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Title: XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 08, 2004, 06:38:46 pm: There is maybe a very good solution to have on MC a useful and complete TV guide that could work for users anywhere around the World. Its XMLTV, an open source project that retrieves TV listings from various sources and saves it in a specified file format.

There is a video recorder called Bayond TV that use this technology at this moment. With this, you can select your country and can get the good TV guide for your place. There is some applications that can help developpers to import in the good format the TV guide...

Maybe you could look at this page for more infos...

http://membled.com/work/apps/xmltv/ (http://membled.com/work/apps/xmltv/)
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: John Gateley on January 08, 2004, 07:08:14 pm: Hi KingDodo,

I've looked at it, but for various reasons it is not feasible to put in MC.

Thanks,

j
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 08, 2004, 07:22:39 pm: Mmmm too bad :( It would be very useful, more than this web page that we must click on many link to have the guide, who is not for no us users, and that have some popups !
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: mlefebvre on January 09, 2004, 01:58:17 am: There IS a XMLTV plugin for MC. See JHC's beta plugin at:

http://ripbar.com/MyPIG/

M.
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: LisaRCT on January 09, 2004, 08:50:21 am: Quote from: John Gateley on January 08, 2004, 07:08:14 pm
Hi KingDodo,

I've looked at it, but for various reasons it is not feasible to put in MC.

Thanks,

j

Sounds like the 'ugly legality beast' has reared it's ugly head once again.

If we had control over the web pages displayed in MC we could chose to use this or whatever without a question legalities . . . . no?
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JimH on January 09, 2004, 08:53:05 am: Our concern is that the information may be being gathered in violation of copyright laws. If so, we can't participate. I honestly don't know, but we try to be careful when we're not sure.
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: NoCodeUK on January 09, 2004, 09:36:49 am: As far as the UK plug in goes the XMLTV feed is provided by ananova news so I think in the UK it is legal...

I couldn't comment on the US data feeds...

Adam
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 10:36:58 am: Hi,

Thanks for MyPig solution. But anyone have succeeded to configure xmltv to work with MyPig? maybe im stupid but i have never been able to configure it.

MyPig is what i have searched for. Integrate it on TV tuner section with TV Guide could be great.
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: phelt on January 09, 2004, 05:33:30 pm: Thanks for the walkthrough, Drowbe. Handy :)
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 05:59:35 pm: Many thanks for theses steps.

But the configuration of XMLTV have created the programs list for some days, must i in the futur do again all steps or MyPig will download automaticly the new programs for next days?

Thanks
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 06:18:11 pm: Other thing, the xml file created have more than 2 or 2.5 mo, this will not be more slower for MC ??

Thanks
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 09, 2004, 07:14:21 pm: Someone just brough this thread to my attention.

Nice to see people talking about MyPIG. I wrote the program and if you have questions or suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks,

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:20:47 pm: Hey, welcome here. MyPig is very great.

But have a question now, i have configured XMLTV and when i load MC with MyPib, it continue to say me that there is no listings for the date... Nothing show on MyPig... Whats wrong?

Suggestion : Maybe you could integrate on MyPig the configuration of XMLTV to make it more easier...
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JimH on January 09, 2004, 07:24:41 pm: Thank you, Jon. We're really glad to have the help.

Jim
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 09, 2004, 07:39:10 pm: Quote from: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:20:47 pm
But have a question now, i have configured XMLTV and when i load MC with MyPib, it continue to say me that there is no listings for the date... Nothing show on MyPig... Whats wrong?

Just go to View / Listings Management and check off the listings you want -- MyPIG will go get them. If people want, I could let you schedule listings updates.

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Suggestion : Maybe you could integrate on MyPig the configuration of XMLTV to make it more easier...

I agree XMLTV is not the easiest to configure. But given that the configuration is generally done once and working with listings is a common activity, I wanted to tackle the viewing of listings, favorites, channel filters etc. first.

Thanks,

Jonathan
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:46:13 pm: Hehe good all works now...

Is MyPig will update the listings next week or i will have to reconfigure again XMLTV ??

Thanks
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 09, 2004, 07:49:14 pm: Quote from: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:46:13 pm
Hehe good all works now...

Is MyPig will update the listings next week or i will have to reconfigure again XMLTV ??

Thanks

You will never have to configure XMLTV.

Just go to View / Listings Management and choose the days you want to download listings for.

