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Title: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2002, 01:20:50 pm

Media Center 9.0.87 beta is available.    
   
This is beta software -- some things don't work, some things may crash, and your database and tags may not be totally safe.
     
If you're sure you want to continue, you can download here:    
     
[build 87 was pulled because it crashes when MC opens Playing Now.  A build of V9 that will work is on the downloads page  -- JimH]
   
Changes (9.0.87)

1. Fixed: Browser scheme groups weren't being cleared when switching / unloading libraries.
2. Fixed: Unanalyzed files were not being handled properly when calculating auto replay gain preamp.
3. Fixed: Package Installer could fail to install some hand-held plugins properly.  If you've experienced problems, please try to reinstall the handheld plugin.
4. NEW: Direct Sound playback configuration now allows the selection of a device.
5. Fixed: Image height and width were not being imported for .jpg files. (use Tools -> Update DB from File(s) to correct old files)
6. Fixed: Media Jukebox could crash when analyzing cooked OGG files. (like ones that EAC wrongly put an ID3v2 tag on)
7. Fixed: "Check for Updates" works again. (under the Help menu)
8. Fixed: Reconciled v8 and v9 MJAutomation changes for SDK users. (new .TLB included)


Changes (9.0.86)

1. Changed: Brought back Media Jukebox 8 style "Recently Imported."
2. NEW: Added "implied" search keyword based on the field name -- this is the recommended way to build searches to ensure that user customization won't break anything. (i.e. [artist]=dylan will always work)
3. Fixed: Editing a preset field could corrupt the database by changing the field's data type to "string". (sorry, you'll need to re-import or restore from a non-corrupt library)
4. Changed: Right-click to insert a column now adds the column next to where the click occurred, instead of at the beginning.
5. NEW: Playlist groups now remember their view mode. (delete auto smartlists, restart, then clicking on the root of auto smartlists will be fast)
6. Fixed: Several bugs with playlist view mode operation.
7. Fixed: After customizing DB fields, all column customization would be lost.
8. Changed: Default column layout more logical.
9. NEW: Added "Revert to Default Columns" to column header right-click menu.
10. Fixed: Windows uninstaller was unable to find MC uninstaller.
11. Changed: After fresh install, content tooltips are off by default.
12. Fixed: YADB track lookup was only working for 1 in 10 files.
13. Fixed: "Media Jukebox" (or other custom field text) could sometimes erroneously get imported as the comment field.
14. Changed: Added progress to "Saving tag changes..." wait message.
15. Changed: Added progress to tag removal tool.
16. Changed: Further improved TV options.
17. Changed: Improved YADB track lookup engine -- more likely to find matches.
18. Fixed: Media Center was not working correctly with external tools.
19. Changed: Analog sound recorder now uses YADB for track name lookup.
20. Fixed: Sound recorder "Add track" dialog was messed up.
21. Fixed: In CD ripping settings, "Choose sound" button wasn't working.
22. Fixed: Default encoding rate was incorrect on new installations.
23. NEW: Added "Automatic" replay gain adjustment mode -- plays the playlist as loud as possible without clipping. (but still at the same volume)
24. Fixed: Pre-setup unpacker said "Media Jukebox" instead of "Media Center".
25. Changed: Made sound recorder buttons keyboard selectable for automated recording.
26. NEW: Media Center has multi-zone playback!!! (check out "Player Zones" under the far right button in the lower-left player area)

For more information about multi-zone playback, check here: http://www.musicex.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=beta;action=display;num=1039130574
 
We're still getting more bugs reported than we can fix each build. Please keep a list of bugs you find, and re-report anything that doesn't get fixed each build.    
     
Thanks for your help and support.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2002, 01:29:46 pm

23. NEW: Added "Automatic" replay gain adjustment mode -- plays the playlist as loud as possible without clipping. (but still at the same volume)

Explanation: If you play a loud rock album (like Aerosmith or Metallica), replay gain ends up turning the whole thing down a lot. (like 15 dB)  That's silly since ALL the files are getting turned down.  You could just turn down the files that are actually louder than the others.

That's the idea behind the "automatic" replay gain mode.  It makes everything as loud as safely possible while also making everything sound the same volume.

It's a little hard to explain, but it's a pretty nice feature -- especially for things like burning a mix CD where you want it as loud as possible but also all the same volume.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Seviien on December 05, 2002, 01:37:45 pm

This is a little difficult to explain, but i think there's a bug in the media library tree when switching between libraries.  I guess the best way to illustrate what I'm running into is with a hypothetical example.
If you start out with a library "I" that has view schemes: A, B, C and from there load a library "II" with view schemes B, C, T, the tree will show library "II" as having view schemes A, B, C, T

If you quit out of MC and then restart the program, view scheme T will not be in the tree.  Likewise, deleting T from library "II" works ... but it'll pop right back up the next time you load library "II" from library "I"

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: dragyn on December 05, 2002, 01:49:36 pm

Matt,

I really like what you did with RG. I'm gonna have to test it out later. However, is it possible to add just an "Automatic" mode along with "Automatic based on current playlist" to adjust for every song?

If I load say all of media library/some wierd playlist, the RG value doesn't change since there would be a song with very low/high values.

Adding this functionality would make me a happy camper.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: bennyd on December 05, 2002, 01:52:10 pm

Open bugs for this version:

- Exporting a playlist to m3u uses playlist.m3u as name in stead of the playlist name
- Playing a stream web station, MC adds a playlist and imports the stream as a file.
- Left tree collapses on startup
- Limit to Minutes does not work (e.g. limit to 1 minute does not return my files underneath 1 minute)
- Uploading more than 100 files to my Handheld device gives an error at the end "error opening file" and not all files are uploaded then
- When sending e.g. 5 mp3's to external tool MP3Gain, it opens 5 times MP3Gain i.s.o. Adding those 5 files to 1 MP3Gain

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: ZRocker on December 05, 2002, 03:34:51 pm

Quote

3. Fixed: Editing a preset field could corrupt the database by changing the field's data type to "string". (sorry, you'll need to re-import or restore from a non-corrupt library)

Bug:
1. Well, I deleted all and reimported...still got string fields.  I created a new library (empty) and imported everything again and still string.  In Options, Tree & View...it says Duration and File Size are (for example) string type data fields.  Now, really...how do I fix this??

