INTERACT FORUM

More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 30 for Windows => Topic started by: konkeydong75 on January 09, 2023, 10:07:06 am

Title: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 09, 2023, 10:07:06 am
I was running 29, upgraded to this build and when MC starts it's unusable. Clicking anywhere in the MC window just makes it freeze then after a time out Windows prompts to wait or end task.

29 is still installed and works fine. I have backed up the library, removed MC 30, rebooted, reinstalled and tried to restore the library but I can't do this as as soon I click in the MC window to use it it hangs and crashes again.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: JimH on January 09, 2023, 10:38:06 am
Crash or hang?  Unresponsive or gone?

Did you configure antivirus ?
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 09, 2023, 10:42:40 am
Hi Jim,

It hangs as soon as you click anywhere in the MC30 window. As soon as I click in the window the size/resolution of the window changes and looks a little fuzzy, as though it is just about to start playing a TV channel. Nothing happens at all after that.

If you click in the window a second time, Windows pops a message saying MC 30 is unresponsive, with options to close the program or wait for it to respond.

There is currently no AV running on this box.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: tzr916 on January 09, 2023, 03:24:15 pm
There is currently no AV running on this box.
If you are running Windows, then you have AV built in. To configure:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114101.0.html
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 09, 2023, 03:53:23 pm
Thanks tzr916,

Windows Defender is configured with all recommended file, folder and extension exclusions.

I did previously have Symantec Endpoint Protection installed on this machine and removed it a few months ago when testing for speed differences in MC with it installed. I configured the exclusions in defender at that point and have not had any issues with it until I upgraded.

I'll check through the program folders tomorrow and see if anything has been added that isn't currently excluded.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 10, 2023, 08:44:17 am
OK, I double checked everything in defender and all appeared fine. Everything matched the AV checklist at https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114101.0.html but the issue still remained.

I reinstalled Symantec Endpoint Protection and have tried it without exceptions, with folder only exceptions and with file and folder exceptions and it works straight away.

Very odd.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 10, 2023, 09:03:19 am
OK, I spoke too soon!

It is doing the same thing, it just took longer to happen.

Have removed 30.0.41 and installed 30.0.40 and have the same issue, but MC 29.0.87 is working fine.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: JimH on January 10, 2023, 09:19:56 am
Check the Symantic website to see if they have an uninstaller.  Uninstall it.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 11, 2023, 11:02:41 am
Still having the same issues.

I've removed SEP using Symantec's cleanwipe utility and there is no trace of it on the system.

I've re-configured Windows defender and excluded all JRiver folders and files everywhere on the system. I have also excluded folders used for media, tv recording, and anything else that is part of the MC library.

The only exclusions I have not made are for file types, but I can't see that making any difference in this instance.

I still have the exact same issue - MC30 starts and appears fine, but as soon as you click in the interface it hangs. If you click a second time, the MC screen gets greyed out and the Windows dialog box appears saying MC is unresponsive with options to close the program or wait for it to respond.

MC29 continues to work flawlessly. Is there anything else I can try?

I'm certain it isn't the AV, and have never had any issues with previous versions of MC on this machine whether using AV or not.

Is there an MC log file somewhere I can take a look at?
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: JimH on January 11, 2023, 11:34:22 am
See the wiki topic on Logging.  Read the bottom of the log after a hang.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 12, 2023, 02:57:30 am
Thanks Jim,

I have created the logs but there's nothing glaringly obvious I can see.

Can I send them in to you?
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: JimH on January 12, 2023, 03:38:47 am
See the wiki.


 Look at the bottom of the log to see what MC is reading?
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: Matt on January 12, 2023, 09:51:03 am
We think this will be fixed in a new build coming shortly.  I'll post here once it's out.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: Matt on January 12, 2023, 10:01:09 am
Here it is:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,134880.0.html

Please let us know.  Thanks.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 13, 2023, 06:01:28 am
Hi Matt,

This does seem to have done the trick.

Have had MC running in standard view now for an hour without a hang - I could only get a few seconds before when running 30.0.40 or 41.

What was the issue?

Also, I noticed that the installer for this version rockets along and completes in seconds, the same as with the installer for MC29 versions.

The installers I ran for 30.0.40 and 41 both started the install, then appeared to hang for a couple of minutes before continuing.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: Yaobing on January 13, 2023, 08:50:24 am
The issue was in showing TV program logo in Standard TV view.  Something was not right in image/thumbnail code.
Title: Re: MC 30.0.41 Hangs
Post by: konkeydong75 on January 13, 2023, 08:53:02 am
Many thanks for your help all!