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Title: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 09:41:51 am

Hi,

Media Center is defaulting to YADB to look-up track info.  How do I change this to use CDDB instead?  I can't seem to find any way to do this.  

Also, does MC get cover art from the YADB or CDDB? -or does it source cover art from elsewhere?

Thanks,

-Camp

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 09:43:55 am

One more question:

What's the best method to auto-search for album art?  Just curious how you guys do this.

Is there any way to do it by album rather than by track?

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 09:48:11 am

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Media Center is defaulting to YADB to look-up track info.  How do I change this to use CDDB instead?

MC9 does not use CDDB, Nore does the latest builds of MJ8

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 10:19:37 am

Oh...I guess that solves that one.  Odd that they didn't edit the help files.

Why the change?  I assume CDDB costs money where YADB is free?

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 10:52:25 am

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Why the change?

Long story

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I assume CDDB costs money where YADB is free?

J River Owns YADB, and has better control over it.

YADB database is growing but it is cleaner than FreeDB and CDDB

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: zevele10 on February 26, 2003, 10:54:58 am

Album art:
Go to AMG , and paste copy the sleeve.
This is ,by far , thebest way

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 10:58:01 am

well really if MC9 can't find it Does MusicMatch Find It, Then AMG

Lets make it Easy. K.I.S.S.

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: zevele10 on February 26, 2003, 12:10:03 pm

As you say.
But i even do not try with MC.
Straight to SuperTag, a 97% success rate
Was money very well spent...

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: nila on February 26, 2003, 01:11:51 pm

What's SuperTag??

Do u have a link for it? :)

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: zevele10 on February 26, 2003, 01:20:51 pm

SuperTag is one of the last MusicMatch fonction.
You load a song of a full album and you get tags and sleeve.
Of cause ,not 100% succes , but  very very good results.

It is in the Plus version only.
It is better and cheaper than other programs doing the same thing.
I think KingSparta use it as well , so he  can tell you what he thinks about SuperTag.


Beside this , there is no way you may want to use the jukebox instead of MC.
Of this ,i'am sure...

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 01:29:21 pm

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I think KingSparta use it as well , so he  can tell you what he thinks about SuperTag.

It works good.

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 02:23:57 pm

Thanks for the discussion thus far.
I've used MusicMatch and it does do a decent job tagging and finding album art.  

I wonder how different media players store the album art?  I know Media Center stores them in a user-defined folder.  I think Windows Media Player stores them as a hidden file inside the album folder.  I'm not sure where MusicMatch puts the files.

If I dowload my own images manually (by say going to Amazon.com or something) where should I save the images for universal viewing on different media players?  Or, what's the closest I can get to "universal"??

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: nila on February 26, 2003, 02:26:06 pm

Just installed it and gave it a whirl.

I do love the fact it presents you with all the found matches and lets you choose which one to use.

It also presents you with covers for each and lets you choose which to use.

Hopefully MJ will do something similar to MJ9 before they release it so it can present us with the info it retrieves before applying it so we can choose to use it or not.


Other than this, it didn't have any real features that impressed me.
MJ Creamed it.

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 02:27:58 pm

>> I know Media Center stores them in a
>> user-defined folder.
yes, but you can change that and have the coverart saved in the ID3v2 Tag in a MP3

Music Match and Media Player will also save it in the MP3

Only media center allows you to do both (internal and external)

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 02:32:46 pm

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yes, but you can change that and have the coverart saved in the ID3v2 Tag in a MP3

I can't find that option.  Where is that?  Is there any way to update a file's tag if I have the cover art but it's stored in the folder?

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: KingSparta on February 26, 2003, 02:35:15 pm

where you can see the Image at the right in properties for the selected file.

Look below.

[X] Store Images inside file (when possible)

>> Is there any way to update a file's tag if I have the
>> cover art but it's stored in the folder?
Yes

Title: Re: CDDB instead of YADB?
Post by: iCamp on February 26, 2003, 03:08:15 pm

MC stores images inside MP3 and APE files...but not WMA lossless files.  Using WMA I think album art is application specific...that is MusicMatch, MC, & WMP all have their own ways of storing image data.  I just don't know where they all put the images.

In my case, where I'm using WMA lossless, what image format (bmp, jpg, gif, etc.) and what location is best to manually save album art?