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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 23 for Windows => Topic started by: eljr on September 25, 2017, 01:13:31 pm
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I have a new PC, it's dedicated to audio. So right now there is nothing on it. First program I will install is MC23.
I have MC20 on an old decided PC.
When I transfer the my Music file to the new PC, will all the tagging and added artwork be lost? (the data I added to JRiver that was missing from the albums ... like cover art, name of the tracks, truncation issues corrected...
Is it best to transfer files first? Load MC23 first?
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Maybe I am asking this question all wrong.
Let me start over.
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I am upgrading both hardware and software.
I bought a new PC, that I will dedicated to audio.
I want Jriver23 to be the controlling software.
I currently have JRiver 20 on the old dedicated PC.
Audio only. No movies or pictures.
How do I best transfer/move/set up the new PC?
Is there a step by step?... so I don't lose tags cover art , setting..... that I have added?
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If the media files are accessible via the same drive letter and path on the new PC simply back up the MC20 library on the old PC and copy it to the new PC and perform a restore into MC23.
The basic process is covered in a video linked in my footer below.
Spike
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The wiki has a topic called Moving Files .
Install MC23 on the new machine.
Copy the files from your old machine to the new one. Best would be to use MC's Rename, Move, and Copy tool.
Try restoring a backup from the old machine, but the locations need to be the same or you need to edit them with the MC tool called Find and Replace.
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The wiki has a topic called Moving Files .
Install MC23 on the new machine.
Copy the files from your old machine to the new one. Best would be to use MC's Rename, Move, and Copy tool.
Try restoring a backup from the old machine, but the locations need to be the same or you need to edit them with the MC tool called Find and Replace.
I understand in macro, I think.
In the micro, I have no clue how or why to go about this. https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Moving_Files
Am I not simply placing my "Music" folder (where all my downloads/rips are kept) on a jump drive (or on any storage devise) and then moving them to the new PC?
Then, there is some kind of settings folder in JRiver that tell JRiver how I want the information in the folders used? I next have to find this, then move that the same way?
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More detail than you probably need, but here goes anyway.
If the music files are on an internal drive on the old PC, then you need to move the files. If they are on a external usb drive, then you can just move the external drive to the new PC. I am assuming they are probably on an internal PC.
The music files probably do not have all the tags in them that MC uses. MC stores the tags and cover art it uses in a separate library, independent of the actual music files. The library also contains any setup options you have made on the existing copy of MC. You need to transfer that library data to the new machine. To do that, you need to do a backup of the library on the new machine (File - Library - Backup), then move that library file to the new PC and Restore it with the new version of MC. A MC 20 backup should restore to a new MC 23, but there is a chance it will not. Let's assume it will for now. But you need to move the music files first.
There are two ways to move files. One is to use the Rename, Move, Copy tool within MC. To do that you need to connect both systems to a network and allow the old PC to have read/write access to the new PC's drives. The second way to move the files is just using Explorer, either across the network or using a portable usb drive as a intermediary.
To move the files from the old PC to the new one with Explorer, the easiest way is to do it via a network. You just have to connect both PCs to a local network and give the new PC read access to the files on the old PC. Then you can use Explorer to copy the files from the old PC to the new PC, duplicating the new file structure exactly. That is, if your files are stored in c:\music on the old PC, put then in c:\music on the new PC exactly as they are on the old one.
If you do not know how to set up a network to do this, then you can copy the files from the old PC to a usb drive, then move the usb drive to the new computer and copy then to the internal drive on the new PC. Again, you need to duplicate the file structure exactly.
Once you have the files on the new PC in exactly the same directory structure, you can Restore the library (File - Library - Restore) and everything should pretty much work.
The Rename, Move, Copy tool is very powerful and can be used to move the music files. If you use it, just take it slowly. It is easy to make a mistake at first. So, a trial with a few files is easy. In this case, you probably want to do a copy, keeping the music files and library on the old PC in tact while creating new ones on the new PC. Again, you want to exactly duplicate the file structure on the new PC.
Once you install MC 23, it will start to do an auto import. You should stop that. That will allow you to restore the copy of the original library.
