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Title: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Matt on February 14, 2003, 12:21:39 pm
Media Center 9.0.113 beta is available.      
     
Many things will crash and not work.  If that worries you, please wait for a couple of weeks.
     
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter90113.exe
     
Changes      

1. Fixed: Volume control did not work on Win9x / ME systems.
2. Fixed: Download Manager was not working correctly with Emusic.
3. Fixed: Paste link did not work in Download Manager.
4. Fixed: Debug messages are now gone from Windows Media Encoder.
5. Fixed: Windows Media encoder would not install on systems without latest version of Visual Studio .NET
6. Fixed: Skinned scrollbars didn't use the system setting for mouse wheel scrolling.
7. Fixed: Hitting "Next" or "Previous" while MC was paused would cause unexpected results.
8. Fixed: New mp3 encoding plug-in should work with Media Center (use "Help->Check for Updates" to update)
9. Changed: CD Labeler now uses JRImage.dll for image management -- creates a smaller program and better performance.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: JNKH on February 14, 2003, 12:53:01 pm
Hi Matt,

I was very excited when I see that you have fixed the volume control.  However, my machine is running Windows XP PRO, and also suffer from the same problem.  The volume bar cannot be scrolled in MC in my system.  I can only adjust the volume control from other applications.

I have 2 sound cards, Creative Extigy and Terratec Aureon 7.1.  But are having the same problem.

I can only mute the volume in MC, but I can't slide the volume bar.  

Please help fix this as it is very inconvenient for us.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: sdgrizdan on February 14, 2003, 12:55:25 pm
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Fixed: Volume control did not work on Win9x / ME systems.


YES! It finally works! Thanks!!  ;D ;D  (windows 98 SE)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KeystoneCop on February 14, 2003, 01:03:09 pm
in Tools..Fill Properties from Filename .  
The Buttons (arrows) are broken.  (This was my problem) had a program running in backround that was causing this).. sorry.


The Plug-ins  are not showingup, tried to reinstall, says ok, but not showing up

tried to install 112- it blew up
then 111, same thing
went back to 113  

plugins now work ok..  tried to install 112- it blew up
then 111, same thing
went back to 113  

plugins now work ok..
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: ehart on February 14, 2003, 02:01:32 pm


     


  Trying to rip a CD
 Read Track Failed. Unknown Error = 1
  Trying to reach YABD lookup
 Status: Failed To Connect To YABD Server
  Trying to reach Interact from the start page
 Cannot find Default_V9.zip
                         
     Could this be the cause of the YABD failure?
                             
            Ed
                             
 TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 [CD-ROM drive]
 SONY CD-RW CRX195E1 [CD-ROM drive]
                             
                             
 Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\
                             
 Microsoft Windows 98 SE
 Intel Pentium 4 1996 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 282 MB
 Resource Info: System - 51 %, GDI - 69 %, User - 51 %
                             
 Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
 Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
 wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1014) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1998 Adaptec,     Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A
                             
 Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /    Copy   volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  
                             
 Burning /  Drive F: SONY     CD-RW  CRX195E1    Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ   Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: pmj on February 14, 2003, 02:05:34 pm
Hi !

When I'm trying to open then streaming file: http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/MPL/2710.mpl -
I got an error: "Windows Media Player can't find the file..."
When I'm opening the same file in Windows Media Player it works perfect !

It seems to be a problem with asf/asx-fíles ??
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: JimH on February 14, 2003, 02:06:42 pm
Quote

Trying to rip a CD
Read Track Failed. Unknown Error = 1
Trying to reach YABD lookup
Status: Failed To Connect To YABD Server
Trying to reach Interact from the start page
Cannot find Default_V9.zip


Try a reboot, but you may have two different problems.  The failure to reach Interact could be an Internet or firewall or proxy problem.  Please start a new thread if it continues.  It works fine from here.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: JimH on February 14, 2003, 02:14:46 pm
Quote
When I'm trying to open then streaming file: http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/MPL/2710.mpl -
I got an error: "Windows Media Player can't find the file..."
When I'm opening the same file in Windows Media Player it works perfect !

It seems to be a problem with asf/asx-fíles ??

It works for me, using 9.0.113.  I have WMP 9.0 installed.  If you don't, could you try that and then start a new thread if it doesn't work?  We've made changes on the WM components today.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: pmj on February 14, 2003, 02:26:23 pm
Quote

It works for me, using 9.0.113.  I have WMP 9.0 installed.  If you don't, could you try that and then start a new thread if it doesn't work?  We've made changes on the WM components today.


I also use WMP 9.0 and MC 9.0.113 B.
Please try the link again - i's normally second time, you choose then link, it don't work (I hope you understand me) ?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Shelly on February 14, 2003, 02:32:05 pm
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9. Changed: CD Labeler now uses JRImage.dll for image management -- creates a smaller program and better performance.


Still not working.  The same problems that I reported on the last build related to extracting internal artwork for the front cover and the cd label persist.

Shelly
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 03:10:04 pm
OUCH!  What happened to Ctrl+U?!? (.113) While it had the dubious name "Toggle" for changing between 3 states, it DID let me quickly go from one view to another. Which can be very important if you're looking at pix from Victoria's Secret for Valentine's Day, right? Right.

I found the List Style button... but no Hotkeys show up in the menu or Tooltip.

Uh... a Hotkey is a "must have" for an image program, I think.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: rogerg2 on February 14, 2003, 03:16:15 pm
Quote
author=pmj
When I'm trying to open then streaming file: http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/MPL/2710.mpl -
I got an error: "Windows Media Player can't find the file..."
When I'm opening the same file in Windows Media Player it works perfect !


Works here.
BTW
Thanks for the link.

WinXP Home
2.533 P4
512MB PC2100 DDR
WMP9
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Kurt Young on February 14, 2003, 04:17:12 pm
Doh!  Volume slider doesn't work for me either in this build.  Last build was fine, but this'n is broken.

