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Title: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Matt on March 28, 2003, 01:56:59 pm
Media Center 9.0.137 beta is available.        
     
Some things may not work.  If that worries you, please wait until Media Center is out of beta.

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter90137.exe

9.0.137
1. Fixed: Selecting some Media Library items would cause the cursor to jump back to Media Library.

9.0.136
1. Fixed: Could not drag a playlist around in the tree without first clicking on it. (required an extra click)
2. Fixed: Operations that changed the filename of a file did not work properly. (file would not be moved, tagging would fail, etc.)
3. Fixed: MC could not move data files or files where tagging failed.
4. Changed: Added confirmation dialog before removing empty directories after a file move.
5. Fixed: "My Computer" folder drag-n-drop was not working properly.
6. Fixed: After cancelling a recycle folder in "My Computer", the folder would still be removed from the tree.
7. Changed: Search wizard won't fight with search terms there aren't wizards for. (like volume=, filename=, etc.)
8. Fixed: MC wouldn't allow a smartlist to be cleared of all its rules and still be saved.
9. Changed: Search wizard trims trailing "or" pieces when removing a token.
10. Changed: MC now uses the number search wizard for percentage fields.
11. Changed: Added examples for sorting and duplicates search wizard boxes.
12. Fixed: Improved "View Filter" handling of complicated filtering systems.
13. Fixed: Sticky view Sorting was not working in several places. (My Computer, etc.)
14. Fixed: Media Center was ignoring username and password info in a URL.
15. Fixed: NetSwitcher software could cause Media Center license to expire.
16. Fixed: Media Center did not save network passwords.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ZRocker on March 28, 2003, 02:19:31 pm
Suggestion:
How about hiding the Playlists list in File Properties if nothing is selected...like File Info is hidden?

It is too easy to go 'what happened' now that highlighting an Org Tree node does not automatically assume everything in Content View is selected.  This visual reminder that nothing is selected (in Content View) and that's why no Playlists are showing (in File Properties) would help (too...as it does for File Info).

Bugs:
1. You can not update tags in file properties if all you want to do is truncate (remove the last portion) a current field's value...because MC always puts the original value back in the field when you hit [Tab].  If you hit [Enter] it works, but using [Tab] does not.  Try changing the Album name field for any MP3 and just remove the last word/letter in the title and press [Tab]...the original name will be restored.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: RemyJ on March 28, 2003, 05:16:55 pm
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: rocketsauce on March 28, 2003, 05:58:48 pm
Installing updates resets the Menu Bar buttons to the default.

Still having a hard time figuring out how sticky views is supposed to be better than how sorting worked before sticky views was implemented.

Also, sorting just seems to be acting odd. Appears to sort albums by track # when there is only one album for an artist, but not always...sometimes tracks appear in random order. When there are multiple albums for an artist, the tracks seem to be grouped by album name but not in chronological or alphabetical order.

Rob
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Marko on March 28, 2003, 10:10:18 pm
Bug: When changing channels via the right-click menu, the channel info (above the play button) is not updated. (start watching channel 10, right click screen, change to channel 2. Player control still says 10, and clicking 'next' moves to channel 11, not 3)

Much Bigger Bug
I cannot access my disc drives in this build either. All the same errors as before.
MC correctly shows the cd in 'My Computer' and 'cd,dvd,handhelds' in the tree, just can't actually do anything with the files. I've tried everything I can think of to get this working, and failed.


Bug - or by design?
I uninstall before upgrading. The first thing I do is run through the options panel. I start @ the top and work down. Eventually, I arrive at the encoding options. I choose mp3 for my cd ripping and MC throws a dialogue about 'go getting the plugin'. In a few seconds, I get a box informing the plugin was installed correctly. As soon as I click OK to this message, MC shuts down. Then, when I go back into options, none of the settings I'd made before arriving @ encoding options have been saved. I have to start all over again. It's been like this a while now so I'm wise to it and do the mp3 plugin 1st, wait for the shutdown, then do the rest. Gotta tell you though, it's either one extremely irritating lil' bug, or if by design and MC needs to restart, can't it wait till the options box is closed, saved the settings made, then inform the user that it needs to restart to finish installing the plugin?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: JNKH on March 29, 2003, 01:09:54 am
Hi Matt,

The TOOL Menu now appears after 15 secs.  The rest of the menu items appears immediately.  But the TOOL menu will take about 15 secs to appear.