If you want to use the old PC to play the files stored on the new PC should should look at the Media Network options for setting up a client/server solution. That would let you use the existing music plus any music you add. You would have to upgrade the version of MC on the old PC to do that. The MC23 license can be added to both machines. There is no extra charge for the second license.
I am sure you are aware of this, but do not delete anything on the old PC until you are completely satisfied with how the new one is working.
Good luck.
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A minor edit. 8)
You need to transfer that library data to the new machine. To do that, you need to do a backup of the library on the new old machine (File - Library - Backup), then move that library backup (zip) file to the new PC and Restore it with the new version of MC.
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Thanks!
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1 So step one is to install MC23 on the new machine. Correct?
2 Step two is to transfer the MC 20 library data to the new machine. Yes?
a) backup library
b) move backup to new PC and restore.
Or step one is moving my "music" folder to the new PC? (or it does not much matter which I do first?)
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Honestly? I'd move the music first. But I'd HIGHLY recommend storing the music on either a dedicated hard drive (that's not the boot/Windows install drive), external hard drive or a NAS. If Windows screws up (or worse the hard drive dies) and you're forced to reformat, you'll lose all your music. Having it stored on a dedicated hard drive/external hard drive/NAS can help prevent that... plus you don't have to worry about moving files if you get a new PC.
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1 So step one is to install MC23 on the new machine. Correct?
2 Step two is to transfer the MC 20 library data to the new machine. Yes?
a) backup library
b) move backup to new PC and restore.
Or step one is moving my "music" folder to the new PC? (or it does not much matter which I do first?)
Move the music files first. Then restore the library.
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Having it stored on a dedicated hard drive/external hard drive/NAS can... you don't have to worry about moving files if you get a new PC.
Sooooo can I buy a external hard drive, back up my "music" folder to it and then just copy the files to the new hard drive?
or, back up to an external hard drive and just direct MC23 to use the folder there as the library?
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Move the music files first. Then restore the library.
OK. got it.
I just looked up the difference between a NAS and external hard drive.
If I go with a NAS, is it a simple set up or will I then need to learn how to set up a network?
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Sooooo can I buy a external hard drive, back up my "music" folder to it and then just copy the files to the new hard drive?
Well, if you have everything stored on an external hard drive you don't really need to copy everything back to the main drive, in my opinion. Just leave the external hard drive connected and point MC to the files on it and play the music files off the external hard drive. That's what I've done in the past, years ago.
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Sounds like you are not familiar with operating a network, so I would stay away from a NAS.
Where you store your files somewhat depends on their size. If they fit comfortable on the internal disk in your new PC, then you can put them there. Then, you can get an external drive and create a copy of the files on the external drive. You should always have 2 copies of the files in case something happens to the drive. If you put the main files on a usb drive, you still should have another drive for backup. So, if they fit on the internal drive, I would put them there and get a usb drive for backup. You can backup your music files and a backup of the MC library backup. With that, you can always recreate your setup if something happens to the internal drive.
For backup, you can use a program that does it automatically on a regular schedule. I backup my music and all the other files on my internal drive on a daily basis. The program will decide if any changes are made to any files, and only make copies of new files or files that have been change. I use SyncBack, which has a free version. The idea is to backup the music files, the MC library file and any active directory on a regular basis. I do it every night at 1 AM. No matter how you set up your music, you should take this opportunity to set up a regular backup procedure.
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Thanks all
I am going to copy (or send) my "music" folder to the external hard drive now.
Then I will be back for more guidance.
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Honestly? I'd move the music first. But I'd HIGHLY recommend storing the music on either a dedicated hard drive (that's not the boot/Windows install drive), external hard drive or a NAS. If Windows screws up (or worse the hard drive dies) and you're forced to reformat, you'll lose all your music. Having it stored on a dedicated hard drive/external hard drive/NAS can help prevent that... plus you don't have to worry about moving files if you get a new PC.
This method is very easy and may be the best way. You do not have to use copy rename move feature.
on the new PC, attach the drive, assuming you want to use same external drive, then import.
if you want all the contents of the drive in the new PC, lift the entire folder from source to target-- new PC, then import.
