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Title: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Matt on November 07, 2002, 12:56:19 pm
Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1 is available.

IMPORTANT-- This is beta software -- some things don't work, some things crash, and your database and tags may not be totally safe.
     
If you're sure you want to continue, you can download the preview here:
     
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox90074.exe

Changes    
   
1. Fixed: Drag-n-drop and rename tree logic didn't work properly with groupings.
2. Fixed: MJ extension manager didn't work. (couldn't find MJ)
3. Fixed: A bug causing only the field "custom 2" to get upgraded. ("custom 1" and "custom 3" were excluded)
4. Changed: Album Artist will now get created / imported on upgrade or if importing a version 8 file with MJ meta data in it.
5. Fixed: Changing DB fields didn't update the "dirty" state of the DB, so MJ could be closed without changes getting saved.
6. Fixed: The optional "Delete from disk" was not working.
7. Fixed: Display plugins were no longer functioning.
8. Fixed: Encoders work again.
9. Fixed: Encoder download (on first use of some encoders) works more smoothly.
10. Fixed: Custom playback settings were not being used.
11. Fixed: CD text with new burn engine was being written the old way ("artist - album" for the title).
12. Fixed: After burning an audio CD, YADB window won't pop up anymore.
13. Fixed: When burning an audio CD, user can choose whether to use playback settings (e.g. cross-fade).
14. Fixed: The "use internal burning engine" checkbox now works. Previously MJ always used the new internal burn engine.

Keep in mind that at this stage, we're getting more bug reports than we can fix each build. Please keep a list of bugs you find, and re-report anything that doesn't get fixed each build.      
     
Thanks for your help, support, and patience.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: NoCodeUK on November 07, 2002, 01:03:49 pm
Oooohh...the first official beta ;D

Congratulations guys!!

Adam
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 07, 2002, 01:17:09 pm
But the splah screen indicates still "alpha"...

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Griff on November 07, 2002, 01:22:53 pm
Video

Nothing done on time shifting, right ?

No rush.

Dont see any diff.

Thanks
The Griff
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 01:32:17 pm
Analize still Crashes MJ

is there something i can try to fix it?

Should I Uninstall And Re-Install?

Does This Happen To Others?
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 07, 2002, 01:32:33 pm
May be there is a problem with MJ8 licence because I just restored a key and it says "invalid licence" (same problem with 073 but not with 072).
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 01:35:14 pm
When Trying To Convert A MP3 MJ Keeps Asking Me If I Want To Install The MP3 VBR Encoder, And Tells Me It Is A Invalid Package File.

So i went to the plug-ins page and it allowed me to download it.

I think MJ has a problem within (maybe wrong link for the vbr encoder)
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: NoCodeUK on November 07, 2002, 01:42:24 pm
Heres my list so far:

Bugs in Beta 1:

* Maximise/Restore button does not change state to show current behaviour [UPDATE: This is in fact an error in the Z skin.  It does not have a bitmap for the restore button, hence the button does not change]
* Play/Pause button in full screen view does not change state.  Although the display bar changes it would be helpful for those who aren't in the know if the button showed the pause symbol when a file is playing so they knew this would pause the track.
* Clicking on Scan for TV channels without a TV Tuner card causes MJ to display an error message then crash(Okay I know most people wouldn't do this but it crashes all the same ;D)
* Some of my files are still crashing the audio analyser.  MJ downloads an MP3 plugin tries to start and then crashes.  I then get a dialog box saying "The Instruction at "0x77f51e3f" referenced memory at "0x00080100".  The memory could not be "written".  Click on OK to terminate the program.  The title of the dialog is CiceroUIWndFrame: Media Jukebox.exe - Application Error
* Clicking on the options at the bottom of playing now (files in playlist, files not in playlist etc.) with a random smartlist always reruns the smartlist meaning you get different results rather than showing the rest of the library for what is not in the playlist...
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 01:56:43 pm
My "Duration" Fields Are Blank

If I Encode It Gets Filled Out, But All the ones that are in the list are blank.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 02:03:25 pm
After i encoded 5 wav files to mp3, the bit rate is still the same as a wav file.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 02:20:19 pm
Enter Something In Comment It mj saves it.

