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Title: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: d_pert on September 01, 2023, 01:13:33 pm
MC crashes when I complete the following steps, and ONLY when the .vst3 64-bit version of ToneBoosters Morphit is 'installed' in DSP Studio.

MC does not crash when the .vst (VST2) 64-bit version of the same plug-in is 'installed':

1. Drop FLAC files into playing now from Explorer
2. Select all files in playing now
3. Right click > Library tools > Convert format > Preset > Load > click on ANY user preset [Note: No VST plugins are selected/active in conversion DSP Studio settings.]

I can avoid this by switching Morphit to VST2, but I wanted to flag re: apparent stability issue relating to VST3.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: JimH on September 01, 2023, 01:33:59 pm
Is it a 64 bit plug-in?

You could try the 32-bit version of MC.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: d_pert on September 01, 2023, 02:30:21 pm
The plugin's 64-bit, as is the host (the version of MC I'm using, of course).
Another VST winch I use all the time in MC is 64-bit only, so I'll need to stay all-64 bit.

Also: Switching to VST2 from VST3 version of the plugin (not 64-bit to 32-bit) makes the crash go away. So it would seem to be more of a VST 2/3 thing than a 32-bit/64-bit thing.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: d_pert on September 07, 2023, 08:42:06 am
I can confirm that switching from VST3 64-bit to VST2 64-bit version of the plugin(s) eliminated the crashing.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: Matt on September 07, 2023, 10:30:02 am
d_pert, that's interesting!  The VST3 effect (TB_Morphit_v1.vst3) doesn't load with MC today.  I'm not sure how you got it.

It returns a number of classes but we only try to build class zero.

We'll make a coming build actually loop classes until it finds one that works.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: d_pert on September 12, 2023, 05:48:22 pm
Hi Matt:

The vst3 version of Morphit is included with the license purchase.

Does the following release address the issue?

31.0.53 (9/7/2023)
[...]
3. Changed: VST3 effects that create the plugin on a class number higher than zero will work.
[...]

Thanks.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: Matt on September 12, 2023, 06:09:44 pm
That made it load for me.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: Paul Coddington on September 14, 2023, 10:14:30 pm
d_pert, that's interesting!  The VST3 effect (TB_Morphit_v1.vst3) doesn't load with MC today.

Toneboosters VST3 plugins were loading up to and including 1.7.4.

With the release of 1.7.5 in the last week or so, the VST3 format has changed to an open folder structure containing several files rather than a single VST file.

This turns out to be incompatible with JRiver Media Center, DaVinci Resolve, perhaps a few other host applications as well. Not just Morphit, but the other VST plugins in the collection are also affected, such as Equaliser and the free analysers.

I'm working around it by rolling back to 1.7.4 for now rather than cross-grade to VST2 (which has remained compatible) as I do not need the extra headphone models that have been added.
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: d_pert on September 21, 2023, 03:53:55 pm
Thanks for the heads up!

Do you mean that one can no longer 'install' the VST3 in MC (in the DSP Studio where that is done...)?
Title: Re: Crash selecting a Convert Format preset with .vst3 installed
Post by: eve on September 21, 2023, 07:36:50 pm
Toneboosters VST3 plugins were loading up to and including 1.7.4.

With the release of 1.7.5 in the last week or so, the VST3 format has changed to an open folder structure containing several files rather than a single VST file.

This turns out to be incompatible with JRiver Media Center, DaVinci Resolve, perhaps a few other host applications as well. Not just Morphit, but the other VST plugins in the collection are also affected, such as Equaliser and the free analysers.

I'm working around it by rolling back to 1.7.4 for now rather than cross-grade to VST2 (which has remained compatible) as I do not need the extra headphone models that have been added.

If its the format I think, you'll need a VST wrapper. I use Metaplugin but there's other ones out there. I started doing this god, maybe a decade ago when I wanted to use Waves stuff (which I use for production) in MC.