Edit:  Weird.  It's working now?  I can't say why, but it is.

Media Center 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1494 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 573 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\Windows XP Balloon.wav

Burning /  Drive D: SAMSUNG  CD-R/RW SW-212B    Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Holden on February 14, 2003, 04:35:48 pm
Volume control works fine for me now too.

Files played singly still have the last several seconds clipped, but play fine as part of a playlist.

Still, when burning a compilation disc, the differing artists and albums are all listed as "various."
Please someone, if you have them listed as they should be, would you verify that so I'll know there is a solution, and that perhaps it's something I'm failing to do.

Holden

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows Me
Intel Pentium 4 1495 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 198 MB
Resource Info: System - 51 %, GDI - 54 %, User - 51 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.50.4134.100
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive H: MATSHITA CD-RW  CW-7586     Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: 90 %
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on February 14, 2003, 04:43:01 pm
Volume slider is BACK!!! It actually works on my Stereo-Link but not the Extigy. Maybe a configuration problem. I'll keep working on it.
Still can't convert files. That may be the same problem so I'll keep working on that, too.
Soon, I'll have to regroup and start over. i.e. dismantling the Command Center and rewiring. I'm starting to get lost. While I'm at it, a reinstall of my OS would be in order, too.
Anyhow, just getting my name in the ring in case it actually ISN'T my problem.

CVIII

BTW, I'm having trouble installing plugins from the web site. That also may be on this end. But maybe not.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on February 14, 2003, 04:52:51 pm
Did a little more checking on the plug-in problem. I tried to download the latest MP3 pluging for MC9 and got the message "..Failed to unzip file 'c:\windows\TEMP\enc_mp3.zip'.

Well, that's because it doesn't exist. Not in that directory or on any other drive.

CVIII
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Kurt Young on February 14, 2003, 04:58:08 pm
Odd bug, started in build .110, but I hadn't had much time to watch TV on my PC, so I couldn't do much with it.

I'm using a VisionTek "Xtasy Everything" video card (http://www.visiontek.com/everything.shtml), which has an external "pod" TV-tuner.  There's a physical connection from the "pod" to the video card, and a physical connection from the "pod" to the sound line-in.

With MC configured properly, TV works great.  Since .110 though, there is no audio.  After much picking and clicking, I can get the audio to work.  Today, I finally found a pattern.

Upon starting TV (either after just launching MC, or after watching TV, switching to music, and then back to TV), there is no audio at all.  I have to go into "Configure TV...", hit the "Advanced" tab, and double-click the "TV Tuner..." entry.  

(http://pimpin-seattle.d2g.com/images/mj9/tv-options.jpg)


Once the TV Tuner options panel appears, the audio starts right up.  I don't have to actually change anything, I just have to load up the panel.

(http://pimpin-seattle.d2g.com/images/mj9/tv-properties.jpg)


Also, strangely enough, if MC isn't running and I plug my iPod in (via firewire), I hear about a second of TV audio pop out of the speakers.

Media Center 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1494 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 549 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\Windows XP Balloon.wav

Burning /  Drive D: SAMSUNG  CD-R/RW SW-212B    Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 05:29:47 pm
Quote
Did a little more checking on the plug-in problem. I tried to download the latest MP3 pluging for MC9 and got the message "..Failed to unzip file 'c:\windows\TEMP\enc_mp3.zip'.

Following up on "Charlemagne 8"s plug-in issue, I ran into something different: Trying to load any Interface plug-in, I get:

Quote
This action will install a Media Center component. Do you wish to continue?

No... definitely not. My MC software is 4 hours old. (113)

This might be cuz I'm running with a DLL Matt sent me with diags in it (JRImage.dll). It could also be due to the library updates in .112 - dunno. But as a matter of habit, if an add-on is older than what I'm running and wants to replace/install something, I get jittery.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 05:32:47 pm
WAY, WAY off-topic

I'm 31,000 feet from the nearest CO and stuck with 28.8 dial-up for the next century or so.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were no banner ads for logged-in Interact users?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on February 14, 2003, 05:33:31 pm
Quote
This action will install a Media Center component. Do you wish to continue?


I got that too and said "Yes" and then got the "Failed to unzip .." message.

Upon trying again, I notice that the "MP3 Encoder - 2.0.53" plugin download has 0kb. This could explain something.

CVIII
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Soundman on February 14, 2003, 05:53:26 pm
Library Backup Filename:  I noticed that the name given to library backup .zip files changed sligtly between 9.0.110 and 9.0.112.  This is fine.

While it's still fresh on your mind, can you do one more small thing?  Please make the Date portion of the filename use 2 digits for month and day fields (with leading zero), so that the filenames sort chronologically when sorted alphabetically.  This little touch would improve usability alot for me ;D (Always using Backup to shuffle the library back & forth between two sites).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 06:22:27 pm
Quote
Library Backup Filename:  I noticed that the name given to library backup .zip files changed sligtly between 9.0.110 and 9.0.112.  This is fine.

Trivial code change - BIG benefit! It's a real time-saver for me.

Quote
While it's still fresh on your mind, can you do one more small thing?  Please make the Date portion of the filename use 2 digits for month and day fields (with leading zero), so that the filenames sort chronologically when sorted alphabetically.

Agreed. Even better, move the year to the front: MC Library Backup (Default - 2003-02-14).zip

Primé: MC Library Backup (Default - 2003-02-14-nn).zip ... it checks for the latest backup of the day and increments the trailing number. I manually add the per-day number a lot.

Best: 2003-02-14-nn Default MC Library Backup.zip

This sorts ALL backups by date, then by library. Hmmm... which seems good to me, but I could understand if people prefer the "Primé" suggestion. :) This calls for an option!
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 07:15:19 pm
Bug: Use the Images View Scheme Group, preferably with images having "artist/album" naming.

