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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 24 for Windows => Topic started by: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 03:40:05 am

Title: MQA and subtitles
Post by: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 03:40:05 am: I will upgrade to MC24 for sure, at least to support this great product which sells at reasonable price
Saying that, I am asking about
- MQA decoding?
- select subtitles somewhere else than OSD when in DLNA?
thanks much and keep on the great work
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: Hendrik on February 28, 2018, 03:41:43 am: Our stance towards MQA has not changed.
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: RD James on February 28, 2018, 07:40:59 am: Quote from: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 03:40:05 am
Saying that, I am asking about
- MQA decoding?
I don't work for JRiver, but they aren't going to license or work on reverse-engineering the format.
Once there is an open-source decoder, they might consider adding support.

I would say that your questions are better directed toward the companies trying to con you into buying a lossy closed-source high-res format when several very good and open-source lossless compression formats already exist.
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: Awesome Donkey on February 28, 2018, 08:19:50 am: I'd be highly surprised to see an open-source MQA decoder anytime soon. Even if one existed and JRiver (or another paid/commercial software application) added it, it's possible they could open themselves up to a lawsuit from Meridian for not licensing.

Quote from: RD James on February 28, 2018, 07:40:59 am
I would say that your questions are better directed toward the companies trying to con you into buying a lossy closed-source high-res format when several very good and open-source lossless compression formats already exist.

This. IMO, MQA is the best example of audiophile snake oil right now.
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 11:19:22 am: I basically agree with the opinions about MQA exposed here . I just wanted to better understand what the situation is now. thanks
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: pschelbert on February 28, 2018, 11:25:50 am: MQA is a clever rip-off to make money by degrading quality! And some people believe in it.

I am however a bit more clever than the marketing guys of MQA and recognized it as a pur joke and vodoo.

Peter
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: astromo on February 28, 2018, 02:36:55 pm: Quote from: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 03:40:05 am
I will upgrade to MC24 for sure, at least to support this great product which sells at reasonable price
Saying that, I am asking about
- MQA decoding?
- select subtitles somewhere else than OSD when in DLNA?
thanks much and keep on the great work

Don't forget that stanzani started out with two questions. The 2nd didn't get a response.

Posting a reply now gives me an MQA opportunity - I found this view posted by Jim Collinson of Linn to be a great, non-audiophile way of critiquing MQA:
https://www.linn.co.uk/blog/mqa-is-bad-for-music (https://www.linn.co.uk/blog/mqa-is-bad-for-music)
As is often the case, following the money provides considerable insight into the agenda. For homework, search out the pieces posted by Archimago where he reports on a global (thanks internet) ABX test.

EDIT:
This link looks interesting (I haven't read it yet ... I'm being demanded to show an appearance elsewhere) -
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/ (https://www.computeraudiophile.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/)
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: jb82 on March 03, 2018, 03:42:47 am: Quote from: Hendrik on February 28, 2018, 03:41:43 am
Our stance towards MQA has not changed.

Good to know.

I'd expressly request that you please do NOT spend ANY dev time on this nonsense. Very disappointing/sad to see Meridian do this on so many levels. It’s as though they sacked all their amazing engineers and recruited a bunch of MBAs to establish their technology strategy.
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: RoderickGI on March 04, 2018, 06:13:26 pm: Quote from: stanzani on February 28, 2018, 03:40:05 am
Saying that, I am asking about
- select subtitles somewhere else than OSD when in DLNA?

You raised this before. Did you try this;
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114469.msg792452.html#msg792452

See also;
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,113845.msg786814.html#msg786814

Plus search the forum for "Present Subtitle Resources".
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: stanzani on March 07, 2018, 09:28:25 am: yes I tried and looks ok
I was just asking for an easier way so the unexperienced user does not have to dig into the advanced DLNA options deeply buried in the setup
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: michael123 on March 07, 2018, 02:38:35 pm: For these unfamiliar with Archimago blog -
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: winterwolf on March 15, 2018, 07:41:24 pm: If I can play Master Files (MQA) in Tidal with MC and its WDM driver without sound artifacts, I will upgrade to MC24 in a heart-beat.

-- WW
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: JimH on March 15, 2018, 09:41:43 pm: MC doesn't support MQA.
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: winterwolf on March 15, 2018, 10:15:49 pm: Jim, you are correct and it is not needed since Tidal does the first unfolding for you (they support first level of MQA). What would be great if the output could be consumed by MC (24/96kHz) without artifacts (hissing and cracking noises). This way folks who like MQA can still use MC as the sound output/modulator. Best of both worlds :)
Title: Re: MQA and subtitles
Post by: torgny on March 16, 2018, 12:16:12 pm: My sentiments exactly // TG

Quote from: winterwolf on March 15, 2018, 10:15:49 pm
Jim, you are correct and it is not needed since Tidal does the first unfolding for you (they support first level of MQA). What would be great if the output could be consumed by MC (24/96kHz) without artifacts (hissing and cracking noises). This way folks who like MQA can still use MC as the sound output/modulator. Best of both worlds :)