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Title: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 09, 2022, 12:11:31 pm
I have a problem with GPU utilisation.

In Standard view, GPU utilisation is 0-1% but when I switch to Theater view, it jumps immediately to 90% and stays there. This increases power usage considerably causing excessive heat up of my passive cooled case.

MC version: 29 up-to-date
Windows: 10 up-to-date
CPU: i5-10400
RAM: 16GB
GPU: internal UHD 630

Tried:
- all permutations of anti-aliasing and mipmaps in Theater view->Advanced
- all permutations in General->Video
- a discrete GPU (GT 1030) which exhibits similar problem but utilisation jumps to 70% and then up to 90% in a few seconds

Note:
- I only use JRiver to play music (no videos)
- I installed some custom images for Theater view background (these have the same resolution as the TV - 4K)
- There is nothing else running that uses the GPU
- I don't think this was happening previously: I've been running JRiver on this PC since August 2021 starting with version 28
- I have a few VSTs running in DSP Manager but the problem still occurs if these are disabled

Am I missing a setting? Any ideas?
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 12, 2022, 03:37:08 am
I also tried different video renderers and renderer options but this made no difference.
I found that GPU utilisation is back at 0-1% if I switch to Display view.

90% GPU whether iGPU or discrete GPU simply by switching to Theater view with nothing playing - something is wrong here.

Has anyone else seen this?
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: d_pert on July 13, 2022, 01:52:58 pm
Yes. Same here. Tried a few times over many years/versions.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: tzr916 on July 14, 2022, 08:08:01 am
Hmm, not seeing those high of numbers:
-Laptop GPU jumps to 15%
-Server GPU jumps to 25%
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 15, 2022, 02:09:00 am
But aren't even those numbers very high to render a simple screen with a few static buttons and a background which changes many seconds apart?

I would expect negligible GPU usage like the Display view to render this.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: mccarty350 on July 18, 2022, 09:34:10 am
I will add that in theater view I get hitches and sometimes it becomes nonresponsive, it does feel like it is taxing beyond what I would consider normal.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: JimH on July 18, 2022, 09:48:27 am
Try adjusting quality and frame rate in Theater View settings.

Theater View uses 3D drawing and some drivers may work better than others.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: piccoloconte on July 18, 2022, 10:31:00 am
Hi, maybe there is a problem, watch my video.
When I switch to theater view it doesn't behave like version 28 and earlier, with the windows remote control mce when I press the green or back button it seems to go out of theater view for a moment ...
Thank you

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15M5FAWbB61SHxQzLO_OCbTOno2LWypB_/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 21, 2022, 05:25:54 am
Try adjusting quality and frame rate in Theater View settings.

Theater View uses 3D drawing and some drivers may work better than others.

The quality settings in Theater view make no difference: I still have 1% GPU utilisation in Standard view and 90% in Theater view home page with nothing playing even with "No Anti-Aliasing" and "Use Mipmaps" enabled or disabled.

I could not find frame rate settings in Theater view.

Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: BigSpider on July 21, 2022, 04:21:26 pm
Tried this while playing a track, switched from standard view (2.35% cpu) to theatre view (5.35% cpu). Misread the OP.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 26, 2022, 04:40:37 am
@Jimh @Hendrik can you please comment:

Should Theater View home page with nothing playing incur 90% GPU utilisation on UHD630 and GT1030 GPUs (from 1% in Standard view)?

If not, is this a setting that we have missed or is it a bug?

Can we PLEASE have a response

Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: JimH on July 26, 2022, 07:21:29 am
I see 17 to 19% when in Theater View.  That's normal.  Theater View is animated 3D.

I don't know why you're seeing high numbers. 

There's an option to use Vulkan.  Try it both ways. 

Did you customize Theater View at all?

Try this thread for ideas: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,24031.350.html  Work through it in reverse order.

Video driver maybe.

Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: drcuser29 on July 27, 2022, 11:12:52 am
Thanks @JimH.

I tried Vulcan but it was worse. The GPU was pegged at 100%.

The only customisations I have in Theater view are some menu changes and some custom background images. Removing all background images reduced utilisation maybe 5% so no real fix there.

I went through the "Wierd and Wonderful" list. There were 2-3 entries that might be relevant but the fixes were mainly to update drivers which I have already done.

I also tried reducing the frame rate from 60fps to 30fps in the driver. This reduced utilisation by 10% which is a small win but not enough.

I am starting to think there is not going to be a solution to this problem apart from a hardware upgrade which is a bit frustrating.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: JimH on July 27, 2022, 01:34:47 pm
Did you configure Windows Defender?
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114101.0.html

Don't use other antivirus.

The latest video driver may not be the best.

Avoid any configuration of the driver.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: David Sydney on July 31, 2022, 01:33:09 am
I have the same CPU, same integrated graphics and the same result on high GPU usage. Just running the menu's is 60-70 %. Having said that it still runs ok and does not hang or cause problems.
Title: Re: Very high GPU utilisation in Theater view
Post by: JimH on July 31, 2022, 07:51:11 am
Try toggling the Video setting for hardware acceleration.