The v133 release did not have this problem.  
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: DocLotus on March 29, 2003, 01:43:10 am
BUG...
DSP 5.1 Channels no loger works.  When selected & a song is played the processor usage goes through the roof.

BUG...
When using ASIO & playing a song, the volume control is very jerky & causes clicks with each jerk.  Don't know if this is a MC9 problem or a kXProject driver problem but all other sound sources (with the kX driver in use) does not have this problem.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Cmagic on March 29, 2003, 01:53:04 am
Dear Matt,

Thanks for the new builds.

problem with 9.0137 so far :
- Can't use CD playback and ripping (gave details to JohnT)
- Customs fields (Composer, etc...) can't be displayed in visualisation studio and track info
- It used to be possible to get statistics for a whole tree node data by just clicking on it. For example clicking on Media Lib/audio would give statistics for the entire audio data. Now it seems you have to explicitly select the data (Crtl-A in that case).

thanks,

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\MediaCenter\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1199 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 589 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpclient.010817-1148) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 (xpclient.010817-1148) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive X:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive Y:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\tada.wav

Burning /  Drive Y: SONY     CD-RW  CRX195E4    Addr: 2:1:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 29, 2003, 02:25:10 am
BUGS
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 29, 2003, 02:57:42 am
BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: MachineHead on March 29, 2003, 02:58:04 am
Quote
Still having a hard time figuring out how sticky views is supposed to be better than how sorting worked before sticky views was implemented.

Also, sorting just seems to be acting odd. Appears to sort albums by track # when there is only one album for an artist, but not always...sometimes tracks appear in random order. When there are multiple albums for an artist, the tracks seem to be grouped by album name but not in chronological or alphabetical order.


I'm getting some goofy things like this also. So far, when I install a new build I have to re-sort the columns. Happened with the last 3-4 builds or so. Installing over previous builds when this happens.

Minor Flaws:

Gridlines are not aligned with column tabs.

Re-sizing file properties when in windowed mode doesn't change cursor to indicate re-sizing is available.

NOTE: This build is much faster than the last couple in regards to loading a song for playing.

Listening to: 'Walkin' On The Sun' from 'Fush Yu Mang' by 'Smash Mouth' on Media Center 9.0
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: JimH on March 29, 2003, 03:35:53 am
Quote

Gridlines are not aligned with column tabs.

Mike,
Can you start a new thread on this?  I think it's a video driver problem.  Post a screenshot if you can or e-mail me one and I'll post it.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 29, 2003, 03:46:00 am
Aww, I been trimmed   ;D

BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 29, 2003, 03:50:27 am
BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ZRocker on March 29, 2003, 04:15:55 am
Comment:
I'm with the crowd that liked selecting a node in the Org tree and having MC assume everything in the Content window was selected (for File Info, Statistics, Delete, etc.)...like Windows Explorer does.  If non-standard support is really needed for this can we please, please have an option and let the user decide how they want it?

Update:
I do not feel this is a new request...just saying the old way MJ 7 & 8 and earlier versions of MC 9 worked was just fine (logical and Windows standard), in my opinion
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ChicoSelfs on March 29, 2003, 04:34:33 am
In DSP studio if we change the output format to 4.1 channels the information is not saved but only the 2 channels. the 5.1 channels output works and keeps saved
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 29, 2003, 04:58:36 am
Zrocker - In explorer, if you delete the files, they're still sitting in your recycle bin waiting to be restored if it was an accident.
With MJ there's hours of tagging info put into all the files, much of which is stored only within the db. If the files are deleted from the db it's all lost. The info is far more delicate then simple file names or even just re-getting the files.
I do agree on it showing the summarised info for the Statistics page though :) This is non destructive :)

BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: 5TillFree on March 29, 2003, 05:13:38 am
;D Yahoo! I can finally rip to WMA again! Nice new look & icons! Keep up the good work. No negatives to report at this time ;D
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ZRocker on March 29, 2003, 05:35:08 am
Nila,

I'm fully aware of everything you said...my point, let me choose my fate...in 3+ years of MJ/MC use, I've never accidently mass deleted or edited anything (so, I'm not worried about making a mistake...if I did, I'd still not be upset).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: JimH on March 29, 2003, 05:56:37 am
Nila, Z, and anyone else interested,
If you want to discuss how the selection should act (and it's probably a good idea to do so), please start a new thread.  I'm going to remove these comments from this thread so we can focus on the bugs.

Any other feature requests will also be removed.  It's show time.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ZRocker on March 29, 2003, 06:21:36 am
Bugs:
1. Those delayed tag updates or file moves of a currently playing track are not working.  MC's seems to be waiting always until  you exit MC to update the tag or move the file (if it was playing when the update was attempted).  MC is not attempting the update after it stops playing...so, it's easy to ambush MC if you leave MC running for hours/days and do the update or file move or file rename again any time within that period.  I seem to remember reading (from Matt) that the updates would happen after the track stopped playing...not happening.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: dragyn on March 29, 2003, 07:46:19 am
I reformated this computer (again). There was some file access problem with explorer but my thumbnail problem went away (not creating thumbnails).

When doing a search, like in Artist/Album, it jumps to Media Library and you lose focus when you're typing and have to retype it. It didn't use to do this. Also noticed when viewing a lot of files and trying to search, it takes forever when typing because it keeps searching after a couple letters. I'm not a fast typer.

I noticed those cool looking arrows that shows the order when using skins. Well, there are 2 minor problems:View Filter isn't hiding tree items that are hidden from the main view pane.

Lastplayed is not setting the seconds right. When it's halfway through, it starts it then instead of half the file earlier. Like if the file was 10mins long and half way through, it will say lastplayed 0secs ago instead of 5mins ago.

When pasting from the clipboard into the search box using the right click menu, it will not get pasted unless you first left click the box.

Edit toolbar button doesn't edit the correct field when using it. It defaults to "Name". Same thing happens with F2. If you right click on the field first, then the toolbar button and F2 go to that field only. Well if right-clicking is the only way to change fields, then those 2 things are useless as the edit field is already in the menu.

Using a ~sort in a view scheme group has precedence over a view scheme. I think it should be the other way around as I have view schemes with sort orders but want the group to be sorted only when viewing it. This may solve the problem of accessing media files first, then the search criteria instead search criteria, then media types. I've had slowdown with lots of images and few audio files when only searching audio files.

Renaming or moving a view scheme loses columns (changes back to default view).

'Album group if logical' isn't adding the correct files to playing now if there are multiple albums of different file types (ape, apl, mp3). It adds them all. ape isn't even in the view scheme to begin with yet it manages to get in there.

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 805 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 54 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: TEAC     CD-W54E            Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: aussie1 on March 29, 2003, 08:38:21 am
Test File Properties Editing Scenario #1

1. Import a file into MC.  In the format display, all tags display correctly:

MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement
  Artist: John Coltrane
  Album: Love Supreme
  Year: 1964
  Comment:
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (12439 bytes)
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 COMM (Styles): test styles
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
  APIC: <unknown data type>
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): John Coltrane
 TPE2 (Band/orchestra/accompa..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TYER (Year): 1964
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 COMM (Comments): <too large to display>


Problem #1: Artist field in the database is populated with &#8220;Coltrane Orchestra&#8221; (TPE2). It should be populated with &#8220;John Coltrane&#8221; (TPE1)

Note: When I play this track using the &#8220;simply lyrics&#8221; track info page and click on comments, it correctly displays all of the text from the comment in the ID3V2 tag.


Test #1: I edit the properties and change the &#8220;Styles&#8221; field (a custom field) from &#8220;test styles&#8221; to &#8220;new styles&#8221;.  MC writes the tag.  Now the format looks like the following:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement
  Artist: Coltrane Orchestra
  Album: Love Supreme
  Year: 1964
  Comment: Easily one of the most impor
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (4126 bytes)
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Styles): new styles
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 TYER (Year): 1964
 COMM (Comments): <too large to display>


Notice the changes and lost tags?

