this at work where we use NT4 also.  The fact that M$ is no longer supporting NT4 means that more and more software developers will begin to use API calls which may not work in NT4...

Adam


What you say sounds feasible I just think it would be nice if J River said somewhere that MC doens't work on NT4, currently they are still claiming it does.  


Jynx
Title: VERTICAL ScrollBars Disappear
Post by: Empyrean on July 04, 2003, 07:07:27 am
As with the last few betas, the VERTICAL scrollbars disappear. In the right-hand panes when clicking on the first pane.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: BuiltToSpill on July 04, 2003, 10:25:35 am
If in VIEW -> VIEW FILTER -> (show only audio files..etc.) is chosen, then it is automatically reset to the default of 'show all files' once MC is closed and reopened.

Is it possible to set 'show only audio files' as my default?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Sam on July 04, 2003, 11:09:27 am
Quote

Your joking right??


:)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: LisaRCT on July 04, 2003, 03:02:43 pm
Whenever I try to start MEdia Server I get an error message stating: "Couldn't create WebRemote listener"
"failed to start remote server"

Any clues?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Sam on July 04, 2003, 03:03:13 pm
Auto-scrolling in the panes is too sensitive.  It can make using click-and-drag to change tags difficult.

As an example, in panes view, drag the Artist scroll bar to the middle.  Then click on a song and try to drag it to the third row of the Artist column.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: dmbfan36 on July 04, 2003, 03:16:40 pm
The iPod download feature does not clear out the queued file list after it syncs all the files.  it shows all the files as being on the iPod but also shows them all as still being queued up... you have to close and restart MC after using the download option.

If you select "Upload Files" as opposed to the sync option things appear to work correctly....
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: juggler on July 04, 2003, 03:21:12 pm
First of all, I love 9.1. The interface is lovely and I really like the new side-by-side filtering. Am also finding it much easier to manage and browse photos. I even got it to update the date and events tags from my folder names :D

I also had some stability / other problems:

- Funny things with the view schemes. Seems to get stuck in a particular view scheme quite often and I have to close and restart MC. Seems to happen when I rename a view scheme but not sure this was always the case. The auto naming doesn't seem to track changes to the view either

- Updated a lot of files >5k from filenames and 1,800 did not update. Was ok when I selected all and ran it again. Enhancement request: Allow for "watched folders" with rules on updating tags from filenames

- Crashed on me just after deleting a view scheme then selected icon next to "new view scheme". Sorry, was actually right-clicking

- Got stuck in a smartlist (wouldn't let me move to another smartlist or smartlist group). Then crashed when I went to the library

- Something funny with the date field. When I updated tags for a few files from the filename the date was a nice clean dd/dd/yyyy, but when I did a lot some of them are dd/mm/yyyy mm:ss. Also, when I add this as a level in a view scheme, things don't work as expected. Select a date and no more filtering happens in right-hand panes and no photos appear

Hope this is all clear enough for you!
Alfie.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Quisp on July 04, 2003, 03:36:53 pm
Rotating an image clockwise, lossless causes crash. Image is located on a CF card.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: JC on July 04, 2003, 06:02:08 pm
NEW First reported 04/07/03
Status: Open
Priority: High
When using almost all mini-me skins (including fluxion by JRiver), the previous state of the player is not successfully loaded everytime. Roughly 1 out of 10 times, the player will revert back to the "default" settings when loading the skins.

The only skin that has not exhibited this issue is the Windows XP skin by Doof.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: jermaine on July 05, 2003, 04:36:33 am
This has happened in the last 4 or 5 builds, whenever i click on my cd burner or even click the create burn cd media center  stops responding for about 4 minutes then it will be fine, burn cds fine rip etc until the next time i close and start media center the same problem again.

i am running on windows xp my cd burner is a philips dvdrw1208  


also a long time ago i converted all my mp3's to mp3pro's and have been re encoding again, so far out of my 11000 song library i still have about 2000 mp3pros left does anyone know of any good mass converters out there? i want to convert back to mp3!!!

thanks
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: michel on July 05, 2003, 09:25:35 am
The buttom "copy 'listening to'" doesn't run anymore.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Marko on July 05, 2003, 10:26:11 am
Left Click on a column (in pane view). The "column Type" flyout is missing the "playlist" and "hard drive location" options.
How do we now create playlist based view schemes?

When working, say in "recently imported" and editing fields in the file info area of the properties pane, while listening to other tracks, if you're halfway through typing, and the playing now track changes, the properties pane updates, forcing the the half-typed entry to write to the library. You then have to go back into edit mode to finish the job. Irritating.