Remove it from the MJ list

Re-Import

The rating is now in rating and also the comment field.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: jgourd on November 07, 2002, 02:20:36 pm
Like Mark said, the analyze function still causes a crash in MJ.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 02:20:57 pm
After re-Import of Mp3's there is no bit rate in that field.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: jgourd on November 07, 2002, 02:23:38 pm
Clicking on any of the hyperlinks on the "Start" page yields "page cannot be displayed" messages and the Mediajukeox v8 Help pops up with the same message.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: NoCodeUK on November 07, 2002, 02:26:59 pm
Part the Second:

* Icon in Add / Remove programs is the media scheduler icon not the MJ Icon
* Arrows to change options in playing now don't actually appear to do anything... (in Playlist, not in playlist etc)
* Horrible buzzing using DIrect Sound if you stop a track while it is playing.  I think this is probably Direct X related rather than MJ
* Would be good if sorting in the content view could be done on a view scheme basis...at the moment it is only on a overall basis meaning we get fields that are irrelevant to the media like width and height for music and bitrate for pics
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: jgourd on November 07, 2002, 02:31:52 pm
Getting cover art from The Internet doesn't work at all. It sits there forever trying to get the first album's cover art. Cancel does work.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: NoCodeUK on November 07, 2002, 02:45:41 pm
* Would it be possible to have an image for when there is no cover art rather than it just showing blank.
* Send to external tool only ever sends one file no matter how many are selected e.g. select some files and select to send to Winamp - only the first one is sent... (Same for playlists too, only one file is sent...)
* Still not possible to sort in the tree view except by alphabetical order
*Statistics view in Hairstyle does not actually bring up the statistics...
*Changing to the Hairstyle skin in Hairstyle and then trying to click on Display Options caused MJ to crash.  After doing this MJ now play Video at all even though I am not in Hairstyle mode...

Adam

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: AMD Athlon 1539 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 196 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32         DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Garfunkle on November 07, 2002, 02:54:01 pm
Track time is not being read from MP3 files, OGGs are fine though *shrugs*.

Also, hairstyle crashes constantly.

Other than that, nothin' new to report.

~ Adam ~

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 897 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 129 MB, Free - 38 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: NoCodeUK on November 07, 2002, 03:23:10 pm
In fact any click on Display Options in Hairstyle will crash it...

UPDATE: Irealised Display Options is not supposed to be a clickable field in Hairstyle, it is move through.  Is there are any way it could be highlighted which options are clcikable and whch lead to another menu??

Adam
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Mr.X on November 07, 2002, 03:24:35 pm
BUGS:

1.  Scanning for TV channels still locks program (at channel 26 right now)

2.  When clicking "yes" to scan for channels, MJ loses focus and goes behind other windows.

3.  Burning with "use internal burn engine" unchecked:

This is the error I get when attempting to burn as "Data" CD:


This is the error I get when attempting to erase a CD-R/W:


When attempting to burn as "Audio CD", the burn seems to proceed normally, however there is nothing burned to the CD!

-Mr.X

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Winstone on November 07, 2002, 03:44:51 pm
Always the same problem.

I can't rip with MP3 encoder.

:(
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: KingSparta on November 07, 2002, 03:45:50 pm
Quote
Getting cover art from The Internet doesn't work at all. It sits there forever trying to get the first album's cover art. Cancel does work.


Yep It's Broken

Local Works
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Shelly on November 07, 2002, 03:53:13 pm
Bugs:

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: nila on November 07, 2002, 03:58:32 pm
I created a view scheme to browse by filename. This crashes MJ instantly when trying to open it.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Doof on November 07, 2002, 04:08:46 pm
Bugs for Media Jukebox ver. 9.0.74

Part 1




System Info

Media Jukebox  9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: AMD Athlon 1666 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 267 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Doof on November 07, 2002, 04:13:14 pm
Bugs for Media Jukebox ver. 9.0.74

Part 2



System Info

Media Jukebox  9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: AMD Athlon 1666 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 267 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Doof on November 07, 2002, 04:13:55 pm
Requests

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Garfunkle on November 07, 2002, 04:51:41 pm
DSP settings are saved properly, but which of them are checked is not. Shut down and restart results in all three being unchecked.

~ Adam ~

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 897 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 129 MB, Free - 25 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: Kurt Young on November 07, 2002, 07:00:38 pm
I'm not sure if this is the same "~a modifier" problem that's been talked about, but with the new beta (kudos on beta, btw, guys), ~a is doing some freaky stuff.

"Before" screenshot (http://www.pimpin-seattle.d2g.com/images/mj9/~a-01.jpg) and "After" screenshot (http://www.pimpin-seattle.d2g.com/images/mj9/~a-02.jpg)

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 931 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 618 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: scub on November 07, 2002, 08:45:22 pm
I notice most beta testers seem to be running Windows XP so I don't know if anyone else has noticed but on Windows 2000 it seem to crash constantly.  If I try to expand audio types in media library it crashes.  Change view from thumbnails to text view and it crashes.  I don't know if this is just on my machine or not, anyone else having problems.  I have uninstalled including a wipe of the registry but it is still happening.  I am reloading an older v9 database (last version) becasue reimporting all over again loses most of my rating and custum fields tags.

Media Jukebox  9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 736 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 154 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 01:01:28 am
Quote
May be there is a problem with MJ8 licence because I just restored a key and it says "invalid licence" (same problem with 073 but not with 072).