Select an image in Thumbnail mode. Switch to Details (oh, how I miss Ctrl+U). The Selection is GONE!

Same thing whenever you change list style. I use the thumbnails to find the image I want, then want to switch to details to see all its stuff relative to those around it. But the selection is lost.

If I don't have names under the thumbnails, the only way to ID the file is to do File / Properties and that is certainly no time-saver.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: ZRocker on February 14, 2003, 08:01:30 pm
Bugs with Portable Drive support:
(tested with USB-connected CF-card reader)

1. MC crashes if you start an upload and navigate to Playing Now or Media Library nodes while uploading is taking place.

2. Get a sharing violation if you queue a file for upload that is currently playing and attempt to view the upload queue or execute the upload.

3. The "Available memory size limit exceeded." warning comes up way too often (when reviewing the upload queue)...compare to MJ 8.0 and you'll see what I mean.

4. The "Available memory size limit exceeded." warning is displayed non-modal (should be modal) so it can be hidden behind MC and multiple warning dialog can be displayed if you click away from the upload queue and return.

5. During the upload process, MC becomes very, very sluggish and unresponsive...I don't recall this happining with MJ 8.0.

Others:
1. Can someone please get rid of the 'feature' that showed up a few weeks ago that automatically hides (minimizes) MC everytime you change the visualization window from internal-mode to windowed-mode?  It is so annoying...I don't want MC disappearing...I just want a windowed visualization window, please (MJ 8.0 did it right).
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Phydeaux on February 14, 2003, 10:34:24 pm
Hello guys at J River! I'm excited to try this build -- have been stuck on .110 for too long.

I'm not sure whether this has been addressed, but certainly haven't seen any bug fixes on it in the previous build releases:

Audio analysis (which was fixed in 110) _still_ has memory leak issues which date back to version 8. Reproduction of such errors is difficult!

The only common feature is whenever I have more than (say) 100 mp3's being analysed, it will have a memory leak. In such cases, it can crash on the third song. Having re-analysed such lists, the error really does seem to be random because no crash ever happens in the same place twice.

However, when only 50 songs are analysed at a time, it seems to go through them with no problem. This is not a rule, because it has crapped out on me once like this, but at least with only 50 songs, the machine doesn't grind to a complete stop while windows converts your entire harddrive to virtual memory.

If the problem is impossible to fix (and I don't see how that could be the problem!) then please at least put in some error checking to say: "ok, I'm analysing music and the amount of RAM that I'm taking up seems to be growing hugely. Let me stop, clear my memory and restart this one."

Another bug is the rather sketchy background support provided while analysing audio. I can do stuff with my mouse, but my keyboard is useless.

A last request along the lines of the audio analyser is to have a user selectable priority. Sometimes I would like to do other stuff and on my 800MHz machine, it can get a little tedious at times. I'd like to "idle" the process and then do some other stuff in the foreground without having to wait for glacial delays.

Thanks all the same -- at least the audio analyser gives the right results now, even if it doesn't work completely...

P.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Phydeaux on February 14, 2003, 10:36:24 pm
And I see you've managed to break the 11MB mark for your installer ;)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 14, 2003, 10:47:23 pm
Bug:

Last Played and Number Plays are not updated when playing images.

... with nearly 1,000 pictures of flowers in Holland, I want to use Smartlists just like music. They're all beautiful, and I want to see them all over time, not repeating recently viewed images.

    (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/music/LavenderCupsMJ.jpg)   (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/music/RedWhiteMJ.jpg)   (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/music/CascadeMJ.jpg)   (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/music/ManyRedMJ.jpg)   (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/JackMJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: MachineHead on February 15, 2003, 01:33:31 am
Bug:

Playback with Output Mode (default) is closing MC when double clicking a file. No core error messages though. Uncheck and double click is fine. Repeatable for me everytime.

Note: Was messing around with different output options when this occured. Changed back to default setting and it still kills MC regardless.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Matt on February 15, 2003, 01:39:27 am
Quote
Playback with Output Mode (default) is closing MC when double clicking a file. No core error messages though. Uncheck and double click is fine. Repeatable for me everytime.  

Note: Was messing around with different output options when this occured. Changed back to default setting and it still kills MC regardless.


Even if you pick "Source ...." for all the choices?  If not, can you isolate it anymore?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Harry_The_Hipster on February 15, 2003, 01:44:38 am
During playback of pre-existing playlists, MC will hang on the last few bars of a file, producing a stutter. At the same time, it will commence playing the next file in the queue as an overlay. The Stop button is frozen, can terminate only by exiting MC.

Not specific to any one format. Not running other programs when this occurs, besides firewall, anti-virus and cookie and pop-up stoppers. Haven't encountered this prior to 113.

Files in question play normally on an individual basis. This behavior is not exhibited when a playlist is compiled on the fly through 'Add to playing now'.

Also, at the beginning of a playlist, there will be a fragment of sound from the end of another file before playback of the first file in queue commences.

Replay Gain and Wide and Dynamix are activated in DSP Studio.

System Info:

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2018 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 235 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-W4012A   Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

HTH
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: MachineHead on February 15, 2003, 01:51:31 am
Matt-

Picked source and it now goes back to normal behavior with the double click. Also can change back to 16 bit, which is what I had initially when it started this.

Maybe not flushing commands if you don't reset to source?

Well, it seems to work again. Maybe I should just leave the settings alone. 16 bit is the best I can do with this thing anyway.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: michel on February 15, 2003, 03:04:28 am
Media Server:
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 15, 2003, 03:17:00 am
Issues/bugs with Thumbnail view

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug32a.jpg)

As a start... this "Album / Artist (Auto)" feature just doesn't help me. It's real close to annoying. What information can I glean from "(Multiple Artists)"? I suppose there are people who really like this, but I have never found it of benefit. I'd dearly like a global option that says "Use Artist" vs. "Use Artist/Album (Auto)". For stats... for thumbnails... global. This is clearly an issue of Individual Preference, not Right vs. Wrong.