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Mr.X on December 05, 2002, 03:49:57 pm

TV Bugs:

• When starting time-shift, audio is muted
  
• When starting time-shift a message comes along the bottom of the screen that says "a suitable codec could not be found. Video will be recorded uncompressed. I checked the recording settings, and the JRiver codec for time-shift is the one selected.
  
• Scanning for channels still "seems" to lock up after 20 or so channels. If left to its own devices, it eventually fills the list, but it seems like it's locked up until it finishes
  
• Channels missed on the scan and then added in later are skipped when using the arrow buttons below the screen to increment/decrement channels. If a new channel is selected via the keypad or the channels list to the left of the window, the arrow buttons go between the selected channel and "n/a"
  

System Info:
Media Jukebox  9.0.86 -- D:\Program Files\Media Jukebox 9\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 900 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 309 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: LITE-ON LTR-48125W   Addr: 0:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: nila on December 05, 2002, 04:03:33 pm

BIG REQUEST

• PLEASE make the installer remember all the already selected associations from previous installations. Make it act like an upgrade for upgrades. I Love the regular new builds but it's a pain having to rechoose all the types I want to associate.
  
  REQUEST
  
• Break down the 'association wizard' in the installer to enable us to simply select: audio/video/graphic as options instead of each and every type.
  
• give us an option in the installer to choose the destination folder for MJ in the start menu. I always have it as a sub folder to: Multimedia but have to move it as there's no option to allow me to set it as it's being installed.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: drosoph on December 05, 2002, 04:18:56 pm

5. NEW: Playlist groups now remember their view mode. (delete auto smartlists, restart, then clicking on the root of auto smartlists will be fast)

WHAT does this mean ?
Ive tried setting columns per playlist group ... no dice ..
Ive tried setting the "List Style" per group ... nadda ..

What exactly does this mean ?


On another note:   Has anyone seen the Cover Art while using the Media Server ... Ive never had it work ... whether the files are Embedded <inside file> or on the remote PC.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: dragyn on December 05, 2002, 04:58:51 pm

[shadow=black,down,300]Bugs[/shadow][/list]

• ape/apl files show as incomplete for album type (ape image file).
  
  
• renaming a database field, ie: duration, all default columns are displayed and column order is reset. duration still shows in column selection menu. column name doesn't show until a refresh.
  
  
• clearing media library removes the auto smartlists until restarting mc.
  
• playlist (.pls) doesn't show automatically when opening while playlist tree is expanded like "media library'.
  
• playlist (.pls) shows imported library icon when opening. "import into library" shows on right-click menu in "playing now".
  
• dragging and dropping a playlist in the playlist tree does not update if another tree component is selected (ie: media library). have to first select the playlist, release, then move.
  
• exporting playlists with invalid file name characters result in no file being created. ie: RadioStorm: 80s
  
  
• fonts doesn't automatically update in search window, playlist bar, & file properties.
  
• buttons for property bar do not automatically resize when changing font size.
  
• fonts for windowed file properties bar doesn't updated until a close/reopen.
  
• large fonts clip in player window, file properties, search wizard, playlist bar, drop target & column headers.
  
• file properties bar (internal) uses different font than windowed.
  
• file properties has no horizontal scroll bar.
  
• windows' colors scheme change doesn't update playlist bar (refresh).
  
• control bar does not use the same font as the file property bar.
  
• columns (auto resize) doesn't update when changing fonts.
  
• columns in statistics are not remembered when switching views.
  
  
• view filter could hide files in a limited search (~t, ~s, etc.). one hour of music could only show 10mins.
  
• search wizard is unable to add a playlist group. playlist="group" works manually.
  
• buttons for control & property bars does not use xp style buttons (skins disabled).
  
  
• remaining_time counts up for live http streams in visualizations.
  
• "name" is not updated in visualizations/track info for live streams when id3 info is available.
  
  
• renaming a library name from library manager says library already exists or goes back to previous with inline editing.
  
• favorites could point to invalid items when using different libraries.
  
  
• inline editing multiple files (up/down) doesn't update "file properties" window.
  
• "delete file(s) from hard drive doesn't give an error message" for read-only files.
  
• "remove tags from files" (mp3) says successful on read-only files.
  
• undo doesn't undo deleted files from database.
  
• view scheme groups sometimes get left behind when switching libraries (restart).
  
• "cancel" while importing doesn't update library until restart of mc (unc library).
  
• error box doesn't show all files when number of files is bigger than the box (non-scrollable).
  
• starting mc with an invalid library, stalls mc. critical error: failed to open the database file 'playlistx.jmd' for saving. (a file could be read-only or corrupt). doesn't exist, path invalid (unc path, unable to recreate directory).
  
  
• filename/location sometimes doesn't show sub directories if there are a lot of files in parent directory. using the directory mc stalls on works.
  
• adding "auto smartlist (music)" to a playlist view scheme is not showing correct components for smartlists with limited identifiers.
  
  
• mc will not create thumbnails when using a unc library path and the thumbnails directory doesn't exist. (full access). creating directory manually works.
  
• condensed display mode (toggle list style twice) will sometimes start the first item displayed instead of the one selected (double-click, replace all). right-click play seems to works fine.
  
• "locate file, on disk (inside media jukebox)" freezes for unc files. also note the media jukebox reference.
  
  
• importing files that a codec cannot be found (avi especially) stops importing process. (untested since 9.0.81, most likely still there).
  
• "auto smartlists (music) / top hits - 100 most played" shows files that were never played. (numberplays=>0)
  
  
• hairstyle retains focus, unable to use other windows(dual monitors).
  
• when importing video files, mc goes in and out of focus. windows becomes active and inactive for each file imported.
  
• viewing an image (right-click, show), it always goes to full screen mode even if windowed mode is activated (jump on play set to none).
  
• viewing an image (right-click, play), the control bar shows n/a for file names.
  
• thumbnails do not show in correct order from the list shown when switching views.
  
• full screen is always on top. other full screen programs allow windows to be put on top of it (ie: remote desktop). dual monitor setup.
  
• "last exit mode" doesn't activate windowed mode.
  
• "system info..." box says cancel when there really is not anything to cancel (close).
  
  [shadow=black,down,300]Requests[/shadow]

• checkbox like system for columns (just like importing).
  
• remember separate settings for the control bar, one for each mode (internal, windowed, and full screen).
  
• option to always hide control bar.
  
• windowed toolbar button.

