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Title: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 06, 2017, 02:24:35 am
Is there a way for the user to fine tune carnac? It still seems to struggle with the pretty normal naming convention "Movie.name.[year].codec", it often doesn't remove periods, and tries to find info that is after the year (which very seldom is the movies name).
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: Hendrik on July 06, 2017, 03:06:29 am
Carnac is an automated process, it cannot be tuned.

If you have specific names that fail to lookup basic information, then please share the unmodified names, and we'll take a look.
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 06, 2017, 10:39:12 am
Carnac is an automated process, it cannot be tuned.

If you have specific names that fail to lookup basic information, then please share the unmodified names, and we'll take a look.
An example:

Star.Trek.Beyond.2016.1080p.Bluray.H264.AC3-OWN.mkv
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: lepa on July 06, 2017, 02:24:26 pm
Silent Witness - S15E11   - episode name 1-2 - 2017-05-14.mkv
Silent Witness - S15E11   - episode name 2-2 - 2017-05-14.mkv
Doctor Who (2005) - S10E12 - The Doctor Falls HDTV-1080p.mkv
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: CountryBumkin on July 07, 2017, 05:15:49 am
You need to use a naming format that is somewhat "conventional". Carnac can't figure out every possible file naming method a User comes up with.

See https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/TV_Episodes
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: Hendrik on July 07, 2017, 05:26:08 am
An example:

Star.Trek.Beyond.2016.1080p.Bluray.H264.AC3-OWN.mkv

This seems to work just fine.
It reads "Star Trek Beyond" for [Name] and 2016 for [Date].
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 07, 2017, 11:25:01 am
This seems to work just fine.
It reads "Star Trek Beyond" for [Name] and 2016 for [Date].

Hmm, weird, didn't work for me (it searched for "OWN"). I see if I can find any more examples (i usually fix them right away, so it's not always easy to remember). Has the behavior been changes lately?
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: lepa on July 08, 2017, 06:28:10 am
Hmm, weird, didn't work for me (it searched for "OWN"). I see if I can find any more examples (i usually fix them right away, so it's not always easy to remember). Has the behavior been changes lately?
Sometimes filename is also set in the matroska tag and then MC got name tag as it is in the matroska tag... I think.... maybe

If you do update library from the tags MC read name field again from the matroska tag and that dotted name appear again
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 08, 2017, 07:04:43 am
Sometimes filename is also set in the matroska tag and then MC got the as it is in the tag... I think.... maybe

If you do update library from the tags MC read name field again from the matroska tag and that dotted name appear again

Hmm, that might be the case, if the title tag in the matroska-file is populated with the filename. (As it seems to be in my case), it seems like it just searches the title tag "verbatim".
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 08, 2017, 10:02:23 am
You need to use a naming format that is somewhat "conventional". Carnac can't figure out every possible file naming method a User comes up with.

See https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/TV_Episodes

For what it is worth, the way this persons file is named is a standard naming convention not some odd method that they came up with. Anytime my DVR fails to record a show (cable outage or other problem) and I grab a copy from online somewhere that is generally how it is named.

For TV Shows the 'standard' is:  Series.Name.SxxExx.(additional information about the contents)
For movies the 'standard' is: Movie.Name.YEAR.(additional information about the contents)

The 'additional information about the contents' contains information about where the content came from (TV recording, web download, etc), the encoding used, and what person or group created the file. Wikipedia has good information about what the different abbreviations mean
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 10, 2017, 03:20:34 am
Hmm, that might be the case, if the title tag in the matroska-file is populated with the filename. (As it seems to be in my case), it seems like it just searches the title tag "verbatim".

So will this be "fixed"? (in lack of a better word, it is more a design choice than a anything else). Will MC continue to serch the MKV Title-tag verbatim if it is populated with the filename, or will it be changed?
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: Hendrik on July 10, 2017, 03:33:48 am
If a title/name tag is set in a file, then it'll be used. I see no real reason to change that. If we start to distrust file metadata, that'll lead to all sorts of crazyness.
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 10, 2017, 04:05:52 am
If a title/name tag is set in a file, then it'll be used. I see no real reason to change that. If we start to distrust file metadata, that'll lead to all sorts of crazyness.

Ok, thanks for the feedback, I will change how i handle files accordingly.

On a related note, can MC write to mkv-tags?
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: Ashfall on July 10, 2017, 10:21:35 am
Would it be possible to add a user selectable option to ignore video file metadata during import?

In case anyone is interested in a workaround, this worked for my setup:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,109348.msg762787.html#msg762787
Title: Re: Ability to fine tune carnac?
Post by: flac.rules on July 10, 2017, 10:58:31 am
Would it be possible to add a user selectable option to ignore video file metadata during import?

In case anyone is interested in a workaround, this worked for my setup:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,109348.msg762787.html#msg762787

Yeah, that would be useful, for me at least.