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Networks and Remotes => Media Network => Topic started by: RobOK on December 05, 2003, 07:06:03 pm
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In a couple areas of my playlists, suddenly several playlists do not show up. The full library shows up if i connect from another PC with Media Center, but from Tivo several are missing. I have been trying to find a pattern, but none yet. This has been with the last severl 9.1.* releases, am about to try 10.0.* to see if it works.
I do see some of my Smartlists, i see ALL of the default lists, but some subset of my created playlists do not show up.
Does something happen if it hits a "bad" file -- i.e, a non-Mp3 or a file missing from the library or something. Its like something is happening to make it skip those particular playlists.
Am currently 9.1.313 going to 10.
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Are the file types different? WMA, MP3, etc.
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99.9 % are MP3 (VBR). A couple odds and ends are streams. Dont think any are WMA.
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Okay, some more data points....
I had a list called "Dinner" and it was not showing up on Tivo. Looked in MC and it was a manual list that i never added songs to. I added the songs and now it shows up.
Examples of lists that are NOT showing up are:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Alternative] ~t=360 ~sort=random [Rating]=>3
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Lounge],[Trance] ~t=240 ~sort=random
An example of one that IS working:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Eighties] ~t=60 ~sort=random
For both of the ones that are NOT working on Tivo, they do populate with songs on the PC.
Am now on 10.0.010 and same results.
Is there a limit in the number of songs that can be in a Tivo playlist?
Thanks,
Rob.
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The playlist used as the basis of those above is:
-[Genre]=[Comedy],[Speech] [Bitrate]=>120 [Media Type]=[Audio] -playlistid==54331500 -playlistid==869312499
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As a sidebar, unrelated I think to this issue, the way I get Media Server to work is to select it from the menu, have it crash after about 12-15 seconds and say "Media Server has caused an error in JRREADER.DLL, Media server will now close.", then I select Debug (not Close), which creates 4 Dr. Watson windows that i dismiss. They say "An error occured while loading c:\program files\J river\media center\data -g The system cannot find the file". Each of the four have slight variations.
Once I clear those, Media Server is actually running and then it works fine. Since I run Win ME, i just live with it -- i dont expect you to fix Win ME issues, its a sucky OS.
Another thing i just live with is the MC never finds my CD Burner. Its a HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020. I have burned hundreds of CDs, i just always have to do it with a different program.
Thanks for all your hard work,
Rob.
Media Center Registered 10.0.10 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\
Microsoft Windows Me
Intel Pentium III 863 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 90 MB
Resource Info: System - 17 %, GDI - 44 %, User - 17 %
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shell32.dll: 5.50.4134.100 / wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1014) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1998 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A
Ripping / Drive D: Copy mode:Normal CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive F: Copy mode:Normal CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: Yes / Play sound after ripping: Yes Soundfile: chord.wav
Burning / No burners found.
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: No
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None
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In a couple areas of my playlists, suddenly several playlists do not show up. The full library shows up if i connect from another PC with Media Center, but from Tivo several are missing.
Is anyone else having this problem? If other people could try and test their Tivo with a recent MC build and let me know one way or the other. Thanks!
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Hi Rob,
Media Server will remove any playlist/folder that contains no content from the stuff it sends to the TiVo. This explains some of your problems at least. This functionality was accidentally disabled a while ago, and we fixed it recently.
About the crashing, I'll check more when I get in to work monday.
j
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Hi Rob,
Media Server will remove any playlist/folder that contains no content from the stuff it sends to the TiVo. This explains some of your problems at least.
I understand that, so my Dinner folder with nothing in it, rightly went away. But I have many smart lists that should be fine -- mp3 files in them that should play on Tivo. Is there some other rule about what gets sent to Tivo?
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Examples of lists that are NOT showing up are:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Alternative] ~t=360 ~sort=random [Rating]=>3
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Lounge],[Trance] ~t=240 ~sort=random
An example of one that IS working:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Eighties] ~t=60 ~sort=random
Is there a limit in the number of songs that can be in a Tivo playlist?
Yes, I think it's a problem with the number of songs. How many Alternative tracks do you have? And Lounge/Trance? Eighties?
I did a smart list with no rules (1000+ tracks) and it didn't show up on the TiVo, even if I used the limit modifier.
I'll talk to Matt about this tomorrow.
j
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Another thing i just live with is the MC never finds my CD Burner. Its a HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020. I have burned hundreds of CDs, i just always have to do it with a different program.
Try the MC9 forum for this one.
j
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Examples of lists that are NOT showing up are:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Alternative] ~t=360 ~sort=random [Rating]=>3
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Lounge],[Trance] ~t=240 ~sort=random
An example of one that IS working:
Smartlist: playlistid==883833631 [Genre]=[Eighties] ~t=60 ~sort=random
Is there a limit in the number of songs that can be in a Tivo playlist?
Yes, I think it's a problem with the number of songs. How many Alternative tracks do you have? And Lounge/Trance? Eighties?
I did a smart list with no rules (1000+ tracks) and it didn't show up on the TiVo, even if I used the limit modifier.
I'll talk to Matt about this tomorrow.
j
Eighties is small at 28 (not my favorite genre!) and Alternative is 600+ with no modifiers. I think you are on to something!!!
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I did some more testing.
When it is a stand alone list (i.e. not based on another playlist), it seems not to matter the length.
I have a list for all iPod music defined as:
-[Genre]=[Comedy],[Speech] [Media Type]=[Audio] -playlistid==54331500 -playlistid==869312499
and it results in 5209 songs. That list DOES show up on the Tivo.
The ones where I base it on another list first seems to make it not work when the result set is too large. (200+?).
I hope this helps you debug and get to a solution, in the mean time at least I know I'm not crazy. At least on this topic.
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Fixed in the next build of 10.
j
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Thank you for your responsiveness, both in the forum and then in actually getting a fix implemented. That is why I will continue to support you and your products.
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Thanks, Rob.