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Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.86 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 805 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 76 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: TEAC CD-W54E   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: ZRocker on December 05, 2002, 05:11:44 pm

Bugs (still):
1. With data CD burn list displayed, renaming folders in the Org Tree of the burn list will always crash MJ (after just 2 or 3 renames).

2. Sometimes loading a saved burn list scheme will crash MJ...maybe if files in the scheme are no longer imported in MJ.

3. With a single file selected (anywhere in MJ), the status line does not work like it did in MJ 8.0 and prior.  Now it just show the info for the currently selected file...it used to show you the total of all the files currently in view...so, with MJ 9, you  have to 'painfully' unselected everything in the view to see the total for the viewed list of files.  The MJ 8.0 way was far more friendly...with one file we can already see the stats because of the detail in the content tree view anyways.

4. The burn list CD stats (%, MB used, MB left) does not update correctly at all while building a burn list.

5. Using the MJ internal burner, IS NOT GOOD...when created data CDs it removes the last 4096 bytes of each burned track and inserts it at the beginning of the next track to be burned...WTH!?  Thus, the final audio and ID3v1 tags show up at the beginning of the next track (viewed in a binary/hex editor).

6. Usually, cancelling a CD burn (via Cancel button) after a successful burn will cause MJ to crash.

Request:
1. Can we get the 'generic' CD burner back (as say a third burner choice)?  I liked the way it worked...I mean it could burn data CDs with no problem (no currupt, useless files) and I used it for the a specific purpose that the GoldenHawk burner doesn't satisfy (ie, GH burner does not burn the directory in folder/filename order like the generic burner did/does).

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Doof on December 05, 2002, 05:29:20 pm

Bugs for Media Jukebox ver. 9.0.74

New, Modified, or Returning Bugs

• Search : Selecting a Search Criteria, then choosing Edit by Typing results in a very difficult to read selection like this:
  
  (http://doof.webryders.com/MJ/Screenshots/select.jpg)
  
  
• CD Burning : It's rather unecessary for MJ to ask me what kind of CD I want to burn when I add a non-audio file to a CD.
  
  
• Playing Now : Deleting the currently playing file from Playing Now stops playback. Clicking NExt no longer does anything, but Previous plays the first track in the playlist (shouldn't it remember where the removed file was and act accordingly?), and clicking Play results in an error message that says "Please select file(s) to play." Double clicking another file in Playing Now will restart playback.
  
  
• If I go from MEGA-ME to mini-me, everything is fine, but once I'm in mini-me, if I use the right click menu to change to a different skin, I get something similar to this:
  
  (http://doof.webryders.com/MJ/Screenshots/vis.jpg)
  
  The vis window always ends up in the upper-left corner of the screen, whether the skin I switch to is configured to display a vis or not. This ONLY happens if I also have Inactive Transparent set to on. If that's off, then the skin I switch to has no vis window at all, even if I tell it to display one.
  
  I've also noticed that when I have Inactive Transparent on, and I switch skins, when the vis window appears in the corner, I have a taskbar item called "J River Playback Engine Window". Once the skin loses focus, the vis window and it's taskbar entry dissappear until the skin regains focus.
  

Old Bugs

• View Scheme Groups : Using the wizard to create search criteria for a view scheme isn't filtering out things based on the criteria specified for the group that the view scheme is in. For instance, creating a View Scheme in the Audio Group, if I try to specify a genre in the search criteria, I'm being presented with genres that only belong to images or videos, etc.
  
  
• Search : Sorting allows charcters to be typed now, but I have no indication of what I'm allowed to type. If I type in the name of a valid field, then it works fine, but wouldn't it be better to provide a list of valid fields to choose from?
  
  
• Search : If you choose a Search Criteria, then choose Edit by Typing, and hit Ctrl-C to copy and go to a different smartlist and hit Ctrl-V to paste, the entire list of Search Criteria is copied instead of just the one you wanted. I can see a need for both behaviors.
  
  
• Playlists : If I drag a playlist out of one group and into another group, MJ presents me a with white square plus icon, which, based on standard Windows GUI behavior indicates a copy behavior, but instead is a move. I think this should behave exactly like Windows Explorer's drag and drop, including using Shift and Ctrl to modify the behavior, and allowing the Right Click drag that Windows has. It would just be more intuitive to people alreay using Windows.
  
  
• Transitioning from a Quicktime file (mov) results in a crash.
  
  
• Adding images and music to Playing Now isn't consistent. If audio is already in Playing Now, then Adding images to Playing Now results in those images being tacked on to the end of Playing Now (but are never shown - even when their turn in Playing Now arrives), if music is played first, then images are played, Playing Now is wiped and only images are shown, but if images are played first, and then music is added, the desired result of images and audio simultaneously is acheived.
  
  
• If I Play images, then Play a playlist with music and video in it, the slideshow clears immediately even if the first file to play is Audio.
  
  
• When viewing images and listening to music, if Playing Now contains a video, playing that video will clear all images from slideshow.
  
  
• MEGA-ME Skinning : Renaming a playlist gives me the following drawing bug:
  
  (http://doof.webryders.com/MJ/Screenshots/rename.jpg)
  
  
• Ever since Tree View got the ability to display individual items in the tree, Quick Play acts all funky. I can't choose an individual file to play from Media Library without also telling the Tree View to display track names.
  
  
• Image List View : This doesn't select files correctly. If you select one file, then hold control to select a few more, that works. If you hold down shift and select a range, that works as well. But when holding down Control + Shift to add a range of files to the currently selected files, all of the currently selected files become unselected.
  
  
• Content View : You can now right click on a filename and rename the file right from MJ. Cool. The only problem was that I accidentally (ok, it wasn't really an accident) renamed a file to Pink - Just Like a Pill.Apl2 (note the 2 at the end of the extension). Attempting playback now works, but when I then used the same method to rename the file back to what it was (with just .apl) I received the following message:
  
  (http://doof.webryders.com/MJ/Screenshots/failed.jpg)
  
  After which MJ's link to that file was broken. While MJ's database has the filename listed with .apl, the actual filename is still .apl2. Once I manually renamed the file in Explorer, everything worked fine again.
  I thought I had read that this was fixed, but it doesn't seem to be the case...
  
  
• Trying to download any kind of plugin or skin through our proxy server/firewall results in a message of "Failed to connect to a server." This is after it prompted me for my username, password, and domain to get through our firewall. This has worked in the past, but has always been problematic.
  