I'm dyin' without Ctrl+U. I remember someone saying, "Toggle doesn't make sense for three views". Cool, I understand. How about "Next View Style" as the prompt for Ctrl+U? We just gotta have that hotkey back... mouse moves are time-consuming and the target is small. If I'm REALLY picky... Ctrl+U was a long reach for the left hand and "U" didn't have any correlation to a menu pick. Maybe there's a hotkey combination that's easier on the left hand? Ctrl+R seems unused... "Rotate View Style"?

OK, that being said, let's get into factual bugs. Look at the image above. I've selected the Artist "> France" and its children. But look at the top images. The first says "(Multiple Artists)", and the Properties box says "Artist: <varies>". How can this be? I've selected the Artist "> France" and it's shown in the Search Field at the top. Yet, MC9 has found "Thalys to Amsterdam" in a different Artist's collection ("> Belgium") and somehow pulled it into the Artist "> France" collection.

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug32b.jpg)

Here, I've selected "Thalys to Amsterdam", within "> France". Check out Properties - it's still showing "Artist: <varies>" and the "(Multiple Artists)" still shows under the first thumbnail. But then - most curiously - an image with the same attributes is displayed invidually. The only difference is the size of the images. Very puzzling.

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug32e.jpg)

Here I've selected "Thalys to Paris" in the "> Holland" collection. It sees the entries in the "> France" collection, showing "(Multiple Artists)" under the right image. But...

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug32c.jpg)

...here I've clicked on "Thalys to Amsterdam" within the "> Belgium" Artist collection. In this case, it has not detected the "Thalys to Amsterdam" Album within "> France", and it shows every image as it should. As far as I can tell, it seems that a list of Albums is not cleared when moving from Artist to Artist in the tree.

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug32d.jpg)

This last one is easier. When I scroll down by clicking the vertical scroll bar below the scroll handle, the view scrolls so that the top images are cut off at the top. I believe that, when such a scroll/page down is handled, the last row of images that are not fully visible should be scrolled to the top - and their tops aligned to the top of the window's client area.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 15, 2003, 04:05:37 am
Issues/Bugs sorting Smartlists

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug33b.jpg)

Minor bug: I did an Alt+PrintScreen and pasted it into Paint. Notice that the resizing border at the right has been lost. Seems like a Skins Issue.

Sorting: In this first image (above), I have used ~sort=random and the results are correct.

(http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/MC9-bug33c.jpg)

Here I added ~sort=artist after ~sort=random. I want each Artist's songs together, but randomly sorted. I can do Cumulative Sorting in the File View Window (on the right)... click a sort header for one column, then click another - and the second sort preserves the first sort's result order when all the entries in the second column are the same.

In the Smartlist, the first sort is lost... now the songs are in Track Order.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Oops on February 15, 2003, 04:19:01 am
Hi Matt, hi Steve,
since the latest tree or four releases I've problems to install the ipod plugin. I've tried both versions, the one for V8 and the one for V9. Both installations terminate successfully, but the plugin isn't really installed. There were no changes after a reboot and no other behaviour after a complete new installation of V 9.0.113.
Any ideas?

Chris

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- D:\MMedia\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1194 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 366 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\notify.wav

Burning /  Drive H: SAMSUNG  CD-R/RW SW-212B    Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Harry_The_Hipster on February 15, 2003, 04:29:00 am
Bugs(?):

- When Analyze Audio is in progress, cannot enter data in Find field in Media Library.

- When previously analyzed files are re-analyzed (because BPM = ?, for instance), some prior replay gain settings are substantially readjusted. Which were/are correct: old settings or new settings? Believe this occurs most often with files that were ripped with 'Calculate replay gain during ripping' selected, but not certain. If so, these files were ripped in prior builds, not 113.

- When I 'Add to playing now' with 'Shuffle tracks' elected, newly added files go to the end of the queue and do not play until all files previously entered have played. Recall some earlier discussion of this behavior but not whether it is deliberately programmed.

HTH

Listening to: 'Elgy' from 'Modern Jazz Perspective' by 'Donald Byrd' on Media Center 9.0
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KingSparta on February 15, 2003, 05:19:26 am
Auto Rip Mode

When MC went to go get the Next CD MC found the CD and Displayed The Info.

But Yadb Displayed A Failed Message

Then When You Click On The Message MC Crashed
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KingSparta on February 15, 2003, 05:33:17 am
Auto Rip

I Rebooted MC9 And tryed Auto Rip Again

This Time It Did Not Crash, But It Also Did Not Rip The CD, And Just Told Me next CD WithOut Riping The CD That Was Inserted.

I Am Using Rip To Wave.

It Sounds Like Something Is Wrong With Auto Rip

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1799 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 522 MB, Free - 172 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINNT\Media\Windows XP Hardware Remove.wav

Burning /  Drive D: LITE-ON  LTR-40125S         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: drosoph on February 15, 2003, 05:36:46 am
BUG --

CD Rip (Using MP3 Enc 2.0.53) Calculate Replay Gain and Get Cover Art are not working on RIP ...

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: mrwul on February 15, 2003, 05:41:18 am
Quote


     


  Trying to rip a CD
 Read Track Failed. Unknown Error = 1
  Trying to reach YABD lookup
 Status: Failed To Connect To YABD Server
  Trying to reach Interact from the start page
 Cannot find Default_V9.zip
                         
     Could this be the cause of the YABD failure?
                             