Problem #2: Originally, the Comment field in the ID3v1 tag was blank. Now it contains the first 28 characters from the comment that was in the ID3v2 tag.

Problem #3: TPE1 changed from &#8220;John Coltrane&#8221; to &#8220;Coltrane Orchestra&#8221;.  (This reflects the improper import listed in problem #1)

Problem #4: Data in TPE2 is lost



Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 75 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 325 MB, Free - 133 MB

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: aussie1 on March 29, 2003, 08:39:25 am
Test File Properties Editing Scenario #2: Same scenario as before, except the comment field in the ID3V1 tag contains 28 characters of data on import.

1. Import a file into MC.  In the format display, all tags display correctly:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement
  Artist: John Coltrane
  Album: Love Supreme
  Year: 1964
  Comment: Easily one of the most impor
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (12439 bytes)
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 COMM (Styles): test styles
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
  APIC: <unknown data type>
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): John Coltrane
 TPE2 (Band/orchestra/accompa..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TYER (Year): 1964
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 COMM (Comments): <too large to display>


Problem #5: When I play this track using the &#8220;simply lyrics&#8221; track info page and click on comments, it displays the text from the comment in the ID3V1 tag. This is 28 characters. The comment in the ID3V2 tag is much longer. It such be displayed as default.


Test #2: I edit the properties and change the &#8220;Styles&#8221; field (a custom field) from &#8220;test styles&#8221; to &#8220;new styles&#8221;.  MC writes the tag.  Now the format looks like the following


MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement
  Artist: Coltrane Orchestra
  Album: Love Supreme
  Year: 1964
  Comment: Easily one of the most impor
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (2078 bytes)
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Styles): new styles
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 TYER (Year): 1964
 COMM (Comments): Easily one of the most impor


Problem #6: The text in the comment field in the ID3V2 was truncated. Basically, it was replaced with the data from the comment field in the ID3V1 tag.



Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 356 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 325 MB, Free - 136 MB

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: aussie1 on March 29, 2003, 08:42:46 am
Test File Properties Editing Scenario #3: The previous result made curious what happens when ID3V1 and ID3V2 tags contain different data.

1. Import a file into MC.  In the format display, all tags display correctly. Notice that Name, Artist, and Album are different in V1 than V2:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement T1
  Artist: John Coltrane T1
  Album: Love Supreme T1
  Year: 1964
  Comment:
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (12439 bytes)
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 COMM (Styles): new styles
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
  APIC: <unknown data type>
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): John Coltrane
 TPE2 (Band/orchestra/accompa..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TYER (Year): 1964
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 COMM (Comments): <too large to display>


MC populated the database with the data from the V2 tag with same problems I listed in test scenario #1.  This means that you give priority to the V2 tags, which is good.


Test #3: I edit the properties and change the &#8220;Styles&#8221; field (a custom field) from &#8220;new styles&#8221; to &#8220;third try&#8221;.  MC writes the tag.  Now the format looks like the following

MPEG-1 Layer 3
192 Kbit CBR
44.1 Khz Stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
  Name: Acknowledgement
  Artist: Coltrane Orchestra
  Album: Love Supreme
  Year: 1964
  Comment: Easily one of the most impor
  Track #: 1
  Genre: Jazz (8)

ID3v2 Tag: (4126 bytes)
 TPE3 (Conductor/performer re..): Coltrane Conductor
 TPUB (Publisher): Test Publisher
 COMM (Tool Name): Media Center
 COMM (Tool Version): 9.0.137
 COMM (Styles): third try
 TCOM (Composer): Coltrane
 COMM (Keywords): this is it
 TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): Coltrane Orchestra
 TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1
 TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Love Supreme
 TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Acknowledgement
 TCON (Content type): Jazz
 TYER (Year): 1964
 COMM (Comments): <too large to display>

Problem #7:  Notice that the ID3V1 tag was completely changed. All data lost. I suppose we could debate whether or not this is truly a problem. But must tag editor programs allow users to edit V21 and V2 tags separately. There are cases where someone would want them tags to be different.