System Info

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.86 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1665 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 204 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive H:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: HP CD-WRITER+ 9300   Addr: 2:1:0  Speed:10  MaxSpeed:10  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Drive G: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-240B   Addr: 2:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Doof on December 05, 2002, 05:30:19 pm

New Requests

• CD Burning : It would be really helpful if you could right click on a CD-RW drive and choose to erase a CDRW disc from there instead of having to go into the CD burning dialog.
  
  
• CD Burning : It would also be really nice to have some sort of progress indicator when erasing a CDRW disc.
  
  
• IE Integration : Any chance of seeing some way to right click on an image in IE or Netscape and automatically saving the picture and importing it into MJ?
  

Old Requests

• Vis Bars : I'd (still) like to see seperate hide modes for each of MJ's display modes (Internal, External, Fullscreen). I'd like to have them never hide in Internal, but autohide in Fullscreen & External, for instance.
  
  
• Rename from Properties & Fill Properties from Filename : Any way we could get a wizard-type interface for this like we now have (more or less) with the Search bar?
  
  
• mini-me Skinning : Kerensky had a whole list of skinning features that are currently found in other media apps (like Winamp 3 and Sonique 2). I'd like to add my voice in support of these. Here's the list for reference.
  
  
  
  
  • Mega-Me and Mini-Me should have the same skinning features/abilities.
    
    
  • Skinning engine should have all the features that Winamp 3.0 has.
    
    
  • Mini-me skins should be able to display the left media tree pane, instead of just the playlist pane.
    
    
  • Instead of having to use standard fonts, include support for skinned fonts. This is where, with .bmps, you can map out a alphabet, and numbers that the player would use instead of a regular font. Quintessential, Coolplayer, and Winamp 3 already support this with their skinning engines and it's one of the coolest features I've ever seen.
    
    
  • When the mute function, I'd like a way to keep the mute button displaying the down .bmp while the player is muted.
    
    
  • With playlists in mini-me mode, there should be the ability to customize what info in displayed. The default seems to be Track # - Artist - Song Name - Song Length. This may be possible already, but I haven't been able to find out how. Personally I'd just like to display Track # - Song Name - Song Length.  
    
    
  • When displaying the elapsed or remaining time, allow skin authors to specify how many digits are displayed at any one time. Right now from what I can see, MJ displays only as many digits as is needed (with most songs usually m:ss), but for instance in one of my skins I'd like to specify that the elapsed time be displayed like hh:mm:ss always even is the unused digits only display 0's when not being used.
    
    
  • Add support for Windows XP features like ClearType font smoothing and Alpha Blending Window edges.
    
    
  • Include ability to specify the background color of the currently playing song.
    
    
  • Include ability to change the icons throughout MJ.
    
    
  • Include ability to use the media library search bar in skins.
    
  
  
  
• Replay Gain : MJ really needs Album Gain. If Playing Now contains a full album, use Album Gain, otherwise, use Radio Gain. If it's a mix between a full album and mixed tracks, check to see if the tracks belonging to the album are all in track order. If so, use Album Gain on those tracks. If not, use Radio Gain on the entire Playing Now list.
  
  
• Image List View : Can there be some "missing image" image? Like the MJ logo in place of a blank square? Or a red circle with a line through it? Or better yet, an image that we can specify for all missing artwork?
  
  
• Image List View : For the single image album art view, there needs to be a way to see the tracks belonging to that album. Maybe a multipaned view that shows the cover image on the left and the track names on the right? Or even a tooltip balloon like the ones that Rhino is using in his AlbumView plugin.
  
  
• Content View : Can all views remember their own view settings? Basically, what I'd like to see is Playing Now being able to just display Artist, Album, Name, and Track #, but have Media Library display more detailed information, like filename, BPM, etc. I'd also like to be able to specify that an Album view scheme display the album art view, but an Artist view shows the regular text view, etc. Playing Now should be able to be independently set to always show list view or image view, etc.
  
  
• Slideshow : How about an option to display the filename of the current file in Fullscreen mode?
  
  
• Ripping : I'd also like to see MJ be able to rip a CD to one wav\ape\mp3 and create a CUE sheet. Being able to create the relevant APL or whatever files in addition would be great along with an option to either import the full album wav\ape\mp3 or not.
  
  
• Visualizations : Can these remember what Display Quality to use based on what mode (Full Screen, MEGA-ME, mini-me) MJ is in?
  
  
• Can we get an option in Skin Manager to close Skin Manager on skin change?
  
  
• I've heard rumor that some of the options dialogs are going to be redesigned. This is, IMO, a GREAT thing. I'm going to suggest changes as I see them, so to start, here's one that's bugged me for quite a while.
  
  
  
  
  • In order to change the Sorting options, you need to 1. Select the field you want to move. 2. Click Edit. 3. Click Move Selected Up/Down. Wouldn't it be simpler to allow dragging of items? Or even two arrows (up/down) beside this box that would move the items?
    
    
  • Also, what does "Track # for Albums" mean and why would I want it checked? Why would I want it UNchecked? I've never seen it make any difference either way. If it actually has a purpose, it should be more clearly explained. And can somebody explain it to me? :)
    
  
  

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2002, 06:00:28 pm

I really like what you did with RG. I'm gonna have to test it out later. However, is it possible to add just an "Automatic" mode along with "Automatic based on current playlist" to adjust for every song?

Thanks! And the gain does change on a track-by-track basis in "Automatic", because "automatic" is for the adjustment, which gets added to the track's replay gain value.  If I'm missing the boat, start a new thread, and we'll get it figured out.

5. NEW: Playlist groups now remember their view mode. (delete auto smartlists, restart, then clicking on the root of auto smartlists will be fast)

It's the bar at the bottom when you look at a playlist.  We'll address other view-specific things like sorting, columns, etc. before release.

studentii

Thanks ;D (and we'll try not to disappoint)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Yaobing on December 05, 2002, 06:02:31 pm

Quote

When starting time-shift, audio is muted

Make sure Wave control is not muted, and volume not too low.

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When starting time-shift a message comes along the bottom of the screen that says "a suitable codec could not be found. Video will be recorded uncompressed. I checked the recording settings, and the JRiver codec for time-shift is the one selected.

Maybe the JRiver Video Codec is not properly installed and/or not registered.

Can you find the file MJVideoEncoder.Ax in the TV subfolder and manually register it?