-marko.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: MachineHead on July 05, 2003, 05:15:52 pm
Erratic behavoir from the panes when using 'Send to Playing Now'. It sends the entire album instead of a single selection. Works from the tree when it is used.

Also, Hard Disk Location seems to have a bit too much redundency regarding the artist in this scheme. Note this is the default setting:

(http://webpages.charter.net/zrtm/shot111.png)

ADDITIONAL: Customizing the Player Display isn't remembered when opening MC. Will it always revert to default? And, maybe I missed this somewhere, how the hell do you get Alternative display to work?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: sraymond on July 05, 2003, 09:19:10 pm
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13. Changed: Most menu text and all keyboard accelerators now located in external XML file. (Data\Default Resources)


I don't see an element for "acquire photos"...  
maybe because there isn't an MCC for it?

Scott-
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: kiwi on July 06, 2003, 12:08:22 am
Is there a way to get an eject button or option for cd/dvd drives?  maybe in the right click menu for the drives?

(I couldn't find a way/didn't see it... maybe it's obvious... sorry if I missed it somewhere.)

kiwi
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Marty3d on July 06, 2003, 06:50:26 am
Bugs:
- Closing MC when in Playing Now and starting it again makes MC not focus on/display the currently playing song. Switching to another view and back sets the focus again.
- Toolbar converts ampersand to underscore.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: juggler on July 06, 2003, 11:30:27 am
A couple of issues today:

- Tried to rotate a picture and MC died (no error message a couple of times but just tried it again and looks like null pointer). Temporary files left behind

- Went outside of MC to rotate the images and now cannot find a way to update the thumbnails - maybe I missed something simple. Having said that, have just looked again (after closing MC) and they have updated

A gripe:

- When viewing image thumbnails in a view scheme, you need to 'play' to view a bigger image. But hitting the back button loses the view scheme selections, so you're back to looking at the entire library :(

A couple of minor enhancement requests:

- A quicker way (or shortcut key) to rotate images

- When viewing image and video thumbnails together, an indication of the file type

(pictures typically have white-space in the corners of the thumbnails so it would be really nice to put some controls in there, like rotate buttons and file type icon)

Still love 9.1 though!
Cheers, Alfie.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on July 06, 2003, 05:56:42 pm
Things are still really slow since 200. (199 was lightning)
210 seems to be more stable in playback but it takes 18 seconds to "Add to Playing Now". It doesn't matter how many tracks ... just each time, the counter and all activity (except playback, thankfully) stops for 18 seconds. One song or a dozen songs at a time, it doesn't matter. Also freezes for about 10 seconds changing from one track to the next.
Don't get me wrong --- playback continues without a hitch --- just the screen activity freezes.
If I'm adding one song at a time, I must wait 18 seconds between each add. During this time, my Processor speed is at 100%.

Quote
Media Center Registered 9.1.210 -- D:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
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Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: JimH on July 07, 2003, 12:14:54 am
Did you see Zevele's post on a problem he solved?  Another program (something DVD) was doing something special with a CD drive and causing problems with IE.

It must be something like that.  I know we've seen problems with Nero and Roxio when they had software installed to do "special" things with the CD writer.

Also, make sure you don't have any mapped network drives to machines that are off.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: michel on July 07, 2003, 02:04:12 am
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Did you see Zevele's post on a problem he solved?
Zev solved a problem ? Unbelievable !

(Jim, please cancel my post before he will return at home otherwise he is able to kill me ;-)

BTW, you will meet CMagic in Paris today ? Unhoppefully I am in Grenoble today (I will go to Paris only tomorow).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: lil_rich78 on July 07, 2003, 04:59:57 am
I've been getting problems setting the audio to 4 channels.  When I leave the output format settings and then return, it has changed to 2 channels.

The sound only works thru the front 2 speakers when using Media Centre, but can be heard from all 4 when using WMP9.

It will occasionally use all 4 channels in Media Centre, if I play a track in WMP9 first.

Rich.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: SteveG on July 07, 2003, 06:31:50 am
dmbfan36,

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If you select "Upload Files" as opposed to the sync option things appear to work correctly....


If you are synching, then you should not see the 'Queued file" list. Can you clarify for me if you are synching (right-click on the drive letter and selecting 'Synchronize') or not?

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: c1c9k72 on July 07, 2003, 07:43:48 am
Just noticed a problem with the My Computer section of MC.  If you have a full date (Month, Day, Year) set in a song, and look at it through the "My Computer" menu, it loses the Month and Day, retaining only the Year.  This would be fine, but it seem to wipe the Month and Day for the Media Library views too.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: bennyd on July 07, 2003, 09:45:47 am
It is not possible anymore to attach cover art to movies
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Matt on July 07, 2003, 09:47:19 am
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If in VIEW -> VIEW FILTER -> (show only audio files..etc.) is chosen, then it is automatically reset to the default of 'show all files' once MC is closed and reopened.