Observation: If I edit a file property, MC completely rewrites the entire tag rather than changing only the field that was edited. I&#8217;m sure your code is simpler this way. But it seems to cause problems.




Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 76 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 325 MB, Free - 136 MB

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Markeau on March 29, 2003, 10:36:49 am

When rip+encoding when a track is finished my mouse pointer freezes for a second or few seconds, I guess that is when the filename is being written and temp file being deleted(?), etc.  I'm a power user and don't see that behavior with any other app.  


Never mind for some reason that problem seems to have gone away.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: dougc on March 29, 2003, 11:36:55 am
-Right click context menus no longer allows actions to be selected with a second right click.  You have to left click to get an action to take place.  This is different than the way context menus work everywhere else in Windows.

-The top menu items of the right click menu in the track list should not be constantly changing (even bringing up About or System Info shuffles it).  This is unusable.   At least Play and Add to Playing Now should be locked at the top of that menu as I believe they were in previous versions.

-The volume control slider manipulates the system default sound device even though the current output zone is using a secondary sound device.  I and others have repeatedly reported this problem with no acknowledgment.  If it's not going to be fixed please let us know and we'll stop wasting keystrokes on it.

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1992 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 654 MB, Free - 359 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive G:          RW-201040          Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:20  MaxSpeed:20  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: MachineHead on March 29, 2003, 12:48:01 pm
Ripping a cd shows 'old' blue icon in the taskbar.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on March 29, 2003, 01:09:55 pm
When burning:
Having "Decode directly to CD" selected results in inaccurate track splitting. Not a problem when it's NOT checked.
At the end of any burn with "eject CD" selected, the burn goes well and the CD ejects but MC then crashes with a CDWriter.ocx error.

Download Manager:
Having "Import Downloaded" selected, it still doesn't happen. The KB/S meter works as far as the number goes but the colored indicator doesn't move.

Convert:
I still can't rip or convert from/to anything but ape and wav. I haven't tried to convert from MP3 to ape or wav but I assume it works because I can burn CD's from MP3's.
As no one else has this problem, it must be my machine.

These are last-minute reminders of trivialities only --- On With the Show!

CVIII
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Dopas on March 29, 2003, 01:16:48 pm
New bug in 9.0.137:
File Properties ... on a folder  in the Media Library doesn't show the File Info for multiple files anymore. This is preventing setting file properties for multiple files in the Media Library.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Markeau on March 29, 2003, 01:31:27 pm
When ripping and YADB does not find a cd in its db:

After filling out the artist/track, etc, info and successfully submitting it, a dialog appears saying the cd could not be found in the YADB db; but, an immediate "Update from CD Database" does find it.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: FrankL on March 29, 2003, 01:53:44 pm
For image files the MJMD Tag does not survive when edited in Adobe Photoshop.  Adobe Photoshop just deletes the MJMD Tag.  

Maybe the MJMD Tag could be altered in some way to look like a EXIF Tag so that Photoshop does not delete it.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Rands on March 29, 2003, 02:32:06 pm
The del key doesn't seem to work to remove files from the library or playlists.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Rands on March 29, 2003, 03:38:29 pm
Maybe it's just me but burning a CD eats up nearly all of my CPU, an issue that exists only in MC.

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1730 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 681 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-W4012A   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Spiffy on March 29, 2003, 09:21:17 pm
UPDATED: I removed the Q815411 patch that was supposed to fix the problem in Windows XP SP1 about applications slowing down due to poor allocation of memory and everything is now working just fine again. You guys might want to keep an eye out for anyone running this patch.

When any MPC is playing, any action such a pull down menu, selecting another song, or other action immediately causes MC to die.

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 191 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 129 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive D: TOSHIBA  DVD-ROM SD-R2002   Addr: 2:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: michel on March 29, 2003, 10:06:07 pm
Importing XML file (.mpl) with ISO-Latin characters results in wrong characters into the library (é instead of é for example).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 30, 2003, 01:48:26 am
Dougc,
The right click menu has it's 3 top items adjusting to the last 3 commands used. Each time you use a command it remembers which you used last and saves it to the top of the menu. It's similar to the Windows XP start menu where it remembers the last used programs.