Quote

Scanning for channels still "seems" to lock up after 20 or so channels. If left to its own devices, it eventually fills the list, but it seems like it's locked up until it finishes

I am aware of this. It seems more like a window repainting problem.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: scub on December 05, 2002, 06:54:15 pm

Quote

On another note:   Has anyone seen the Cover Art while using the Media Server ... Ive never had it work ... whether the files are Embedded <inside file> or on the remote PC.

Nope doesn't work for me either.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Mastiff on December 05, 2002, 09:32:39 pm

Quote

Media Center 9.0.86 beta is available.    
   
26. NEW: Media Center has multi-zone playback!!! (check out "Player Zones" under the far right button in the lower-left player area)

Hallelujah! This is what I have been waiting for! I'm really looking forward to see the implementation of it (I'll start downloading as soon as I finish writing this! And you were leading us to believe that any form of multi-zone was months away...you little rascals!  ;D

Thanks, guys! This might be the thing that finally eradicates that blasted WinAmp from my system!  8)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Faruz on December 05, 2002, 09:57:45 pm

1. Still not full albums are reported to be full if you have only 1 track and it happens to be #1.

2. When searching for cover art, the search is done for track "artist" instead of "Album artist"

3. When an audio CD is not recognized by YADB, it enters the database as Audio CD(1) even after you change properties.

4. Some low bitrate (<=112) songs can not be analyzed. Is there something you can do about it?

5. Can't delete "Auto smartlists (Video & Image)" it returns everytime I re-open MC.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Mastiff on December 05, 2002, 10:27:08 pm

Not fixed: NetRemote crashes when opening the library panel in MC9. Might be a Web Remote bug, but it actually worked for a few minutes when I had the PPC in it's cradle. Then it went down again. Go figure!  
It is more variable with this version than the last, that crashed every time. Now it happens totally random, except for that I managed to get it to crash every time when having NetRemote on a page with feedback (of track name, number and time) and then changing to one of the other zones (the bathroom). Strangely enough it did not happen when changing to the other zone (the bedroom). 8)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Faruz on December 06, 2002, 01:04:14 am

1. When marking more than one song to lookup in YADB the search is done (I think) only to the last song marked and returns an answer (usually) of 0-10 files found.
If it does find a result it puts the results on the first song marked (though it found the answer of the last).

2. The Track# recieved from YADB is all screwed up, I usually get a four digits number...

3. Again requesting an explanation on BPM/Intensity/RG and all the other new fields. Thanks.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: nila on December 06, 2002, 02:47:18 am

BUG

• Media Server, Options, General: 'Don Not Respond...'
  Should be 'Do Not Respond'.
  
• Cannot find an option to allow me to specify the address for opening a Media Server connection - just tries to find them. It tells me:
  Invalid Media Server Information
  nila.mshome.net:1234 (this computer is called nila).
  bindi:80 (other computer is called bindi)
  
  It then fails to connect.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: webtree on December 06, 2002, 03:53:03 am

Using the thumbnail view in MC9.0.86 I have a playlist with 3400 images in and some music, but the view took a thumbnail of the images, and this is stored in MC somewhere.  The images have since been altered, but the thumbnail is still the old image.  When playing the correct image is displayed, yet I cannot find any way of updating the thumbnail.

Both in the playlists and the media view the thumbnail is wrong.  If I go to properties in media view and look at the image there it is correct, with the wrong thumbnail.

(http://www.mcwebtree.com/MJ9/badthum.gif)

Req: Also if you right click on the playlist of images there is play, but no show, if you select images in the main window and right click there is a show option.  Any chance of having a show option on the right click in the left pane on playlists or media view?

Regards
Mark

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: orangarot on December 06, 2002, 05:13:28 am

open: clicking on my burner device freezes the programm for 5 minutes

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: Marko on December 06, 2002, 05:14:46 am

"Automatically Import into Library" still not working here.
A few builds ago, the entry would appear in the library after MC had been restarted, now even that does not happen. (I'm talking about d'clicking an .mp3 file in explorer here)

Cannot import .m3u files. D'clicking an m3u file in explorer opens up MC, and that is all, playlist is NOT mirrored in "playing now"

"Analyze Audio" is still replacing id3v2 comment field with the intensity value.

Nag box still refers to "Media Jukebox" btw ;)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: RemyJ on December 06, 2002, 06:20:23 am

Quote

BUG

• Media Server, Options, General: 'Don Not Respond...'
  Should be 'Do Not Respond'.
  
• Cannot find an option to allow me to specify the address for opening a Media Server connection - just tries to find them. It tells me:
  Invalid Media Server Information
  nila.mshome.net:1234 (this computer is called nila).
  bindi:80 (other computer is called bindi)
  
  It then fails to connect.

Media Servers are now cataloged in the library manager.  The search function is is broken as you've discovered but you add a new remote library manually with a location like "m01p://bindi:80" and it'll work.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: webtree on December 06, 2002, 06:37:39 am

Question:
If you are looking up say 500 tracks in YADB, and cancel after 42 for some reason, will it make changes to the first 40 which it has consulted about, (if it finds anything), and if so does it tell you about it anywhere.  Like it does when it is complete, found X or Y records.  Or are changes applied when it finishes the scan of all tracks, and cancelling will therefore cancel any changes pending?  I can't test it as it seems unable to find any of my 3500 tracks!  

Req: Status check if lookup cancelled, (how many of the files searched if any were matched?)

P.S. Minor screen refresh issue when calling YADB.  It fixes itself after the first "consulting YADB" dialog at record 10.

(http://www.mcwebtree.com/MJ9/norefresh.gif)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: udeups on December 06, 2002, 07:24:57 am

When I copy cover art from a website and paste into the cover art section of file properties. It creates a black image. This is repeatable using different mp3 files and different websites from which I get the cover art into the copy/paste buffer

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: 10sne1 on December 06, 2002, 12:12:49 pm

BUG:  When I select a few files after search in Media Library and then right click and select properties - there is no drop down list under Genre.  I can write something in the Genre field for tagging though.  I do get the drop down list, as long as I haven't selected a group of files from a displayed list.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.86 beta
Post by: JNKH on December 06, 2002, 12:44:27 pm

BUG:

When I right click to pop up the TOOL menu, both in the TREE area and the LIST area, MC does not work.

a) After I right click, MC waits.  The MENU Bar changes to the default Window's style, the mouse cursor changes to a wait symbol, and then MC return to the default MENU Bar style of MC.  The Pop Up menu never appear.

b) The right click is very important because functions like MOVE/COPY files, or LOCATE files are only available on right click.  Can MJ put these functions in the TOOL button or at the MENU BAR as well.  When I use the Button or Menu Bar, I do not experience the problem.