            Ed
                             
 TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 [CD-ROM drive]
 SONY CD-RW CRX195E1 [CD-ROM drive]
                             
                             


No, rather a regular occurrance, regretfully.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: MachineHead on February 15, 2003, 06:24:51 am
Quote
Even if you pick "Source ...." for all the choices?  If not, can you isolate it anymore?

Thanks.

Matt-

I was tired when I read this the first time. Yes, even with source bitdepth MC will take a leap into oblivion. As long as source and two channel or mono is selected it will not shut down as soon as files are d-clicked.

Additional: It seems that it is only 4.0 and 5.1 that are causing this to happen. No matter what the source or sample rate are.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: mrwul on February 15, 2003, 06:28:23 am
YADB failure again...
freedb cd: 41109214
Rachmaninov, by Alexeev.
Easy CD-DA Extractor, MP3 CD Extrator, MP3 Media Studio retrieve track data. MC9 113 regretfully not.
(rebooting pc does not make any difference) ..:-((
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: mkutsen on February 15, 2003, 07:55:37 am
1)The playlist scrol bar does not work in Min-Me skins.  
   
2)Clicking a *.rm link downloads the file instead of streaming it.  If I cut and paste the link in to "Open URL of streaming file" dialog box, the file streams fine.    
   
Clicking on a *.ram link does nothing.  Again, if I cut and paste it into "Open URL of streaming file" dialog box, the file streams fine.    
   
BOTH file types are registered under MC9 in IE Folder options.    
   
3) Noise, with Replay Gain enabled, in songs that are recorded at HIGHER volume than playlist average.  Clip protection is enabled.  Restarting the song usually eliminates the problem.  
 
Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\  
 
Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)  
Intel Pentium 4 2782 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 303 MB  
 
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)  
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer  
 
Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max  
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max  
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767  
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\Media\notify.wav  
 
Burning /  Drive D: SONY     DVD+RW  DRU-120A   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Use MJ Engine:Yes  
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes  
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: JollyJim on February 15, 2003, 07:57:59 am
INSTALLATION
- hh_portable.dll plug-in failed
- ** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.110 **
- a plug-in failed but could'nt see which one as it went through too quickly (new in 9.0.113)
- no desktop icon
- Jrivers program folder (in Start menu) is empty
** although the last two items seem trivial, don't they show something amiss in the installation procedure?

VOLUME
- No volume control slider
      ** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.113 **
EDIT
- works ok when editing a single file (not via properties)
- painfully (and I really mean painfully) slow if I edit through properties although it seems to be only on some fields, namely the 'Name' field
- freezes in properties after two or three changes

PLAYING
- playlists stop with a buffering problem after the first track
** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.109 **

RIPPING
-     locks up when attempting to access YADB (new problem in 9.0.109)
      ** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.111 **
- fails with a 'Read track failed. Unknown error = 1' message although the cd I'm trying to rip, plays ok through MC

CD LABELLER
- does'nt print the jpg on the slimline front cover
- the print preview shows the jpg at 180 degrees to the main M/Editor screen
-
OPTIONS
- no toolbar buttons available in left-hand panel for customising toolbar
     ** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.113 **
- all toolbar buttons in right-hand panel are described as 'Import Media'
     ** WORKING AS OF RELEASE 9.0.113 **
- Device Settings/Type is greyed out. Only 'Auto Config' is available


Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium III 599 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 130 MB, Free - 5 MB
Resource Info: System - 33 %, GDI - 63 %, User - 33 %

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4522.1800 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4522.1800
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3612.1700
wnaspi32.dll: 2, 0, 0, 0 , ASPI for WIN32 DLL, Copyright © Adaptec 1995 / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: No /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PHILIPS  PCRW804            Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: SeanC on February 15, 2003, 08:11:37 am
The 113 upgrade removed the Nomad II plugin.  I have reinstalled the plugin from the plug-in page, and it reports being successfully installed, but the Nomad does not appear in CD, DVD & Handhelds.

The plugin was working perfectly in .104 immediately before the upgrade to 113.

Actually, the ipod plugin disappeared too, and doesn't appear in the plugin list, even after a successful install.

UPDATE: since I couldn't get my portable devices to work, I installed .104 over the .113, since that was the last one I was using that worked.  Now MJ just crashes on startup.
Title: BUG: Multiple Selection in External Tools
Post by: Tolga on February 15, 2003, 08:34:11 am
if n multiple files selected are send to external tools, n copies of the first file are send to the external tool instead of n different files.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: dougc on February 15, 2003, 09:59:33 am
If I put a 1 second long OGG track at the start of a playlist and hit play, MC sits there with "Buffering..." above the position slider.  It has to be stopped or track advanced to get by it.  The track plays fine if it's between 2 longer tracks.  Not a big deal but it could be annoying in certain cases.  If you want the track, let me know.

I'm also still having the problem with the volume control not working under XP.  The system has 2 sound devices.

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1993 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 391 MB, Free - 270 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive G:          RW-201040          Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:20  MaxSpeed:20  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on February 15, 2003, 10:19:53 am
Quote

1. Fixed: Volume control did not work on Win9x / ME systems.


It does now. Thank you.

Quote
2. Fixed: Download Manager was not working correctly with Emusic.


It still doesn't.

Quote
8. Fixed: New mp3 encoding plug-in should work with Media Center (use "Help->Check for Updates" to update)


Got the error message:   "..Failed to unzip file 'c:\windows\TEMP\enc_mp3.zip'. [/i]

enc_mp3.zip doesn't exist. Not in that directory or on any other drive. The file size on the web page is listed as 0 KB. But "Chart Finder", which has a much larger file size, does the same thing.