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:55:51 pm: :( I have configured XMLTV and downloaded all grid for next 7 days. Now when i go where you say to have the date on MyPig TV, it download again all programs for the day i have set. MyPig dont use the guide.xml file created by XMLTV ?
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 08:25:19 pm: Drowbe, just all very great ideas ;)
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 09, 2004, 09:20:08 pm: Quote from: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 07:55:51 pm
:( I have configured XMLTV and downloaded all grid for next 7 days. Now when i go where you say to have the date on MyPig TV, it download again all programs for the day i have set. MyPig dont use the guide.xml file created by XMLTV ?

MyPIG downloads and uses its own listings -- one XML per day. You don't need to get listings manually with XMLTV -- MyPIG will do it for you.

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 09, 2004, 09:22:14 pm: Quote from: Drowbe on January 09, 2004, 08:19:56 pm
Fantastic plugin, Jon...it was exactly what I needed.

Scheduling updates would be great. Do you have a "notify" list for when you update or do you do an "announce" here?

Thanks for the kind words.

If there's enough interest, I'll set up a separate notify list but for now, I'll announce here.

Thanks,

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 10:00:45 pm: Very happy that someone have suggested to me MyPig and very happy to meet you Jon.

Thanks again for this plugin that i ll continue to say that it should be included with MC !
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: sraymond on January 09, 2004, 10:09:01 pm: Quote from: KingDodo on January 09, 2004, 10:00:45 pm
Very happy that someone have suggested to me MyPig and very happy to meet you Jon.

Thanks again for this plugin that i ll continue to say that it should be included with MC !

This plugin is awesome... But I wanted to point out that while myPIG seems great for Mega-me, it cannot be integrated with Hairstyle. This is the big problem with going the plugin vice built-in route.

Scott-
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: sraymond on January 10, 2004, 02:03:52 pm: Jon,

Are you interested in getting feedback?

Scott-
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 10, 2004, 10:53:53 pm: Quote from: sraymond on January 10, 2004, 02:03:52 pm
Jon,

Are you interested in getting feedback?

Scott-

I am -- feel free to pass on any comments / suggestions.

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: sraymond on January 11, 2004, 02:08:25 am: Quote from: JHC on January 10, 2004, 10:53:53 pm
Quote from: sraymond on January 10, 2004, 02:03:52 pm
Jon,

Are you interested in getting feedback?

Scott-

I am -- feel free to pass on any comments / suggestions.

Jon

OK... here are a few suggestions/comments/questions:

1) How about a button that automatically takes the schedule to *now*?

2) How about a label showing which day is being viewed?

3) How about a few buttons for easy navigation (like NextDay, PreviousDay)? Though maybe you're looking for a clean interface, so this might not be worth the clutter.

4) You have the channel number... is it possible to have a double click change MC to TV Tuner tuned to that channel? Is scheduling a record too hard?

5) What does Filter do? Is seems stuck on [No Filter].

Again, I think you've got a great plugin (I'd certainly put it in the top five!) Thanks.

Scott-
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 11, 2004, 01:21:30 pm: Again, all great suggestions. All things that i would like to see but i dont haved said here :)

Suggestion : Is there a way to make MyPig download the next day automaticly when you load MC ? Exemple, you have downloaded the program listing for next 7 days. When you have passed a day, another day is added on MyPig. It could be great that there is an option that MyPig could download automaticly the listing for this day.

Maybe something like this but more useful. An option that can make MyPig detect if you have the listing for the days showed on it. In the Listing management of MyPig, you have many days (here 12). If i have selected 3 days and download the programs for it, when theses 3 day will be passed, MyPig will tell you a message on MC start like there is no listing for the day. So, instead of saying this, why it could not download automaticly the programs for the day (if you have checked the option)...

Thanks
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 14, 2004, 06:56:15 pm: So, any news about theses suggestions? ;D

Hey delevoppers, why not includes this great plugin on MC, maybe why not on the TV tuner at the same place of other guide??

...
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: JHC on January 14, 2004, 09:39:50 pm: Thanks guys,

These were all great suggestions and really all sort of basic things to make the plugin more usable.

I'll try to get to them all -- will take a little time as my day job is keeping me fairly busy at the moment, but I appreciate your taking the time to write!

Jon
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: KingDodo on January 14, 2004, 10:20:21 pm: No problem,

All work great, and i can wait for the rest.
I have given your plugin to a friend and he very liked it. It work fine right now, and some added features will welcome when they will be there. I'll be patient man :)
Title: Re:XMLTV for a great TV guide
Post by: rocketsauce on January 15, 2004, 03:49:21 am: I installed and configured xmltv and then installed My Pig in Win98se and get the following error when I try to run it:

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Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Program: C:\Program Files\Softdesign\Mypig\Mypigframe.exe

This Application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Rob