c) The bug seems to be related to when the right menu is clicked, MC does some initialization or processing, and it runs into trouble.  The sympton for me is that the MC MENU BAR changes color or style.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: bennyd on December 06, 2002, 01:05:11 pm

for build 87:

- Exporting a playlist to m3u uses playlist.m3u as name in stead of the playlist name
- Playing a stream web station, MC adds a playlist and imports the stream as a file.
- Left tree collapses on startup
- Limit to Minutes does not work (e.g. limit to 5 minutes does not return my files underneath 5 minutes)
- Uploading more than 100 files to my Handheld device gives an error at the end "error opening file" and not all files are uploaded then
- When sending e.g. 5 mp3's to external tool MP3Gain, it opens 5 times MP3Gain i.s.o. Adding those 5 files to 1 MP3Gain and those 5 MP3Gain instances have all the same file in it.
- When deleting a file with shift from Playing now when a song is playing, the focus of the currently playing song is gone

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: KingSparta on December 06, 2002, 01:29:33 pm

>> 5. Fixed: Image height and width were not being
>> imported for .jpg files. (use Tools -> Update DB from File(s) to correct old files)

>> use Tools -> Update DB from File(s) to
>> correct old files
1. I can't find this option

2. Even Using "update library (from tags - Always)" it does not give Image height and width.

deleting files then re-importing them does not fill in Image height and width

I see no change.


Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1798 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 259 MB, Free - 44 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   chord.wav

Burning /  Drive D: LITE-ON LTR-40125S   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Matt on December 06, 2002, 01:45:55 pm

King

Height and width only apply to images, not audio files like mp3's.  Are you saying JPG's aren't getting their dimensions imported, or do you mean mp3 files? (we could maybe show height and width for the images inside an mp3, but it'd be kind of a tricky change, so we probably won't for now)

bennyd -- Limit to Minutes does not work (e.g. limit to 5 minutes does not return my files underneath 5 minutes)

Limit is for limiting the length of the whole resulting playlist.  Use [duration]=<60 to get the tracks under 1 minute.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: KingSparta on December 06, 2002, 02:22:19 pm

Matt

>> or do you mean mp3 files?
well, I never thought about Just JPG's, since i would never use MC in it's current state for Images.

But If i have an MP3 with a internal or external Image why can't i get MC to see the Size? (other than you did not program it to do that).

The Cover Art I am refering to on My system are external images and I don't see why the external image could not be sized and the info be placed in size fields.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Seviien on December 06, 2002, 03:35:25 pm

v.087 will immediately crash (runtime error) when jumping to the playing now if it is configured to use a visualization

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: broepke on December 06, 2002, 04:01:27 pm

I get the same error with .87 - The second i try to play with pictures (slide show) working i get a CTD (crash to desktop)

However - good news - both the PocketPC fix and the Image with and Height bug are fixed....

Thanks

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on December 06, 2002, 04:53:42 pm

This happens when I play a song and I have "None" selected as my "Display Plug-in".
Cover art showing = runs fine, no errors.

Note: That is the OPPOSITE of the above two posts, isn't it?

(http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/64/64865/folders/46212/290822runtimeerror.jpg)

Consider yourselves contacted.

System Info
Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- d:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Celeron 533 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 260 MB, Free - 96 MB
Resource Info: System - 36 %, GDI - 65 %, User - 36 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F:  40X12X48 CD-RW   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: studentii on December 06, 2002, 05:02:25 pm

V9 MC 9.0.86.beta ( updated )

To: Matt and Nikolay

      Good on ya !!

      It works!!!

               Compilation    yes            100%
                visualisations  yes             90%
                 Encoding         yes          100%
                  De coding        yes         100%
                   Plug ins           Yes         100%
                   Surround Sound  Yes     100%
                   Music detail          Yes     100%
                                                   ( on two track stereo )

                   Ease of installation          100%

                   Official  Credits                not there
                                                   ( can't see them )


                    Retain Play Lists     Not as they were
                    because the Program says that
                    it has to redo that bit.
                    It's not a big deal to recreate
                    PlayLists of your choice


Visualisations need to be " pocketed " automatically
as they were in V8 on the main Splash Screen. They can be pocketed through the Program Menu so it's not so bad, really.

" Rome was not built in a day ".  Construction Work sure goes quick at the JRiver Corp. All we've got left to do is to tidy up the sidewalk ( Matt knows what I mean )


" I just love it when a Plan comes together "
                      Dukes of Hazard ( I think )


Have a really, really good day
Kind regards

Hilary Petrie
Studentii
Australia

Nikolay,

In the Outback where I am we get ambient temperatures up to 45c to 55c at this time of year.
I am quite sure that this heat does affect my computer at times. It usually runs about 30c to 35c in our House even with the Air Conditioner on and in the Winter it's the exact opposite, down to -8c --12c. overnight and then back up to +35c during the day. It's a miracle the computer works at all sometimes.

Regards

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: patdevlin on December 06, 2002, 05:20:18 pm

I upgraded Media Center from version 9.0.84 to version 9.0.87.  

When I did that I could no longer view Track info or Visualizations.  When You hit Play it would go to the Image veiwer in full screen.  If I tried switch to Trackinfo or Visualizations Media Center Crashed.  

I have reloaded version 9.0.84 and got visualizations back but I would like to get some of the fixes yoou have done since that version.

Is there something I am doing wrong??  Has anyone elsehad this Problem?  I have not seen mention of it ina any of the posts.

Thanks

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: KeystoneCop on December 06, 2002, 05:57:27 pm

If I am in "playing now" and select a file while in AGENT to play, media center abends, if I am in MEDIA LIBRARY it is ok.  hope this helps to fix things.  also why not change the help interact to go to version 9.. i know more typing for you, but a lot less for the rest of us.  thanks hoipe this helps

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: studentii on December 06, 2002, 07:18:15 pm

To:  ZRocker

On 5th December 2002, 9.11 p.m., ZRocker expressed some concern at the " efficiency " of the MJ Rip and Burn
reference to Data Discs if I understood correctly.

I shall be testing this tonite as I have quite a few Cds to encode and reburn.  had no touble with it before.
But tonite I shall be using .087.

I'll report back.