AND my Media Center 9 start programs folder is "empty"
(http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/64/64865/folders/46212/377390mc9mt.jpg)

Quote
Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- d:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Celeron 539 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 260 MB, Free - 98 MB
Resource Info: System - 30 %, GDI - 56 %, User - 30 %

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive G:          40X12X48 CD-RW     Addr: 2:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None


CVIII
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Lynn on February 15, 2003, 10:23:07 am
Hi Matt,

I reported a problem with ASIO sound after Version .87.  I have experimented with both hardware and software configurations, and I think I have found the problem.

At least on my system,  having an external USB 2.0 CDR attached causes some type of conflict that degrades the sound.  I will try and update the drivers to see if that helps, but it is a 'generic' model, so I don't know how available they are. However, this was not a problem with versions .87 and prior.  Right now though, with the drive unplugged it sounds BEAUTIFUL!!

I would like to submit a new report that:

. with an RME Digi 24/96 I cannot talk to the card at anything other than  44.1 in all modes (not just ASIO), and when I return to the DSP setup screen the defaults always are displayed (not how I left the screen). do you just close by 'x' the panel (i did not see another way to exit).

. the last few seconds of the last song in a playlist are truncated.

Regards,
Lynn
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KingSparta on February 15, 2003, 11:06:40 am
YADB

When doing YADB lookups MC kept showing me the YADB failed to find info over and over.

Artist: Madonna
Album: Madonna
Year: 1983

I terminated MC9 and The Please Wait... Gathering Infformation and Updating Box Came up and i could not terminate it.

Terminating MC9 in the task manager was the only way to get out of that.

When i Rebooted MC9 and tried the cd again, it did not find any info (This should be a popular CD) but it also did not send me into an endless loop.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: dragyn on February 15, 2003, 12:41:51 pm
Something is wrong with skinning. I've reinstalled a couple times but the buttons sometimes are not drawn.

Skinning is disabled right now and the volposthumb image is missing. sometimes it's the stop/play/controlbar, etc.  A complete shutdown/restart will fix it. Maybe a memory leak?

Just started noticing it in this build.

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 805 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 39 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: TEAC     CD-W54E            Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None


Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RemyJ on February 15, 2003, 12:44:08 pm
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 15, 2003, 03:05:33 pm
Matt...

The new Automatic List Style is quite nice. I've been using it a for an hour or so, and I can report it is working without problem. I happened to be working with some images today and was listening to music. And it really got me thinking. I wrote this "step-by-step" so you can see what evolved.

1. Earlier I posted my desire to select "Artist" rather than "Album Artist (Auto)" for thumbnail grouping.

2. Matt and I have been chatting, and he prefers to engineer things carefully to minimize the number of options. Too many options can get messy. There is a balance, and maybe if you feel you need an option, you should look at the problem in a different way.

3. I was using the Automatic List Style and found I wanted Artist / Album grouping. I was going to submit a request to provide "Automatic (Album group if logical)".

4. I noticed that the phrase "(Album group if logical)" is a bit of a misnomer. It doesn't accurately represent the style of the list - which has two levels of grouping, Artist and Album.

5. I saw I had an "Artist / Album" View Scheme and suddenly (http://www.eldoradosoft.com/temp/Bulb.gif) connected this to "(Album group if logical)".

6. I considered a new way of doing the grouping, and I checked to make sure it was consistent with what's there now. If I select "Thumbnails (Album group if logical)" and view a Playlist, the entries are never grouped.

Here's the concept. The new List Styles would be:
   Automatic
   Automatic (View Scheme)
   Details
   Thumbnails
   Thumbnails (View Scheme)

This does so many things for the List Style feature it makes my mouth water. First, it inherently solves the issue of whether grouping should be by "Artist" or "Album Artist (Auto)". And it goes way farther than that.

With either "(View Scheme)" List Style, if I click on the top level of a View Scheme, the contents would group based on all the View Scheme Components. I'll bet 98% of users have an "Artist / Album" View Scheme since it's a program default. You click on the top of it and you get the grouping that is now "(Album group if logical)".

But :D if you click on a different View Scheme, you get the thumbnails grouped according to it's way of looking at the library. It's so cool... it brings the component ordering and tree structure into the visual world!

To make it the most useful, if I have a View Scheme expanded and select a child entry at any level, the grouping would be based on all Component entries below that level. And it should definitely have a hotkey. Ctrl+R for "Rotate List Style" feels right somehow.

From what I see in the List Styles behavior now, this concept seems like it would fit quite well into the List Style code you've already written. And I can't help thinking that the resulting code would be satisfyingly elegant... do you guys use consultants ever?

I want it... I want it real bad...   8)

Hey, team. I think it's fair to say this beta test has had its ups and downs for all of us. I really like this idea, and I think it would be of tremendous benefit to everyone. So... I have two bottles of carefully cellared 1989 Ch. La Conseillante set aside. If you do this, I'm going to ship one to you. When you get it, I want you to share it some evening. The other bottle? Then night you guys enjoy yours, hopefully with some good cheese and grapes, my wife Sandy will share this one with me. As I've networked my music for the family, she's been part of this Beta Test, too... if ya know what I mean...

Matt, on a personal note, it was a rewarding challenge to engineer "sans Options". The idea that came from it is excellent and almost transparent to today's operation. I think your design philosphy is a good practice to follow, and I'm going to push myself a little harder when decisions about Options come to my desk in the future.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Kurt Young on February 15, 2003, 04:18:08 pm
Update to my bug about TV audio.  It actually happens every time i change channels!

1.  Change channel, audio stops
2.  Open up "Configure TV..." and hit "Advanced Properties"
3.  Double-click on "TV Tuner...".  TV tuner panel appears and audio starts.  Panel can be cancelled or OK'd with no further effects.


System info same as above
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Dan Da Man on February 15, 2003, 05:43:16 pm
In this build I am still having problems with the updating of fields.

I've played many tracks, and most have not updated their Number of Plays or Last Played fields while running .112 or .113.  The ones that did update I either didn't listen to fully or stopped and resumed.  But, it doesn't seem to be that easy, because I tried to reproduce it and that didn't work.