George
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This method is very easy and may be the best way. You do not have to use copy rename move feature.
on the new PC, attach the drive, assuming you want to use same external drive, then import.
if you want all the contents of the drive in the new PC, lift the entire folder from target to source-- new PC, then import.
George
Importing only works if all the tags and cover art are stored in the file. Anything unique to the library will be lost, as will any MC settings, views, playlists, etc. Doing a Backup and Restore retains all those things.
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Importing only works if all the tags and cover art are stored in the file. Anything unique to the library will be lost, as will any MC settings, views, playlists, etc. Doing a Backup and Restore retains all those things.
OK, so
step 1 Move the folder "music" from old PC to ne PC
Can I simply left click the "music" folder>send to>drive E (external hard drive) ?
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Yes, although it is a right click.
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Should I instead do a back up of the music folder on a external hard drive?
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Don't know that error. Assuming you can assess the drive, just go into Explorer and drag and drop the music folder to your external drive.
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Should I instead do a back up of the music folder on a external hard drive?
I'm not sure exactly what you are doing; I'm also not sure you know what you are doing either :(
The error relates to a file of type 'Library', my music file are type 'Media Center File' so I'm not sure what you're actually copying and if that file is currently locked open by an application.
Is there someone you know/lives in your household who can help you with your PC?
Spike
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I'm not sure exactly what you are doing; I'm also not sure you know what you are doing either :(
The error relates to a file of type 'Library', my music file are type 'Media Center File' so I'm not sure what you're actually copying and if that file is currently locked open by an application.
Is there someone you know/lives in your household who can help you with your PC?
Spike
ROTFLMAO
yeah, MC can do that to a person.
I test a genius but have time and again been brought to my knees by this media center.
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Don't know that error. Assuming you can assess the drive, just go into Explorer and drag and drop the music folder to your external drive.
appears to be working
I assume the next step is to take the external drive and connect it to the new PC.... then do the same
Copy to the Music folder there.
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Next:
I did a backup yesterday of MC as you said but I do not know where to now find it to copy and take to the new machine.
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Look at Tools - Options - File Locations - Program Files. It will show the location of the backup. You might want to just click on Library Backups and change the location for the backups to something easier to find and then do a new backup. Setting the location for backups also makes doing a backup easier.
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I did a backup yesterday of MC as you said but I do not know where to now find it to copy and take to the new machine.
Do consider looking at my videos, I have one on upgrading MC. OK it doesn't cover moving media files from one PC to another, but it does cover back up and restore and lots of interesting configuration information for configuring MC that may help shorten the learning curve. The videos reduce our (or at least 'my') time spent in the forum helping people so I can spend more time listening to music :)
Spike
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Look at Tools - Options - File Locations - Program Files. It will show the location of the backup. You might want to just click on Library Backups and change the location for the backups to something easier to find and then do a new backup. Setting the location for backups also makes doing a backup easier.
Go to Options (ctrl-o)
Type backup in the search window at the bottom.
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Go to Options (ctrl-o)
Type backup in the search window at the bottom.
I just created a new folder for my MC23 - 64 bit backups. That apparently sets the location for automatic backups only. If you do a manual backup you still have to set the folder name at the top of the backup window. It seems like manual backup should pick up the default location also. For now, I guess you need to set the folder name manually at the top of the window if you want to change it when you do a manual backup.
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Look at Tools - Options - File Locations - Program Files. It will show the location of the backup. You might want to just click on Library Backups and change the location for the backups to something easier to find and then do a new backup. Setting the location for backups also makes doing a backup easier.
Got it when I was looking for my MC 20 license.
When I tried to open MC20, after copying the music folder, I got this message.
Not sure why copying my own music files would eliminate my license but it did.
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Do consider looking at my videos, I have one on upgrading MC. OK it doesn't cover moving media files from one PC to another, but it does cover back up and restore and lots of interesting configuration information for configuring MC that may help shorten the learning curve. The videos reduce our (or at least 'my') time spent in the forum helping people so I can spend more time listening to music :)
Spike
I have seen them all and learned more about this media player than in all the years combined owning it. (I am subscribed to your channel)
I found the back up file.