Is it possible to set 'show only audio files' as my default?


Look in the view filter menu.  There's an options called "Save View Filter Between Sessions"

Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: c1c9k72 on July 07, 2003, 10:00:46 am
One more thing I've recently noticed, but I think it's been there for a while.  For whatever reason, something is adding the value 'a' to the Mood field.  I'm not sure why it's doing this, since I know I've never added a value to Mood.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: NoCodeUK on July 07, 2003, 11:25:49 am
NEW First reported 07/07/03 (A date we agree on on both sides of the pond :))
Status: Open
Priority: Medium
Since the image menu was removed from everything but audio there is now no longer any options for video thumbnails.  At the very least there should be a remove thumbnail option.

Adam
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: dmbfan36 on July 07, 2003, 02:42:06 pm
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dmbfan36,


If you are synching, then you should not see the 'Queued file" list. Can you clarify for me if you are synching (right-click on the drive letter and selecting 'Synchronize') or not?

Thanks,

Steve



Sorry I was using the "Portable Download" button.. not syncing... there is a difference in behavior as I described between that and the "Upload Files" button....
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Doof on July 07, 2003, 06:26:39 pm
The Playlist Tab in the File Properties window doesn't update properly. If I add a playlist, it won't show up in File Properties until I change to a different tab and then back to Playlists.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: mkutsen on July 07, 2003, 06:58:20 pm
1)Dragging the scroll bar in the options menu changes the appearance of the scroll bar from MC skin style to the default windows style and back, making scrolling very jerky.

2)When one uses ASIO for streaming web content, switching stations causes stuttering and occasionally crashes.  This bug has been there forever!

3)I wish it was possible to remove the upper pane in the Media library view; I really don't use it at all. Figured out how to do that.

4) I still think you should be able to hear MC fast forwarding while you hold the 'fast forward' button like every other player; same for  the rewind button.

5)The shuffle, DSP, and continuous buttons are too hard to see.

6)Double-clicking on empty space in Hairstyle doesn't switch you bakc to MEGA-ME anymore.

7)I like the program a lot, but it seems stability is an issue with many users and now reviewers as well.  I think it should be high on the priority list.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Cmagic on July 07, 2003, 09:32:51 pm
Hi,

Bug: The losless rotation feature for images seems broken in this build. It consistently triggers a Media Core crash.

C.


Media Center Registered 9.1.210 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1195 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 167 MB

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Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: jimpmc on July 08, 2003, 05:08:09 am
There are two issues with Media Server which continue to exist in the latest build of 9.1:

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I have had 2 issues with Media server, which have existed for several builds of the 9.1 beta:

1) Custom View Schemes are not shown on TiVo when using Media server.  Only a set of 4 default views are ever provdied, regardless of changes to the library.

2) Within Media server, if you click file->stop sharing and then hit file->share (to presumably have media server reflect any new changes to the library), Media server consistently crashes with "Media server.ex.exe has generated errors and will be closed by Windows."  You can restart it and it seems to work fine, but you can't stop/start it from within the program.



Can the TiVo HMO be hooked back in to the custom view schemes of 9.1?  Or is that on hold pending finalization of some 9.1 structure?

-J
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Matt on July 08, 2003, 07:26:08 am
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Can the TiVo HMO be hooked back in to the custom view schemes of 9.1?  Or is that on hold pending finalization of some 9.1 structure?


Within the next few builds.  The view scheme system is getting a little overhaul right now.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: Rands on July 08, 2003, 08:28:49 am
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I like the program a lot, but it seems stability is an issue with many users and now reviewers as well.  I think it should be high on the priority list.


Just for the record, and I may be an exception here, but MC9 has been incredibly stable for me considering the amount of things it does.  Although 100% stability is always desired, I think if you compare the amount of actual, show-stopping problems in MC9 with the sheer functionality and flexibility of the software, I'd say the J River people are really on top of things.

This, of course, coming from a purely software development standpoint and not an end-user one (not to suggest that anyone is exclusively either).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.1.210 beta available
Post by: nila on July 08, 2003, 10:18:19 am
BUG
Am finding that I cant type anything in the search bar at times.

I type but nothing is appearing.


Also - can the 'undo' PLEASE be made to go accross all instances - right now MC is crashing doing some tasks and then the undo is no longer working as it's a new instance.

Or at least do it like windows does - if it detects it shut down properly then it clears itself.
If a flag isn't set saying it shut down properly then it carries on so we can undo things before the crash.