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Title: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: imeric on January 22, 2020, 03:03:00 pm
If I choose Internal Volume and listen to Bitstreamed DSD files the volume stays at 100%.
I'm using the ASIO output with an iFi nano dac and it has its own Zone.
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: RD James on January 22, 2020, 05:08:21 pm
This is a feature the DAC and its driver have to explicitly support.
Very few DACs do, and I believe most of ifi's DACs use analog volume control - which would be incompatible with such a feature.
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: imeric on January 22, 2020, 05:14:03 pm
I'm fairly sure it worked before with this same DAC... I have two other DACs supporting Native DSD bitstream I'll do some more tests and post back...
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: dtc on January 22, 2020, 05:23:21 pm
IFI would have to enable that feature in the driver. Chances are very high that they did not. I think only one manufacturer did that. I would have too look back to figure out who it was, but  I do not think it was IFI.  The volume control would actually happen in the DAC, after the DSD was converted.  Nobody does volume control on the DSD signal itself.
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: imeric on January 22, 2020, 06:48:56 pm
IFI would have to enable that feature in the driver. Chances are very high that they did not. I think only one manufacturer did that. I would have too look back to figure out who it was, but  I do not think it was IFI.  The volume control would actually happen in the DAC, after the DSD was converted.  Nobody does volume control on the DSD signal itself.

After doing a few tests on my ADL Stratos and Exasound DAC that makes total sense..Should have thought of it, there's no way for MC to tamper with the volume on a DSD Bitsream...
My Exasound DAC does it as it changes the digital volume of the DAC itself with an Exasound plugin for JRiver. Which is why I assumed other native DSD capable DACs would do it as well...

Thx!
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: dtc on January 22, 2020, 06:51:36 pm
Yes, Exasound was the one who did the plugin. Nice feature, but nobody else did it as far as I know.
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: kr4 on January 22, 2020, 08:56:56 pm
Yes, Exasound was the one who did the plugin. Nice feature, but nobody else did it as far as I know.
And they have a new version of the plugin which is necessary for v26.  (I just found out the hard way.)
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: imeric on January 22, 2020, 09:25:15 pm
I'm usually the one letting them (George) know a new MC version is on the way :)...

He told me the new plugin should be good for all upcoming versions of MC!
Title: Re: Enable Volume when bitstreaming not working?
Post by: dtc on January 23, 2020, 07:00:10 am
Since this feature only works with Exabyte, the option should probably say that. New users sometimes think it is a general option and think it just does not work.