Leave it zipped and put it on a jump drive to take to new machine?
Can I unzip on old machine and take it unzipped?
When I get it there, what next?
Is it time to download MC23 before I move the back up zip file over?
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Move the zip file to the new PC, download and install MC23 on the new PC and the Restore the library (File - Library - Restore Library).
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it seems to have worked..... maybe a little early to call as most the album art is missing but popping up slowly. Looks to be all my settings. I'll give it an hour or so to complete then I'll look around and get a better idea.
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Album art thumbnails can take a while to build. Sounds like you might be in good shape :)
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Album art thumbnails can take a while to build. Sounds like you might be in good shape :)
I am fearful to claim victory without exploring a bit more but now only 12 cover arts missing. Looks like all the files made it and all my setting are there.
Other good points, I got a external hard drive to facilitate this so now I can schedule regular backups for the "music" folder and I have the full music folder on the new PC, old PC and external so that is good.
I also set up a homegroup for my 3 PCs, another byproduct of this move. Still a hitch though (or it's just how home groups work) as the PCs must be over WIFI to be seen by the other PCs. If I use the Lan for a PC, that PC disappears.
On to tagging of Classical collections. I had tried but it went south when I just about had it set. :(
As I am a visual learner, maybe Spike1000 can do a video on this for all. The Wiki pages are not very helpful to someone like me. :'(
I really appreciate you, Spike and the others helping. Honest, I never though it would work. I fully anticipated I would wind up starting from scratch, entering one album folder at a time....
It was actually very easy, if I could have understood the simplicity of it all.
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one of the few snags, (https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21232126_1631275936919034_3373844813500533703_n.jpg?oh=aa9d771a35f745663b928ae51c8a6074&oe=5A55923A)
Notice the missing album art for the Schatacovich album. It is actually one track from the Schatacovich album in this same photo. So the art is not missing, the track has become separated from it's album. How can I move it back as the first track of disc 2 in it's album?
Seems all the missing art, about a dozen, is not missing art but rather a track or 2 or 5 missing separated from their albums.
Easy fixes or do I have to delete, dig out the CD and rip anew? (that is what I have done in the past when this happened on occasion)
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instead of using a "HomeGroup" I would share the folders you need to view on the other pc...just my opinion
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instead of using a "HomeGroup" I would share the folders you need to view on the other pc...just my opinion
I am fine with that.... how? ::)
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Check the Album, Artist and Album Artist(auto) tags. They should be the same for all tracks in an album. For multi-artist albums, Album Artist can be used to define an album. There is a Wiki titled Album Artist that discusses the details.
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Notice the missing album art for the Schatacovich album. It is actually one track from the Schatacovich album in this same photo. So the art is not missing, the track has become separated from it's album. How can I move it back as the first track of disc 2 in it's album?
So you see multiple album covers for that one album correct? Here's how to fix it:
Do a search so you can see all of the album covers for this album. They should all have the same album name.
Highlight all album covers for this album.
Open the tagging pane (Edit > Tag)
Make sure that the [Album] and [Album Artist] fields are the same for this album. You will probably have to change the [Album Artist] for some of the tracks. Just pull down the box and choose the correct value.
Close the Tagging Pane.
Refresh your view, or go to a new view and then back to this one. You should now see just one album cover for this album.
If this doesn't work, please show us a screen shot with more details about the two or more instances of this album that you see.
Brian.
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On to tagging of Classical collections. I had tried but it went south when I just about had it set. :(
As I am a visual learner, maybe Spike1000 can do a video on this for all. The Wiki pages are not very helpful to someone like me. :'(
I'm glad you got it done; I wasn't sure if you going come out of this one 'alive' :) You've made it in one piece! Trying to guide people through multi-step processes via a forum and the odd picture is tough!
I do plan a video on tagging, but I'll have to leave it to someone else who actually has some classical music to go through classical tagging; I get the impression there's no one correct answer or right way to do it. There has been some detailed posts in the past - maybe in the V22 forum and earlier.
