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Title: No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: ThatAdamGuy on November 18, 2003, 05:39:22 pm

Hi there,

I've been evaluating MC9, and one of the primary uses for me so far has been to convert my PAID Napster downloads to more accessible formats for personal mixing and so on.

But as of the latest version, I find that I'm no longer able to convert these downloads, even for personal use.

Was this a conscious change on the part of the MC programmers, or is this a bug?

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: mikolby on November 18, 2003, 06:01:49 pm

I too would like to know the cause of this.  I've been a loyal customer of JRiver's for probably 2 years.  Now I can't convert my purchased files?  What's the deal?

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: LisaRCT on November 18, 2003, 06:10:15 pm

I'd first suspect Napster rather than MC

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: ThatAdamGuy on November 18, 2003, 06:16:22 pm

Well, in this case, that's not true.  I specifically tried converting immediately before updating, and then converting afterwards.  The new restriction was implemented by MC.

Now perhaps it was at the DEMANDS of Napster, but that's another story :(.

I hope someone from MC will post here letting us know what's going on.

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: mikolby on November 18, 2003, 06:20:52 pm

Exactly.  My version 9.1.291 converted the files perfectly. Once updated to 9.1.304, it states DRM protection file, Failed to convert.  I even loaded the beta 9.1.308, same thing.

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: KingSparta on November 18, 2003, 06:58:23 pm

what format are they?

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: ThatAdamGuy on November 18, 2003, 07:09:37 pm

Secure (DRM'd) WMA

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: KingSparta on November 18, 2003, 07:17:59 pm

there was a change to MJ8 And wma Support also today.

i guess it is a legal issue

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: JimH on November 18, 2003, 08:49:49 pm

Quote from: KingSparta on November 18, 2003, 07:17:59 pm

there was a change to MJ8 And wma Support also today.

i guess it is a legal issue

That's correct.

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: ThatAdamGuy on November 18, 2003, 08:59:34 pm

Bummer :-(.

Could you please see if audio analysis data could be maintained separate from the files, then, so in the very least we could do volume leveling with our Napster clips?

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: twalls on November 19, 2003, 08:21:03 pm

I cancelled my subscription to Napster because of this. I find it interesting to note that, unlike Napster's PURCHASED files, MusicMatch PURCHASED files can still be converted even though they use the protected WMA format as well... How did they pull that one? I think Napster had something to do with this.  >:(

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: KingSparta on November 19, 2003, 08:34:26 pm

I still think most subscription services are a mess.

This thread is turning out to be a moved to the subscription services forum or closed.

All legal companies need to protect them self however

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: markp99 on November 20, 2003, 07:52:58 am

Let's hope that the next *wave* of music stores will provide friendlier (for my iPod :)) file formats and file conversion options...  

Title: Re:No longer can convert paid Napster tunes? :(
Post by: JimH on November 20, 2003, 08:26:48 am

Quote from: markp99 on November 20, 2003, 07:52:58 am

Let's hope that the next *wave* of music stores will provide friendlier (for my iPod :)) file formats and file conversion options...  

It looks likely that AAC will only be offered by Apple and that everyone else will now be offering "protected" WMA.  MP3 files are sold by Emusic and a few others, but the major record labels seem to be now focused on WMA.

Newer handheld devices will probably support MP3, WMA (both with and without protection).