Student ii

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: studentii on December 06, 2002, 07:23:37 pm

To:  Keystone Cop

great logo. So do I ( hate computers that is )

I'd much rather be Drivin' or  " DJ 'ing "


Regards

Studentii
Long live Rock

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: studentii on December 06, 2002, 07:33:33 pm

To:  Matt

I read with much interest your comments on the db thing.
As we are both aware, db  is as important to sound reproduction as flour is to a good cake.

I should like to get involved in this discussion. I will need to put my " thinking cap " on first., so my article doesn't get too technical or too long ( easy for me, unfortunately )

I'll get back you on this

Regards
Studentii

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: mcphzgig on December 06, 2002, 08:16:29 pm

In 9.0.87, I get an instant run-time error (as below, but drive c:\) as soon as I start to play any track.

(http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/64/64865/folders/46212/290822runtimeerror.jpg)

Track continues to play, and visualization continues to function, until I close above message, followed rapidly by abort.

Problem goes away when I reinstall 9.0.86.

System info...
Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)
Intel Unknown 178 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 57 MB

[If this machine looks small and slow, that's because it's only my laptop. But the Compaq spec. says its a 1.2 Ghz P3.]

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: matthewmattical on December 06, 2002, 09:21:18 pm

Little bug: Doing an "update library (from tags - always)" on a file that has been analyzed (has replay gain, bpm, etc.) results in the BPM value getting some extra zeros added to it. After updating some files, I've ended up with a lot of 98000 BPM songs and such.

Otherwise, .86 and .87 have fixed every other bug I've been worrying about lately...thanks a ton guys!

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: ph_bradley on December 06, 2002, 10:39:05 pm

I am having the same problem as mcphzgig; if i were able to stop the vis from playing, I think the problem would stop; but I can't do that unless a song is playing, in which case i still cant because the program crashes. How can I manually edit my registry to stop MC9.0.87 playing vis's?

Media Jukebox  9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium III 135 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 130 MB, Free - 31 MB
Resource Info: System - 59 %, GDI - 64 %, User - 59 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1017) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1998 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: BACKPACK CD-REWRITER-4B   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Drive G: BACKPACK CD-REWRITER-4B   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

(by the way, the above info is wrong, maybe this system info is a bit buggy on older machines...)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: ph_bradley on December 06, 2002, 10:44:40 pm

there's a way around this in the meantime for anyone who, like me, needs their daily ration of music ;)
Just shun Playing Now completely! if you don't switch automatically to playing now or full screen when clicking the play button (there is an option for this remember) it'll run fine. This means you lose playlist functionality, but if you load your entire playlist, you can then click any song in your media library and itll start playing.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: matthewmattical on December 07, 2002, 12:55:06 am

Guess I spoke too soon: analyzing replay gain once again seems to have a memory leak and eats up all my RAM after about 10 files. It worked beautifully in .96 with all of my files.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: michel on December 07, 2002, 01:19:28 am

• Massive tagging takes too much memory.
• No 'cancel' buttom to stop "saving tag changes" operation. A real problem in case of massive tagging moreover because of the previous point above.
• Thanks for the 'progress' information, it is a safe improvement.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: LarryJoe on December 07, 2002, 02:16:51 am

Runtime errors here too.  A work around is to put display in Window mode.  I went back to 86 and all is fine (I don't want to deal with it over the weekend)

Title: IMPORTANT BUG
Post by: Tolga on December 07, 2002, 03:02:04 am

runtime error: going to playing now while playing a song
Tested on 9.0.87.

if you move to playing from another view while a song is playing, run time error terminates MJ.
this does not occur if nothing is playing. Seems to be a quite stable bug. (I mean bugwise).

let me know if you need more information on this

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Mike Noe on December 07, 2002, 04:11:51 am

Echo LarryJoe, Tolga, same "runtime" error msg box as above.  I have two zones configured, one for the on-board Yamaha, one for RME PST.

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 449 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 96 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: HP CD-WRITER+ 8200   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: scub on December 07, 2002, 05:15:21 am

When in thumbnail mode the arrow keys don't work properly.  I can only move between the first 2 thumbnails left/right.  Up/down works fine.

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 736 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 41 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: LITE-ON LTR-40125S   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: broepke on December 07, 2002, 06:09:31 am

I got 87 to work.  I took this from KingSparta's post in another thread and it worked fine... (I will add my comments to it as well)

Steps to Remove the Crash with 87:

1) Uninstall the old version and Reinstall 87 (I even cleaned out the install (removed) directory just in case)

2) Rename your cover art folder to anything else.

3) Open MC, go to Tool > Option File Naming and Locations and update your cover art path to the new folder.

All should be well now.  You may want to update your library as well but mine worked fine without it.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: KingSparta on December 07, 2002, 07:43:26 am

Quote

I got 87 to work.  I took this from KingSparta's post in another thread and it worked fine... (I will add my comments to it as well)

Steps to Remove the Crash with 87:

1) Uninstall the old version and Reinstall 87 (I even cleaned out the install (removed) directory just in case)

2) Rename your cover art folder to anything else.

3) Open MC, go to Tool > Option File Naming and Locations and update your cover art path to the new folder.

All should be well now.  You may want to update your library as well but mine worked fine without it.

I am not sure that fixed it, since it now have the crash back.

i think it has somthing to do with playing now (maybe template)

it seems if you play from "Media Library" it's fine.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: DocLotus on December 07, 2002, 08:20:57 am

Getting same runtime error as soon as 87 loads.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: broepke on December 07, 2002, 10:55:36 am

I got 87 to work.  I took this from KingSparta's post in another thread and it worked fine... (I will add my comments to it as well) Steps to Remove the Crash with 87: 1) Uninstall the old version and Reinstall 87 (I even cleaned out the install (removed) directory just in case)   2) Rename your cover art folder to anything else.   3) Open MC, go to Tool > Option File Naming and Locations and update your cover art path to the new folder. All should be well now.  You may want to update your library as well but mine worked fine without it.

I agree with KingSparta now - I get the crash again.  But only about 40% of the time with the above changes.  The way i am running it is by plaing a play list then browsing to some images (digital camera pictures) and "show" 'ing them - seems to work for a while then will core dump.  Oh well.  I tried.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: LarryJoe on December 07, 2002, 11:01:35 am

The first thing I did was uninstall, delete all MC directories and clean the registry.  The runtime error is not worth the effort to workaround, rename folders, etc.  I am sure they will fix it on Monday.