Spike
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I'm glad you got it done; I wasn't sure if you going come out of this one 'alive' :) You've made it in one piece! Trying to guide people through multi-step processes via a forum and the odd picture is tough!
I do plan a video on tagging, but I'll have to leave it to someone else who actually has some classical music to go through classical tagging; I get the impression there's no one correct answer or right way to do it. There has been some detailed posts in the past - maybe in the V22 forum and earlier.
Spike
i noticed there are some new tags in mc23, one for "boxed set" and an entire area with classical tags.
Now that I know you can backup your setting and reinstall i might stick my neck out and experiment.
no one correct way? MC could create a "one correct way" and stop with the 1,000,000 options!
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no one correct way? MC could create a "one correct way" and stop with the 1,000,000 options!
Then there would be 999,999 people who disagreed with the method created! ;)
There are too many varied preferences of how to view Classical music to define just one way in MC. Flexibility is MC's biggest advantage.
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Then there would be 999,999 people who disagreed with the method created! ;)
There are too many varied preferences of how to view Classical music to define just one way in MC. Flexibility is MC's biggest advantage.
Agreed. Tagging is not the issue - viewing is. Someone who listens to mostly symphonies is going to have different ideas on viewing than someone who listens mostly to chamber music or choral music or opera. Different views for different types of classical music makes sense to me. None of this will ever be standardized.
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So you see multiple album covers for that one album correct? Here's how to fix it:
Do a search so you can see all of the album covers for this album. They should all have the same album name.
Highlight all album covers for this album.
Open the tagging pane (Edit > Tag)
Make sure that the [Album] and [Album Artist] fields are the same for this album. You will probably have to change the [Album Artist] for some of the tracks. Just pull down the box and choose the correct value.
Close the Tagging Pane.
Refresh your view, or go to a new view and then back to this one. You should now see just one album cover for this album.
If this doesn't work, please show us a screen shot with more details about the two or more instances of this album that you see.
Brian.
The albums which became "separated" in the migration cannot be put back together in this standard method. :(
If I do attempt to change the tags I get this message.
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Luckily this was only the case for less than 10 albums. I have the CD's so this is nothing. (I have CD backup of everything, even all my downloads I put on disc.)
What is interesting is that some cases the tags are correct and match exactly and in other cases the tags appeared to have changed, as if they were updated from the on line feature Media Center has... they were correct but very long album and artist names... one's I would never use. In fact, I have to wonder if they did not need to be truncated.
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I have got to rate this migration a bigtime success overall!
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It's hard for me to count the letters in that screen shot because it's kind of small. But those path and file names are REALLY long. If they are over 127 characters, that might be the source of the problem. I theorize that these tags were "wrong" on your original system too, and you're just noticing it now because you are carefully reviewing your library.
The tagging error could be because of the file name/path limit in Windows. That would cause MC to not be able to write to your files to change their tags.
Brian.
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It's hard for me to count the letters in that screen shot because it's kind of small. But those path and file names are REALLY long. If they are over 127 characters, that might be the source of the problem. I theorize that these tags were "wrong" on your original system too, and you're just noticing it now because you are carefully reviewing your library.
The tagging error could be because of the file name/path limit in Windows. That would cause MC to not be able to write to your files to change their tags.
Brian.
well. I still have my original system unaltered so I can check.
Nothing would surprise me.
here ya go, screen shots from MC 20
Here you can see it's one album
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here you can see it 's all in order... or is it??
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I'm not sure what's going on. I still suspect file path length limit, but I can't be sure. If you could post a full path and filename for those two affected files, we could count the characters and see if it's past the limit or not.
Or maybe someone else has a better idea.
Brian.
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I vaguely remember going through this type of issue during one upgrade a few years ago. I think my solution was to simply change the name to something shorter but do not remember the details.
You could change the artist or album tag temporarily to something else for the album and then try to import just that album and see what happens. If even that gives an error, you might just try to delete the album from the library and import it again. Given that there are only 10 albums, such a manual approach might be the easiest solution.
