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Devices => PC's and Other Hardware => Topic started by: marko on April 07, 2025, 11:48:10 am

Title: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: marko on April 07, 2025, 11:48:10 am
Elsewhere, both OT and out of frustration, I wrote this:
With the imminent EOL of Windows 10, I've recently moved to a new Windows 11 machine, and have to say, so far, everything about it has been like walking uphill through treacle. It's really not been a good experience. Why did they choose to remove the quick launch and custom toolbars? I've had to resort to an explorer.exe hack to get that back, and that's never a good thing!

I've had to merge a registry hack found on Windows support just to get the ability to mount an iso file. The whole sorry saga has made me quite grumpy :)
Am I alone in this experience?
I jumped now figuring that when Windows 10 EOL arrived in October, there would be a rush on the market, and parts could be hard to come by.
So far, all I can say is, "Jesus, what a right royal PIA Windows 11 is"

I use iMazing for working with my iPhone, and this has worked seamlessly for, literally, years... Now? I'm getting TPM errors for Bonjour, which, apparently, I need for my iPhone backups over WiFi. So far, it's just been one stumbling block after another, and yes, I am very grumpy about all of this.

Thankfully, breathe a huge sigh of relief, everything "MC" has carried on regardless. THANK YOU to the entire team at JRiver for that :)

-marko
Title: Re: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: bob on April 07, 2025, 11:57:29 am
Elsewhere, both OT and out of frustration, I wrote this:Am I alone in this experience?
I jumped now figuring that when Windows 10 EOL arrived in October, there would be a rush on the market, and parts could be hard to come by.
So far, all I can say is, "Jesus, what a right royal PIA Windows 11 is"

I use iMazing for working with my iPhone, and this has worked seamlessly for, literally, years... Now? I'm getting TPM errors for Bonjour, which, apparently, I need for my iPhone backups over WiFi. So far, it's just been one stumbling block after another, and yes, I am very grumpy about all of this.

Thankfully, breathe a huge sigh of relief, everything "MC" has carried on regardless. THANK YOU to the entire team at JRiver for that :)

-marko
I was going to update one of my windows machines to 11. Maybe I'll wait a bit longer...
Title: Re: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: marko on April 07, 2025, 12:21:13 pm
Honestly bob, it's mental. This machine benches in MC 5000 points or more higher than the old Windows 10 system, that would be around nine years old now, but everything else around the system, especially launching installers, MC's included, is orders of magnitude slower than the old system. They're so slow, I think the double click has failed, and just as I go to double click again, it fires up on the screen.

The word "disappointing" doesn't even come close to describing my experience so far. I also don't think I made bad hardware choices...
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•   ASUS PRIME AP201 Black Micro-ATX PC Chassis
•   ASRock B860M Steel Legend WIFI LGA1851 Micro-ATX Motherboard (DDR5)
•   Intel 15th Gen Core Ultra 7 265 2.4GHz 20C/20T 65W 36M LGA1851 CPU
•   Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) Memory
•   Noctua NH-P1 Passive CPU Cooler
•   Seasonic PRIME Fanless 700W 80PLUS Titanium Modular Power Supply
•   UK Plug Mains Power Cord
•   Kingston NV3 500GB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD (5000/3000)
•   Samsung 990 PRO 2TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD (7450/6900)
•   Samsung 990 PRO 2TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD (7450/6900)
•   Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Did I? If my hardware choices were OK, then all this ball-ache is solely down to Windows 11
Title: Re: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: JimH on April 07, 2025, 12:23:06 pm
Doesn't seem right.  Win 11 isn't slower.
Title: Re: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: Awesome Donkey on April 07, 2025, 12:40:55 pm
Windows 11 has been a great experience for me. Installers are just as fast, if not faster than Windows 10 was.

One thought, in Windows Defender's window > Device security section, what does it say? Check the core isolation, security processor and secure boot sections and see what it's set to. I have seen issues when the TPM (and secure boot) in the UEFI BIOS wasn't properly setup and it causes performance issues in Windows 11 after setup (which I reinstalled Windows for after correcting the settings as Windows was still borked, after reinstall it was fine).
Title: Re: Moving from Windows 10 to 11
Post by: zybex on April 07, 2025, 02:11:02 pm
Yeah, Win11 has been solid. The slowness is likely the AV cloud-security thing, checking all EXEs before launching. It should get better by itself over time as it learns your patterns too.

Here's a flashback to your Win7->Win10 upgrade experience  ;D
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,104981.msg729839.html#msg729839

Give it time.