I don't know if it could be a confirmation of a problem or not but I uninstalled MJ9, installed MJ8, registered it successfully with the same key which didn't run for MJ9 and then I upgraded to MJ9 and it was registered also.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: jgourd on November 08, 2002, 01:24:31 am
First off,

If Mr X doesn't stop using a .NET password protected MSN web site to host his pictures, I'll be very upset.

With that said, MJ 9 will not even recognise that my 1394 attached CD-R units are in fact, CD-Rs. I can get them recognized as readers no problem once I force them to be detected as IDE.

It doesn't matter who's ASPI I use. My internal is Adaptec 4.72

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 1003 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 628 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 02:52:23 am
MJ let change 'display' attribute of imported customi fields but it seems ineffective (either as column title or as search key.

How we can rename custom fields ?

BTW, import of files with MJ8 custom fields (including custom1 !) and covers is running fine now.

(However I didn't try to upgrade so I cannot confirm it is ok also upgrading)
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 03:09:50 am
If you edit a field in 'Tree & View Settings', even without changing the value, then when you return to the normal display and refresh it, you get all columns displayed.

BTW it is not very comfortable to "disable/enable" a lot of columns through the popup menu. MJ8 was more confortable for that because you can set it in 'Tree & View Settings' (but now this list has another meaning: it is not the list of displayed fields but the list of existing fields).

Also (as said here already) it would be nice to remember which columns are displayed for each view scheme. It would be fine for the same media, it is mandatory for different media (it doesn't make sense to display heigh and width for audio when it makes sense for pictures).

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: JimH on November 08, 2002, 03:23:27 am
Quote
I notice most beta testers seem to be running Windows XP so I don't know if anyone else has noticed but on Windows 2000 it seem to crash constantly.  


Scub,
I run it on Win 2000 on less of a machine at work and it's fine.  Try updating your video drivers.  Try turning off skins.  

Could it be when MJ tries to detect your CD drive?

Please copy and paste to a new thread if you continue to have trouble.

Jim
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 03:56:50 am
Type several search rules, for example:

genre=pop sort=year

If you select "sort=year" and DEL it, MJ crashes.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 04:20:07 am
Quote
My "Duration" Fields Are Blank


Me too but only for mp3 files. ogg and mpc duration are displayed.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: BCPalmer on November 08, 2002, 06:12:47 am
I just downloaded 9.0.74 and can no longer Rip and encode at the same time.  I get an error that any encoder I try to use cannot be found.  I've manually downloaded all the encoders.  If I uncheck Rip and encode simultaneously, it works so I know the encoder is installed.

Brian Palmer

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.74
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium II 300 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 228 MB, Free - 73 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.5436
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0002) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0002)
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: RedJ on November 08, 2002, 06:26:21 am
Most of the previews have been working great for me, but something went horribly wrong with this build, on my machine anyway.



I don't think this is going to be a problem that's easily recoverable.  I'm pretty sure some registry entries are messed up at this rate.

Update
I "updated" to the latest MJ8.x (since I have no other v9 build available to fall back to) and everything is working just fine again.  Not sure it was registry corruption after all.

In addition to this build's problems, the following ongoing feature problems still exist:

Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: nila on November 08, 2002, 06:28:32 am
Bug's:

When viewing an mp3 cd in the devices tree it displays a lot of the information on the cd but doesn't have the bitrate displayed.


Request:

Tools menu in the right click - could this be moved under 'Send To'. It seems a more logical place for it as they're used quite often and having them at the bottom seems to under value them.



Request:

A new item in the Tools menu to: Export Playlist which basically just exports all the selected files into a .m3u playlist onto our hard drives.


Query/Idea/Comment:

At the top of MJ, next to File, Edit, View, Player, there is a 'Tools' option. This is fair enough but it is a bit confusing that this is called Tools and so is the option in the right click menu. I would expect the Tools menu here to have the same tools as the right click. It would be great if these right click tools could be added to the top level menu too. I tried to think of a suggestion for another name for the current Tools menu but couldn't think of one. Sorry :)
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: richelesro on November 08, 2002, 08:30:29 am
- mjextman.exe no longer works for me.
- During import, MJ attempts to download plugins and fails.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: jgourd on November 08, 2002, 08:44:25 am
This is possibly a bug. I find it annoying that pasting cover art into the MP3s commits the changes to the tags right away. If I want to add pictures and alter tag text, I have to wait for each file to be updated twice, once for the picture and once for the text after I use the "apply" command.
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 09:39:50 am
I try to rip.

I set ogg format, "custom". When I push 'advanced' MJ says me that "advanced options are available only for custom quality mode" even I set already "custom"  ?
Title: Re: Media Jukebox 9.0 beta 1...
Post by: michel on November 08, 2002, 10:52:05 am
[web media

Try to play "BBC One TV News". MJ says "contacting..." and then a few seconds later it crashes. It is reproductible.