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Not that it really matters buy my preference is to store my music files just off the root of a drive eg C:\Media. Even better on a separate drive letter to the OS ie D:\Media or say M:\Media rather than within a user's profile directory. It makes it bit more self contained and portable and easy to move to a new machine or copy to another PC via a USB drive (just plug it in and add it as the same drive letter). C drives I keep small (say 80GB or less) and my large media collection on its own drive that can simply swapped for a larger one should I out grow the drive capacity. It could be moved to a NAS share and again given the same drive letter and everything would just continue to work without any reconfiguration.
The file paths are a bit shorter too :)
Spike
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The tagging error could be because of the file name/path limit in Windows. That would cause MC to not be able to write to your files to change their tags.
Brian.
I know. So then when you rip, MC advises you and you need to truncate it.... right?
and it played on the old PC....
just sayin, I don't hold the answers, you do. But if this is the case I'd love to understand how and why this happens. Just for general knowledge. Like I said, I am thrilled with but a handful of issues I can fix.
These are the 2 files that separated themselves.
Battalia, a 10 - Die Liederliche Gesellschaft Von Allerley Humor: Allegro
Battalia, a 10 - Lamento Der Verwundten Musquetirer: Adagio
If you need that long string, which is what I suspect, tell me how to copy it.
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I vaguely remember going through this type of issue during one upgrade a few years ago. I think my solution was to simply change the name to something shorter but do not remember the details.
You could change the artist or album tag temporarily to something else for the album and then try to import just that album and see what happens. If even that gives an error, you might just try to delete the album from the library and import it again. Given that there are only 10 albums, such a manual approach might be the easiest solution.
Exactly what I am doing. It's so easy. I have 5 albums that I need to do this for.
Only 5 because the other 5 I was able to fix.
and I did think to try the temporary change you suggest, did not work. (only tried it on one, don't recall which one it was.)
Like I said, I could not be happier.
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Sounds like we don't need to really investigate and experiment too much since you are able to easily fix these. That's great!
Just for the record: My speculation was that you had taken a file from something like:
D:\path\to\the\file.flac
...and put in on your C drive like:
C:\users\yourusername\music\path\to\the\file.flac
That would have added 10 or 20 characters to the filename, which might have pushed it over the Windows limit for total path length.
Either way, I'm glad you're getting it sorted out. :)
Brian.
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Enjoy the new system :)
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You may wish to check a setting on your old PC and compare it to the new PC. It is experimental, and I don't know how well it works, or its development status, but there is a setting for long file names in MC.
"Options > General > Advanced > Support extra long file names (experimental)"
If that was turned on in your old PC, and is off in your new PC, that would explain the failure in the new PC.
Perhaps try turning it on if you haven't fixed all the issues, and see if that setting does it.
PS: I agree your music shouldn't be under your User Profile directory, or on your C: drive at all. It would have been best if you new PC had a second hard drive in it, and the music was put on that, or if that was a problem, the music went onto a fast external USB drive. But as you have put it onto your C: drive, keep an eye on free space there. You should never let it get below 10%, and preferably 30% free space.
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You may wish to check a setting on your old PC and compare it to the new PC. It is experimental, and I don't know how well it works, or its development status, but there is a setting for long file names in MC.
"Options > General > Advanced > Support extra long file names (experimental)"
If that was turned on in your old PC, and is off in your new PC, that would explain the failure in the new PC.
Perhaps try turning it on if you haven't fixed all the issues, and see if that setting does it.
The long filename option was introduced in MC 21.0.78. Since the original files came from MC 20, I do not think that is the problem. If you look at the error message, the error and the filename are not the same. Not sure what is going on.
PS: I agree your music shouldn't be under your User Profile directory, or on your C: drive at all. It would have been best if you new PC had a second hard drive in it, and the music was put on that, or if that was a problem, the music went onto a fast external USB drive. But as you have put it onto your C: drive, keep an eye on free space there. You should never let it get below 10%, and preferably 30% free space.
As long as there is plenty of space on the c:drive, I don't see any reason to put the music on a separate disk. Obviously, if the disk starts to get full, then another drive is necessary. Personally, I like having everything under a user directory. I find it easier than remembering where the files are stored. Seems like a personal preference.
