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Title: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 04, 2003, 10:17:40 am
After few songs ,MC just rebot my computer.
And few thousands songs are missing from my library.
I have to re-import them.
The last build i used was not working well at this level,but this one even worse.
All songs MP3 , rebot after around 15-25 songs


Media Center Registered 9.0.143 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
AMD Athlon 1678 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 128 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.6144wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.60 (1021)

Ripping /   Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:ASPI   Read speed:Max
 Drive I:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:ASPI   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: No /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\Media\knock.wav

Burning /  Drive I: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-W4012A   Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None


Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: peterH on April 04, 2003, 10:38:09 am
Works for me - at least I got way past 25 songs - i'll leave it running to see if it reboots later.


Media Center Registered 9.0.143 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Unknown 996 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 471 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.6144 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive D: SAMSUNG  CDRW/DVD SN-308B   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 04, 2003, 10:56:12 am
I did a lot of Analyse Audio last week.
On ogg from my cds , it was fine.
Since starting on MP3 ,the problem is here
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: peterH on April 04, 2003, 11:03:21 am
I have a mix of mostly WMA and some MP3
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 04, 2003, 11:07:24 am
I tested now with  only mp3 from Emusic.
The same problem.
Look like the mp3 are not in cause
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 04, 2003, 11:09:02 am
Why do you use VMA ?
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: peterH on April 04, 2003, 11:21:57 am
No very scientific reason, seemed a good (subjective?) quality/compression ratio
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: Bartabedian on April 04, 2003, 11:22:12 am
This has been a problem for quite some time, I actually gave up on trying to analyze my files over a month ago because of the mystery memory leak\corrupt file problem. I guess it's still there. Probably still a memory leak in the analyze audio function causing overload on your system. I never found rhyme or reason to it and analyzing just became a huge hassle. Sure wish it'd get fixed though.


Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 04, 2003, 11:30:18 am
You are right, the problem is not new.
Arund a month ago i left few times MC analysing over night.
In th morning i found that MC had close.
But ,in fact ,MC just reboted the computer.
In another hand ,as far as i can see ,memory use stay 'at normal level'
But ,even like it ,my computer is VERY slow when i analyse audio.
Sure they will fix it.
I do not think the final release can have this problem

PeterH
-=-=No very scientific reason, seemed a good (subjective?) quality/compression ratio -=-=

This is a very good reason EVEN if subjective.
Maybe even more if subjective
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: Marty3d on April 04, 2003, 03:23:06 pm
Maybe you should put this as a show stopper?
Honestly, I've given up trying analyzing the files because of the neverending story of mem leaking :( Unfortunately, this was one of the features that made me buy MJ8 :)
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: fex on April 04, 2003, 04:31:59 pm
Same problem. So I started to analyze the files by 300 after another 300. This is the max I got trough without problems. Analyzing more ended almost everytime in memory leaks. And I think 246 MB free is not to less.

Not really a stopper, but annoying.

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Media Center Registered 9.0.143 -- C:\Programme\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1999 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 246 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   chord.wav

Burning /  Drive G: YAMAHA   CRW-F1E            Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:10  MaxSpeed:44  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: scub on April 04, 2003, 06:10:34 pm
You know I had the same problem when running Windows 2000 Professional SP3 and I tried a different computer with Windows 2000 Advanced Server SP3 and I got through 4000 files with no errors.  On the other computer I was lucky to get 100 done before I got the memory leak.
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 05, 2003, 04:00:52 am
not sure MC is the cause .
Look like my computer needs some settings to stand  the extreme heat we have since 3 days
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: Azure on April 09, 2003, 06:05:41 am
I was having this same problem.  Bothered me especially when I tried to do my massive collection 200 files at a time.  Up until the update, I've had 2 comptuers doing blocks of 200.  It was pretty tedious.

With the latest update (144?), it appears to be fixed.  I went through about 600 files (MP3, OGG, WMA) straight last night without a crash.  
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: zevele10 on April 11, 2003, 06:27:55 am
Still not working well.
Few days before the official release ,look like aproblem.
And ,no ,it is not my computer
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: salsbst1 on April 11, 2003, 07:21:46 am
I've had no trouble with MP3s and APEs in my collection.

I'm not at the machine so I can't post detailed sys info, but here are the highlights:

Win2k Server, SP3 w/IE6, DirectX9, lots of programming tools, and almost current (like a week behind) w/Windows Update
Pentium Xeon 1.7GHz, 512MB RAM

I find it intersting that two of us who are on a server edition of Win2k are not experiencing the problem.
Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: GHammer on April 12, 2003, 03:45:20 am
Actually the analyze function is not very good.
It does not report correctly.
For instance, an incomplete final frame is not the end of the world for an MP3 file. Yet the analyze function will show this as a bad file. Same for a missing first frame. Again, the sound can be great, no other missing/bad frames and the song will be shown to be bad.
On the other hand, if the music is so loud that it clips, the file can still be shown as 'good'.

Not a real useful tool to me. the free version of EncSpot does a better job of showing the quality of a file, and the free version of mp3Trim will show the structural errors AND be able to correct them.

Maybe I'm just missing something...

Title: Re: Big problem with Analyse Audio
Post by: Jonas on April 14, 2003, 06:13:03 am
I'm having problems with the analysis function too.  Even with the latest versions (147/148) it still crashes now and then (very annoying when it crashes 15 minutes after you go to bed).

I moved it from a Win2K computer to a WinXP laptop but the last two nights it still crashed.  Once MC just disappeared without a trace, the other time I got the Microsoft "program crashed, send error report y/n" dialog.