Is anyone else's Last Played and Number of Plays not updating?

And, with this bulid and maybe the last one too, it seems the amount of errors I get when starting to rip a disc has increased.  Usually, the problem will resolve itself if I close and restart MC.

Dan "da Man"
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: RandyP on February 15, 2003, 07:00:19 pm
Quote
Is anyone else's Last Played and Number of Plays not updating?

Yes and No...     (.113)

Last Played and Number of Plays is never updated for Image files.

Last Played and Number of Plays is updated if one Audio file is played.

If more than one Audio file is played sequentially, only the last file's Last Played and Number of Plays is updated. No others.


I have detail on Music File Cutoff at the end

The cutoff occurs EXACTLY when the last byte is read into the buffer for the last song. If you play several songs, you'll see the count go to -5 or -6 before each ends. At precisely the same time, the last song in a list stops playing. "The file's been read, so the song is over"... but there are six seconds of music still in the buffer.

If you play only one song, the last six seconds are always dropped, which is consistent behavior.


A thought: Might these two be related? Both failures' circumstances are the same.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Spiffy on February 15, 2003, 07:13:59 pm
Media Center quits playing about 4 or 5 seconds before the end of the last song in Playing Now. It does this if there is only one file in Playing Now or multiple files in Playing Now.

If there are songs in the Playing Now list and play is stopped at that moment, and I double click on a new song to be played, it just adds it to the list, but does not start playing it. I have Double Click behavior set to Add to Playing Now (play now), so it should start playing immediately. If there is a song playing at that moment, the correct behavior is exhibited when a new song is double clicked. That is, it is added to Playing Now and starts playing immediately.

When adding a new named preset to the Equalizer, if you it the same as an existing, it lists it twice. If you mod it again, three times, etc... Closing the DSP window and reopening shows the correct list without the duplicate entries.

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 795 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 293 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: SONY     CD-RW  CRX160E     Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: smackbadger on February 15, 2003, 07:19:16 pm
Bug: Trying to open the options dialog in Download Manager causes it to crash.

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Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1736 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 490 MB, Free - 157 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: LITE-ON  LTR-24102B         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Tiberius on February 15, 2003, 08:11:13 pm
Bugs:

1. Very Very Random but still there>Resize Mega_Me somtimes cause Album image in Visualization to revert to default(MJ surfer) image. Note images stored in files. Album image returns if cycle to next vis and back or on track change.

2. Last track in play list cuts off at very end like MC doesn't know what to do if it dosen't have another track to crossfade to so it just kills the audio. Almost goes away if set to standard/gapless playback. Most  noticeable with crossfade/aggressive and a song that does not fade at end.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Phydeaux on February 16, 2003, 12:35:00 am
A few things that seem odd with this build:



Looking forward to some fixes of these!

P.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: HansWei on February 16, 2003, 12:52:29 am
a few things I have found with 113:

CD Labeler
1. "Use Cover Art" isnt working at all
2. "Use image from file:" working and shown correctly on screen but printed 180 Degrees rotated when using "Generic with fold-over front"  :-/

Analyze Audio
For me still not working, Files are encoded with Lame (external); MJ8 values are recognized, if I clear them all values are calculated except replay gain. Files will still show up as "to be analyzed".  ?
Cheers and thanks for this great program  ;D Hans.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: anvil on February 16, 2003, 02:47:35 am
Thanks for the effort on MC9  :)
However , I meet a time-expired problem with the 9.0.113 beta.
I don't know why but I'm eager to taste the beta. Somebody help me?

Thank you all.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Anna_Dambrogi on February 16, 2003, 03:45:22 am
Hi !
1)
After formatted my pc ( w2000 sp 2) and installed  w2000 sp3, I was reinstalled media center - ver.9.0.105
but
I can't open mpc file - media center say that is  a unsupported file -  but in  plugin manager that appear(mpgplus encoder) and if i download and try to install it, media center crash. ? ?
2) when I surf in allmusic site (find artist info feature)
in some pages appear a error message : error in script -do you want to continue ? yes ( but message continue to appear)
no ( but message continue to appear) and I MUST close Media Center. ? ?

Before reistallation, I dont'have that errors - nothing errors. :-[
Can you help me or I stay for a new release with  fixed bug ?
ciao from Italy
Anna
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: AllanY on February 16, 2003, 05:27:34 am
I've had a minor display problem where a scrollbar has not appeared when it was required. After some testing it would appear that if a folder has a file with a name of about sixty characters or more, then no scrollbar appears for that folder. The folder/file list can still be navigated using the keyboard.

Allan

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Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- D:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1539 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 88 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: jcouch93 on February 16, 2003, 06:10:25 am
BUGS



phatrabt


Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1728 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 712 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive V:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive G: LITE-ON  LTR-24102B         Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KeystoneCop on February 16, 2003, 06:30:48 am
Quote
I tried to install the chart finder plugin (downloaded a little while ago) but no plugins node appears in the tree.


I had the same problem, I tried going back to prior versions and they blew up on install.. Then installed 113 again, when it installed plugins where there again.

I would try to install 113 again (that may have been the fix)..
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Rands on February 16, 2003, 06:49:31 am
ASIO Problems

Using the ASIO Multimedia Driver, MC will play just fine until I try to load an mp3 outside of MC (e.g., via a file manager).  Then it will start giving me the following error:  ASIOMME.DLL already loaded!  It will continue to do this until I shut MC down and restart it whereupon it will be fine again until I try loading an mp3 (or m3u, et al.) outside of MC.

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1732 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 366 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-W4012A   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: smackbadger on February 16, 2003, 07:10:42 am
BUG:  Insert a CD (YADB lookup fails).  Select the CD to list the tracks.  Eject the CD.  Reinsert the CD while still selecting the CD drive.  Boom!  MC crashes every time.