If you are doing a lot of tagging this means that your tagging tools will be one click away - great. If your going through your songs playing them as you seem to be, then it will remember this and show the 3 play commands you used most at the top so they're where you want them.
It means it's adapting to whatever task your doing so that that task is easier and faster. It's amazing once you get used to it.


BUG
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: michel on March 30, 2003, 02:29:15 am
Cover Art is not displayed through Media Server neither in 'playing now' view neither in 'media library' view.

May be it is not a bug but I ask because somebody reported here many weeks ago it could display cover art through Media Server.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: michel on March 30, 2003, 02:33:29 am
After to "play" a set of images (slideshow), to play audio runs both the previous slideshow and the songs (simultaneously).

(I do 'play', no 'add to playing now'). I experimented that through Media Server but it is probably the same behaviour without it.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: michel on March 30, 2003, 02:39:31 am
It seems that the "progress" windows of a tag operation closes too soon as you have to wait a few seconds to take the control again (i.e. a mouse click has no immediate effect, you have to wait about 4 sec after the "progress" windows closed).

It is not a big bug but it is perturbating as that gives you the impression the software is not responsive and slow.
Title: I still cant rip or play cd's
Post by: WolfWalker on March 30, 2003, 03:40:48 am
Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1484 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 256 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: SONY     CD-RW  CRX195E1    Addr: 2:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: ZRocker on March 30, 2003, 04:04:27 am
The MC tray icon looks terrible compared to to the other new MC small icons:

Tray (10x) = (http://home1.gte.net/res0khi1/images/mc9_icon_bad.gif)    ---   Taskbar (10x) = (http://home1.gte.net/res0khi1/images/mc9_icon_good.gif)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: LisaRCT on March 30, 2003, 04:20:33 am
1- Hot keys not working during library management (Ctrl-A, F2, Del, etc)

2- When selecting "Raname files from properties" or "Clean file properties", getting messages "Failed to update the floolwing files" for many of the files (they are not in use or any other apparent reason)

3- When Deleting a file, can my selection of 'delete to recycle bin' remain my deafult selection for next time this function is used?

BTW, I like the new icon MUCH better   ;)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Chili-Jam on March 30, 2003, 04:55:33 am
right-click rating:
-------------------------
If you right-click in the area with the player controls to change the rating of the currently playing file you actually change the rating of the file that is selected in the playlist area and not the one that is playing.

question: smartlist and playlistid
--------------------------

I have several smartlists that are based on master-smartlists. It's not possible to figure out on which master-playlist your smartlist is based if you only get a numerical value for the playlistid like:

playlistid==942501229 [Composer]=[instrumental] [Genre]=[Hard Rock],[Instrumental Rock] ~sort=Random ~t=74

Can this be changed back to displaying the playlist name?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Agilityman on March 30, 2003, 04:55:59 am
Bugs:  Still could not get mp4 audio files to play.
Also, TV Tuner no longer worked -- got "Failed to play TV (unkown error)" error message.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: LisaRCT on March 30, 2003, 07:00:34 am
Question/proposal/idea ( extra work - LOL ):

When viewing the Track Info windows, the lovely new MediaCenter Icon is displayed . . .  any way to make it 'active' so you can control player functions right on that icon??
Even better, an 'active-control icon' for the desktop.
::)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: sstrick on March 30, 2003, 07:03:24 am
When changing tags on a large number of files, a warning dialog box pops up stating that this could take a long time and can not be canceled. The OK button on that dialog box until you take the focus off media center and refocus.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta (TV Tuner failure)
Post by: Agilityman on March 30, 2003, 09:07:16 am
Some more details on failure of TV tuner to work in MC 90137.

OS -- Win XP SP1, all updates as of Mar 30
Video Card/Tuner:  ATI AIW 8500DV
ATI Drivers:  Catalysts 3.0, MMC 7.0.0.1
CPU: Celeron 1.4GHz  440BX
MB: Tabor 440BX (PowerLeap Slocket adapter)
RAM: 384 MB

TV Tuner works fine with ATI's MMC software, just get failure to play error on MC 9.0137.

