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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 27 for Mac => Topic started by: JimH on December 15, 2020, 05:57:53 pm

Title: Naming for processors
Post by: JimH on December 15, 2020, 05:57:53 pm
Since "Silicon" is what any CPU is made of, what should we call the new builds?  Intel and Apple?  or Intel and ARM?
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: wer on December 15, 2020, 06:42:55 pm
The same sort of nomenclature multi-platform OS's use:

Windows on Intel
Windows on ARM
MacOS on Intel
MacOS on ARM
Etc etc

Or MC for Intel-based Macs, for MC for ARM-based Macs if you don't want to mention the OS.

Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: zybex on December 16, 2020, 12:00:04 am
This being Apple, you could call it an ARM and a Leg  ;D

Don't they support fat binaries?
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: Awesome Donkey on December 16, 2020, 03:32:10 am
Why not keep it simple and straightforward for macOS; Intel and Apple Silicon, since everybody at this point should surely know what both are, that's their official names and it clearly identifies both.
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: JimH on December 19, 2020, 07:47:41 am
Why not keep it simple and straightforward for macOS; Intel and Apple Silicon, since everybody at this point should surely know what both are, that's their official names and it clearly identifies both.
Why not Intel Silicon and Apple Silicon, then?  I think it's wrong for Apple to claim "Silicon" as their mark.  It's an ARM processor, just as Intel's processors are Intel processors.

Just Apple or Apple ARM seem most appropriate.
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: JimH on December 19, 2020, 08:02:28 am
Which is more or less what wer suggessted.

Windows on Intel
Windows on ARM
MacOS on Intel
MacOS on ARM
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: Awesome Donkey on December 19, 2020, 08:15:37 am
Well, I don't think Intel refers to their CPUs by name as Silicon. For better or for worse Apple decided to name their CPUs Apple Silicon (which I think is a lame name, but I digress), and that's what potential users are going to know them as.

For Intel-based Macs using something like Intel Core or Intel Core i-Series would suffice, but there's so many different SKUs and naming for Intel CPUs that it could get confusing too, though as far as I know all Intel-based Macs are Core i-somethings.

The complicated part is on Windows and Linux where if you call the x86 and x86_64 versions Intel, people with AMD CPUs would get confused, and then there's the whole 32-bit and 64-bit stuff that complicates it more (it shouldn't be an issue with newer macOS versions as it's 64-bit only). Leaving it them as-is on Windows and Linux and only adding ARM (e.g. ARM 32-bit and ARM 64-bit) when running MC on ARM could work too.
Title: Re: Naming for processors
Post by: Manfred on December 19, 2020, 09:02:26 am
I would stay with Apple Silicon hardware because else you will get the "silly" question: Is this Apple M1 or Apple Silicon?

rme also does use the name Apple Silicon:

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=31781 (https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=31781)