It definitely has to do with visualizations embedded in playing now.  Again, if you set display to play in a Window before playing media, it will not crash, but note that there will be no visualization playing in the Window regardless if you have it set to.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Fastyves on December 07, 2002, 11:15:02 am

Unable to play any song : Runtime Error ! - same as CVIII, mcphzgig and others.

Back to 9.0.85

Yves.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: michel on December 07, 2002, 01:11:37 pm

• no "progress" information until to get 'audio analysis' windows (that is very long to get it in case of large selection)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: JNKH on December 07, 2002, 02:36:15 pm

CRITICAL RUNTIME BUG

I can switch between the START and PLAYING NOW view.  But when I start playing, and I switch from START to PLAYING NOW, MC shows a critical run-time bug from Microsoft C++





Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1296 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 654 MB, Free - 353 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PHILIPS CDD4851 CD-R/RW   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Drive F: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W4012A   Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: ZRocker on December 08, 2002, 07:33:20 am

Bugs:

1. When pasting tracks to the Playing Now list (probably any list), MC always pastes the tracks at the desired position and then jumps & highlights the currently playing track (moving the focus)...that's not nice.  It be much nicer if MC left the position on the track that was selected/focused prior to the paste.  Try pasting a track to play every other time in a list of, say, 20 tracks using just the keyboard...argh...silly MC keeps moving the selection after every paste (Ctrl-V).

2. When you highlight and delete tracks in a playlist, MC deletes the selected tracks and highlights the same number of tracks that slide up and replace those tracks deleted (in the displayed list)....very confusing and annoying.

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Doof on December 08, 2002, 07:45:19 am

Bugs

• If you right click on the very end of the list of columns (provided your columns don't make the content view scroll to the left and you have a blank column at the end) to add a column, that column gets added at the very beginning instead of the very end.
  
  
• Playing Now : Moving the column with the playing icon in it to another position takes the playing icon along with it.
  
  (http://doof.webryders.com/MJ/Screenshots/playingnowicon.jpg)
  

Requests

• I think the menu item for Toggle List Style should cascade, opening up all of the list styles. The toolbar button would work better if it opened a menu up as well like the Favorites button works. Maybe make the button one of those two-buttons-in-one like IE has, where if you just click it, it jumps through the different list styles, but if you click the little down arrow next to it, it opens up a menu where you can choose a specific view style.
  
  
• It would be really nice if when you were dragging columns around in Content View, if it would scroll. It would make reordering columns a lot easier.
  

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: MachineHead on December 08, 2002, 08:09:19 am

BUG:

Rearrange folders for a data burn causes instant crash. Hmmm, hang on a minute.

UPDATE: After two shutdowns it works? List sent to burner was from a smartlist based on -> Rating=1. Well, I don't know why it started to behave.  ?

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System Info J.I.C.

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- D:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium II 333 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 130 MB, Free - 47 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: No /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B   Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: TURBO on December 08, 2002, 12:57:24 pm

Guys, the only way to get rid of the run time error is to close the visualizations. Period. After you set up to view "playlist only" in playing now, everything works fine again. So the problem is in the vis....Cool down boys 8)

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: Mr.X on December 08, 2002, 03:17:01 pm

BUG:

Strange behaviour when shuffle playing:

Start playing a shuffled playlist.
Click on "GO Start" in tree view
Press "STOP"
Press "PLAY"
You'll hear the first song in the playlist again, but all songs below it have been shuffled again.

Start playing a shuffled playlist.
Click on "Playing Now"
Press "STOP"
Press "PLAY"
Play will continue with the song you were just playing, and no re-shuffling will take place.

-Mr.X

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: RemyJ on December 09, 2002, 05:20:10 am

(also posted in the New MJ Burner thread)

OK, I've got 2 serious data CD problems with 9.0.87

Both of these problems have been reported by others but I can reproduce them at will.

• Files have the ID3V1 tag of a different file written at the start of the file and their own ID3V1 tags are missing from the end.  Two consistent albums:
  Kinks: BBC Sessions 1964 - 1977
  Warren Zevon: The Best of Warren Zevon
  
  
• Some album directories are inaccessable.  From a command line I get "The system cannot find the path specified".  From the windows explorer, I get "This folder was moved or removed."   It appears that only the last artist get's it tracks written.  Of the following, only Poco/Legend had files in it.  
  D:\Paul McCartney & Wings\Wingspan - Hits & History (Disc 1)
  D:\Paul McCartney & Wings\Wingspan - Hits & History (Disc 2)
  D:\Pearl Jam\Riot Act
  D:\Pete Townshend\Pete Townshend Live_ A Benefit for Maryville Academy (Disc 1)
  D:\Pete Townshend\Pete Townshend Live_ A Benefit for Maryville Academy (Disc 2)
  D:\Poco\Legend
  If I burn only Paul McCartney, it works.  If I burn Paul McCartney and Pearl Jam, only Pearl Jam has files.
  
  

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  Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\
  
  Microsoft Windows 2000  Server 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
  Intel Pentium 4 1781 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 335 MB
  
  Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
  Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
  
  Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeSecure   CD Type:ASPI   Read speed:Max
   Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
   Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  
  
  Burning /  Drive D: TDK CDRW4800B   Addr: 0:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  Lib:3  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:Yes
   Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
   Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
  
  

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: duhva on December 09, 2002, 06:36:44 am

Another type of runtime error:

I connect to the Internet, insert an audio CD into the CD-ROM drive, and it kicks open MC (9.0.87). Music starts to play, then I get a Microsoft C++ Runtime Error Message box, which goes away when I click OK, but takes MC with it.

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.87 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 270 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 62 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: duhva on December 09, 2002, 07:00:43 am

CD Playback Errors

Matt, when I play an audio CD on 9.0.87 I get a popping of "tccsk"ing sound. When I play back that same CD on Windows Media Player, it sounds fine. When I play back mp3 files I ripped using MC on MC, they sound fine.

I have this problem with the release before last of v8, but it went away when I updated to v9, but has now come back with this version.

System info same as previous post.

Let me know if you have any suggestions. Thanks.

-duhva

Title: Re: Media Center 9.0.87 beta (UPDATED)
Post by: kentschu on December 09, 2002, 10:12:48 am

In addition to all the UNC (Universal Naming Convention) bugs that another user posted, there is also a MAJOR bug using UNC when ripping CD's.

I'm trying to rip a CD to a UNC path and it crashes the entire program every single time.  As soon as I restart and enter a drive letter path instead, it works fine.

I hope this one can be fixed soon.

Kent