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Title: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: reonb on April 02, 2019, 03:23:20 pm

Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files.  My decoder cannot accept anything higher than 24bit 192 KHz.  If I convert from DSF to FLAC 24 bit, I get files with higher bit rates which I cannot use.  In version 24 I could set the max bit rate.  This is a severe limitation for me in the new version.

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: swiv3d on April 02, 2019, 03:30:21 pm

Aren't the bitrates set using the apply dsp settings in the convert options popup - just like the always were? I could be wrong.

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: RD James on April 02, 2019, 03:34:38 pm

You need to set the sample rate in the Output Format DSP to downsample converted files.
This is inside the conversion options' DSP Settings.
 
Bit-rate is the amount of compression applied to lossy formats like MP3.

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: swiv3d on April 02, 2019, 03:36:55 pm

It is truly a shame that MC 25 is still calling the sample rate - the Bitrate in its very own tags!

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: RoderickGI on April 02, 2019, 08:28:27 pm

Quote from: swiv3d on April 02, 2019, 03:36:55 pm

It is truly a shame that MC 25 is still calling the sample rate - the Bitrate in its very own tags!

Umm, Sample Rate and Bitrate are two completely different things. I haven't seen MC confuse them anywhere.

I'm sure RD, or Google, could provide a definition for us.  ;)

Oh okay:
Sample Rate: 44.1KHz
Bit Depth: 16
Number of channels: 2
Theoretical Bitrate: 44100x16x2=1,411,200 Bit per second, usually expressed in Kilobits per second (Kbps), so 1378.125 Kbps.
Actual Bitrate: 224 in MC (Kbps) Hence, the file, a FLAC in this case, is compressed to a bit over 16% of its theoretical Bitrate, through lossless compression.


Am I wrong somewhere? I could be. Nah, that couldn't happen.  :P

EDIT: Oops. I forgot the number of channels!

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: swiv3d on April 02, 2019, 09:17:11 pm

Enough said.

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: RoderickGI on April 02, 2019, 10:01:46 pm

Oh, I see. The OP said "Bit Rate" and then referred to the "Sample Rate".

Fair enough.  ;D

No hang on, you then referred to setting Bitrates in DSP, which RD duly corrected by pointing out that it is Sample Rate that you can set in DSP.

Now you are just trying to confuse me. Does a picture win the discussion?

Here's mine.

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: swiv3d on April 04, 2019, 09:30:59 am

Fishing in this pond is too easy! ;D

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: RoderickGI on April 04, 2019, 03:49:05 pm

Oh snap.

I always think someone is on the up and up, until they prove otherwise, because you know some users will argue black is white and red is green, regardless of being colour blind.

So you can go and sit in the naughty corner now!  :P

Title: Re: Version 25 does not have the ability to set the max bit rate if I convert Files
Post by: swiv3d on April 04, 2019, 03:52:51 pm

How did you deduce that I was colour blind - you are as always totally amazing. I was just using the OP's terminology in trying to point him in the correct direction but couldn't resist the naughty step option!