BUG: View Web Media.  Click play on any station and you get this pop-up window:  Waring - Please select file(s) to play.

BUG: Start.  Click on "For the latest MC news click here" and you get this pop-up window: Information - Failed to install package.  More Info:  Failed to unzip file 'C:\DOCUME~1\...\LOCALS~1\Temp\default_v9.zip'

BUG:  Submitted 79 tracks to YADB.  Statistics page didn't update and I can't retrieve the info.  Actually, I've never had a single track info lookup from YADB work.  You'd think that with 155,533 individual tracks I'd have one of them...

Don't get me wrong, I love MC (at least when it's not crashing), but at some point are you guys going to stop adding major new features and actually make this a Beta Test.  

-smackbadger
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: KingSparta on February 16, 2003, 03:09:09 pm
CD Riping

Trying To Rip A CD

Artist: James Taylor
Album: Hourglass

Songs Listed 12
Songs On CD 13

MC9 will crash everytime when trying to rip track #13

it however plays Track #13 just fine

I can reproduce it and have done so 5 times

I have rebooted the system and it still crashes on this track.

==================================
Using Media Player 9 To Rip It does Not Crash
==================================

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1798 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 522 MB, Free - 219 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINNT\Media\Windows XP Hardware Remove.wav

Burning /  Drive D: LITE-ON  LTR-40125S         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Harry_The_Hipster on February 16, 2003, 05:02:55 pm
Maybe a Bug, maybe just a matter of taste

Cannot insert text into 'Find Music' without going through Wizard. Ditto, trying to clear field.

I know this has been discussed before. If you're taking a vote, mine is in favor of permitting me to enter my own search terms without scrambling through the various menus. Sometimes more is less, and vice-versa.

HTH
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Harry_The_Hipster on February 16, 2003, 05:24:38 pm
Bug

Set up a second library with selected audio files from default library. Used the convert tool in 2d library to transcode APE to VBR. On completion, files appear in 2d library with proper bitrate and file size.

Returning to default library, files still showed with old bitrates and sizes. Selected update library, and those files disappear from library entirely.

Was able to restore the transcoded files with the import tool. However, shouldn't changes reflected in one library also be changed in the default library? Otherwise, conforming them seems a bit complex.

Or is there another way to do it that I'm missing?

HTH
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: IDSmoker on February 16, 2003, 08:36:05 pm
BUG:  Can Not Load/Restore Media Library
After updating to 113, I backed up my main media library before creating a new one.

Used the new library to work on a small subset of files.  When I was finished, I found that I could not re-load my main library.

Tried closing MC9 and restarting.  

Still can not load my main library, nor can I restore from the backup I made less than an hour ago (much less any older backups), although I can reload the new temp library.

So.... is there any chance that I'll be able to reload my main library with the next beta release?  Or should I just resign myself to re-importing my media, and creating my smartlists yet again!? ?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: PhDSM on February 17, 2003, 12:06:16 am
Hello,

The fields:
 Custom1, Custom2, Custom3, Type, Composer
remain inaccessible for read or write through IMJFileAutomation in 9.0.113.
They are also inaccessible in the visualisation studio and Track info

Also note that in IMJFileAutomation the field : Filename,  has a new behavior since 9.0.088(?), it returns filename ONLY if the file is physicaly present

Regards
PhDSM  
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: mkutsen on February 17, 2003, 04:18:51 am
I have set-up, wave mapper and ASIO in different Zones, and I can't really tell the difference in audio quality when I swithch between the zones.  Not even with audio CDs.  However ASIO is a lot less stable, especially with internet streams.

Also, Direct Sound only outputs to the front two channels bypassing the Audigy Surround Sound and digital effects software.  If I attempt to use the MC9 DSP effects and JRSS it does map to all of my 4 channels, but sounds like crap.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: mkutsen on February 17, 2003, 04:26:50 am
After installing MC 9.0.113 my toolbar customizations have disappeared.

Also the new WMP9 componenet installer puts unnesessary duplicate files in the "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player" directory.  I have not encountered any problems after removing everything from that directory.  All the nesessary WMP9 plugins must be duplicated in various system directories.
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Topper on February 17, 2003, 05:16:25 am
I'm not sure if this a bug or just my unfamiliarity with the new burning options. Under the burner DSP options the total volume change shows 0.04 and will not change from this irrespective of how I change the settings. Bug? or me?
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: 10sne1 on February 17, 2003, 06:10:30 am
When playing an avi file view doesn't swith to Playing Now so you can actually view the file.  
My customized toolbar also disappeared!
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: elpaolo on February 17, 2003, 06:45:20 am
Bugs:

1. Download Manager seems to arbitrarily stop accepting album download requensts from my browser (IE6).

2. Trying to open up "Options" in Download Manager causes it to crash every time.

And a question...is there any way to import my CD/DVD list from one library into another???

Looking real good, boys.

Media Center Registered 9.0.113 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 524 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 27 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:ASPI   Read speed:Max
 Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive D: HP       CD-Writer+ 8200    Addr: 2:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: sstrick on February 17, 2003, 10:12:36 am
pda plugin wont install, but better than microsoft media player. Not only did it not copy an album to my pda but it deleted the album off my hard drive. That's cold blooded >:(
Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.113 beta
Post by: Yaobing on February 17, 2003, 10:26:54 am
Quote
Update to my bug about TV audio.  It actually happens every time i change channels!

1.  Change channel, audio stops
2.  Open up "Configure TV..." and hit "Advanced Properties"
3.  Double-click on "TV Tuner...".  TV tuner panel appears and audio starts.  Panel can be cancelled or OK'd with no further effects.


System info same as above

Kurt,

Does this happen when you change channel via Channels window, or via right-click menu? or both?

Yaobing