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I noticed that one of the albums you were having trouble with was a Shostakovitch symphony album by the Boston Symphony under Andris Nelsons. So, I thought you might be interested in a review of his Eleventh done last night night for the first time by them. The concert will be released on Deutsche Grammophon.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2017/09/29/bso-continues-shostakovich-cycle-continues-with-eleventh/IHArzA3omAI69Ve58bTION/story.html
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PS: I agree your music shouldn't be under your User Profile directory, or on your C: drive at all. It would have been best if you new PC had a second hard drive in it, and the music was put on that, or if that was a problem, the music went onto a fast external USB drive. But as you have put it onto your C: drive, keep an eye on free space there. You should never let it get below 10%, and preferably 30% free space.
not sure what this means "User Profile directory"
as to space, no issue
I bought this PC as a dedicated audio PC and made sure I had a plenty big hard drive for my current and future needs. It's over 75% free space after the migration. As I said, it's only for audio files so I will have no room issues. Is there another reason you feel I should use attached storage besides space?
I am backed up on an external hard drive , how would reversing this configuration benefit me?
Space was not an issue on the old PC but still I doubled the hard drive with the new one.
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As long as there is plenty of space on the c:drive, I don't see any reason to put the music on a separate disk. Obviously, if the disk starts to get full, then another drive is necessary. Personally, I like having everything under a user directory. I find it easier than remembering where the files are stored. Seems like a personal preference.
I had thought this through in advance and could see no advantage in not having my server and library united.
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OK, so now I am ready to use a send PC (and a 3rd?? if it's possible) as a client. (is that the right word?)
Can I install MC23 as a client on my old PC which still has the full library and is running MC20?? (leaving MC20 it as a backup for now)
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OK, so now I am ready to use a send PC (and a 3rd?? if it's possible) as a client. (is that the right word?)
Can I install MC23 as a client on my old PC which still has the full library and is running MC20?? (leaving MC20 it as a backup for now)
You can install MC23 on your old system and leave MC 20 installed. On MC20, you probably want to make sure nothing starts up at startup (Tools - Options - Startup - Windows Startup) so you are not running both at once. Your MC23 system should see MC20 and import all the settings and files. If not, stop the auto import and you can install the MC20 backup. You can use MC23 without doing using client/server by just moving any new music files from the new system to the old system and importing them. Using client/server means you only have to maintain one set of files and one library.
There are articles in the Wiki on Media Network and Media Server which might help. Both the systems need to be on your local network. You need to enable Media Network (Tools - Options - Media Network) on the new system and note the access key. Then on the client system, in the upper left of the tree under Playing Now - Playing From add a new library using the access key from the new system. When you select the server system, the client will load the library from the new system. At the top of Playing Now you can choose where the music will play - either on the old system (Player) or on the new system(There). On the client, in Media Network under Client - Audio set conversions to none. Otherwise it might convert to mp3.
If you have a Firewall running you may have to open up port 52199. How you do that depends on your Firewall.
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I noticed that one of the albums you were having trouble with was a Shostakovitch symphony album by the Boston Symphony under Andris Nelsons. So, I thought you might be interested in a review of his Eleventh done last night night for the first time by them. The concert will be released on Deutsche Grammophon.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2017/09/29/bso-continues-shostakovich-cycle-continues-with-eleventh/IHArzA3omAI69Ve58bTION/story.html
Very cool!
thanks
I am "trying" to sit out this season as concerts can be expensive. It becomes a trade off between concerts and new CD's.
It's harder than quitting smoking or drinking, at least for me. I did not attend this event last week. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/arts/music/new-york-philharmonic-jaap-van-zweden-philip-glass-mahler.html
:-[
and of course I am seemingly receiving mailers daily of upcoming events and calendars.... What a great season to be largely sitting out.
Last season I was fairly attentive, here is a post with highlights of my season last year.
https://www.audioaficionado.org/showpost.php?p=854162&postcount=156 (https://www.audioaficionado.org/showpost.php?p=854162&postcount=156)
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Enjoy the new system :)
I thought I was all done and set but I cant seem to get the client to load the main library.
When I enter the Access Code I get this.
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