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Title: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dkan24 on May 03, 2003, 01:13:35 pm
Using ASIO on MC 9.0.164 there is a terible buzzing sound whenever I do certain things.  

This includes switching songs, and in Hairstyle mode doing everything.  

This is a serious drawback to using MC.  My amps and speakers are suffering greatly.  
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: DocLotus on May 03, 2003, 02:09:20 pm
Hi dkan24;

Welcome to Interact Forum.

You're going to love this site... good people & great help.

Now back to you problem...

Need to know what sound card your are using.

Also which ASIO driver are you using?

Some older version of kXProject driver (if that is what you are using) did some strange things, but the last two versions have been pretty good.

Also certain sound cards acted up with earlier kXProject drivers.

I know the Creative SoundBlaster Live & Audigy II had a problem but was cleared up in the last two releases of kXProject Driver.
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dkan24 on May 03, 2003, 02:20:54 pm
Hi,

Thanks for the welcome. I am using a Delta 410.  I have never head any problems with winamp.  Where do I find what ASIO driver I am using.  I did not download it.  It was just built into MC9.  
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: DocLotus on May 04, 2003, 07:50:47 am
kXProject ASIO driver can be found at...
http://kxproject.spb.ru/index.php?skip=1

Your sound card must meet the following conditions for the kX driver to work...

"The kX Audio Driver is an independent WDM (Windows Driver Model) driver for all EMU10K1 and EMU10K2-based soundcards manufactured by Creative Technology Ltd. and/or E-mu Systems Inc., including the SoundBlaster Live! series, the E-mu Audio Production Studio (APS) card, and the Audigy series of cards."

Also check out the kXProject FAQ page for details on which sound cards work & other details...
http://kxproject.spb.ru/faq.php?language=en#Q15
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dkan24 on May 04, 2003, 01:10:40 pm
I do not have a SB card so I do not think that driver is going to help.  

Has anyone else experienced this?  It is not really a buzz.  It is more like a "errrrrrrrrrrrrr" sound.  It happens when I switch between tracks.

It has made MC9 basically unusable.  I do not want to ruin my equipment.  

I will try upgrading to the newest build and see if it changes anything.  

edit- just upgraded to 9.0.168 and I think it might be worse.  Whenever I switch tracks using the FF button, it makes a terrible sound in between.  It is short, but very noticeable.  

I am running WinXP.   Can it be that Winamp's ASIO driver is interfering?  I have never run both programs at the same time however.  I checked and there are no other processes running that use the sound card.  
Title: ASIO issues
Post by: dkan24 on May 04, 2003, 01:24:19 pm
Another ASIO issue:

I cannot play 2 zones at once.  ASIO does not allow 2 different programs to access the souncard at the same time.

Has anyone successfully set up 2 zones using a Delta 410 (playing at the same time) and ASIO?  
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dkan24 on May 04, 2003, 01:30:24 pm
The noise only comes when the track is buffering.  Under Direct Sound, there is no noise, but under ASIO, there is the buzzing sound.  
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: phelt on May 04, 2003, 01:47:31 pm
Have you tried adjusting the buffering setting in Media Center?
Tools > Options > Playback > Output > Settings...

I had some problems with ASIO playback. Sliding the buffering bar all the way to the right (More Responsive) and some tinkering with my card's ASIO buffering settings cleared up the problems.

A robust explanation of MC's ASIO strategy would be nice. Samples/buffer, that sort of thing... Hopefully this will find its way into the help file at some point.
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dragyn on May 04, 2003, 03:52:15 pm
I get the same thing using ASIO on 2 different PC/Sound Cards and it happens while buffering.



Sound Blaster Live!
kX Audio Driver, kX Mixer  (Debug)
Copyright © Eugene Gavrilov, 2001-2003.
All Rights Reserved
Version: 5, 10, 00, 3532 - debug
Compiled: Apr 30 2003 02:36:06

Media Center Registered 9.0.168 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 805 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 33 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: TEAC     CD-W54E            Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None



M-Audio Audiophile 24/96
Driver: 5.10.00.0027

Media Center Registered 9.0.168 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Celeron 497 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 129 MB, Free - 50 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: DocLotus on May 04, 2003, 06:10:25 pm
Do you guys have DSP Studio set up correctly.  This has a big impact on ASIO quality.

* Select Player/Player Options/DSP Studio.
* Check Output Gain box.
* Select Sample Rate 48,000 HZ.

If 44,100 HZ is currently checked you will hear distorted sound on playback
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: dragyn on May 05, 2003, 01:49:16 am
Mine is set at 48,000. It only happens when MC displays 'buffering...'.

On my 24/96, DSP studio works for everything except environment. It's big time choppy when used. The others work just fine.

Also, when using hibernation, I found out it doesn't like ASIO. That's what's causing MC to stall when coming back, it will say "buffering..." forever. Starting another track will not fix it. Have to 'stop', then 'play'.
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: salsbst1 on May 05, 2003, 06:05:43 am
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Do you guys have DSP Studio set up correctly.  This has a big impact on ASIO quality.

* Select Player/Player Options/DSP Studio.
* Check Output Gain box.
* Select Sample Rate 48,000 HZ.

If 44,100 HZ is currently checked you will hear distorted sound on playback


I thought that people could upsample to 88,200 Hz with MC and a Delta 410 and ASIO?  And now I hear that you can't even leave the rate at 44,100 Hz?
Title: Re: ASIO Buzzing
Post by: Matt on May 05, 2003, 06:52:39 am
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If 44,100 HZ is currently checked you will hear distorted sound on playback


That isn't true.  All sample rates work fine.  If your card can only run its clock at certain speeds, you'll obviously have to use one of these or it won't work.

And I can't reproduce this -- my M-Audio is working as expected.  Do DSP or other settings make any difference?

Thanks.