With same Video/TV card, hardware and software, Tuner had previously worked with MC 9.0124.  Stopped working with upgrade to MC 9.0137.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: elpaolo on March 30, 2003, 10:22:58 am
same bug as Cmagic...

"problem with 9.0137 so far :  
- Can't use CD playback and ripping (gave details to JohnT) "

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 541 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 66 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\tada.wav

Burning /  Drive D: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-W4824A   Addr: 2:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Doof on March 30, 2003, 06:25:00 pm
Search : MC is back to displaying Playlist ID's instead of the playlist names.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Wile E. One on March 30, 2003, 09:28:05 pm
I believe this has been reported before...but I couldn't find it. Sooo...

MC crashes after an extended pause (>4 or 5 minutes).

What happens? Well, I am listening to a song, I press pause, I go away for about 5 minutes, come back, press play, and MC just looks at me funny.... frozen solid. I have to force MC to shut down. Everything is fine on program restart... but it's easily replicated.

Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- E:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
AMD Athlon 1410 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 251 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive I:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive L:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive L: LITE-ON  LTR-24102B         Addr: 2:1:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: Yes /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: JohnT on March 31, 2003, 06:51:40 am
Quote
same bug as Cmagic...

"problem with 9.0137 so far :  
- Can't use CD playback and ripping (gave details to JohnT) "


Quote
I still cant rip or play cd's


I'm going to move this to the thread "CD ripping/playback problems in recent builds". Please take a look at that thread.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: stevenf on March 31, 2003, 07:53:04 am
whenever i attempt to copy lyrics into the lyrics properties box, the program crashes. I am wonder8ing if this could be a bug, or could it be something i am doing wrong?

thanks
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: Byhtomit on March 31, 2003, 08:04:59 am
Bugs:

Fixed - TB1)  The icon on the first window during
                    installation is still Media Jukebox
Open - TB2)  The icon on the Media Center folder under
                    C:\Program Files, after installation is done,
                    is still Media Jukebox
Open - TB3)  WAV files encoded at less than 88kbs do
                    not play and give a pop-up error
                    of "Please select file(s) to play."
    update:   13kbs plays now as does 88kbs, but 32kbs
                    still doesn't play.
Open - TB4)  Once an internal vizualization window is
                    closed, there is no way for to be
                    re-opened.
Open - TB5)  There are many instances of "Media
                    Jukebox" in the Help listings.  Additionally,
                    the title bar reads "Media Jukebox v8 Help"
Open - TB6)  Making Help an inactive window doesn't
                    cause it to switch to a background
                    window.  It's as if a "Always on top" option
                    is enabled for the Help menu.



Thanks,
Timothy
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: IDSmoker on March 31, 2003, 08:16:35 am
Misclassification of Files

I've seen this bug/problem ever since I started using MC9, and have reported it a couple of times, but haven't heard if there are any plans to fix it before release.

Why do I find my Audible books classified as "Video"?  There is no visual component to the *.aa file type definition.

The last time I tried using MC9 to manage real Video files, I found several file types being classified as "Music" (don't recall which ones, since I gave up using the beta for video quite awhile ago).

I've also seen several "Image" file types get classified as "Music" for some reason.

I would suggest that you either fix this problem before "releasing" MC9, or you give the user the ability to create their own definitions of Music/Image/Video in terms of file types.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 31, 2003, 08:36:05 am
BUGS
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.137 beta
Post by: nila on March 31, 2003, 09:32:35 am
Aaahh!!

The CD's are all messed up too :( Duplicate Tracks, Wrong Track Orders, etc. etc.
I now have 10 messed up CD's, all fully done with labels and everything :(

I guess that'll teach me to do lots of burning without checking each one as I go along:


Media Center Registered 9.0.137 -- C:\Program Files\Media Center 9\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1666 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 220 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive I:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive J:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   chord.wav

Burning /  Drive I: LITE-ON  LTR-52246S         Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:52  MaxSpeed:52  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None