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Title: Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Matt on March 15, 2004, 05:00:28 pm
This is in late beta.  It may still have problems.

Please reserve this thread for bugs.  If you're not sure whether it's a bug, or you need to ask a question, please start a new thread.

Please check the license and price thread before you download:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=17336

The latest beta of 10 is here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter10092.exe

10.0.92 (3/15/04)

1. Fixed: The image for a track wouldn't update properly when a file with no image was played.
2. Fixed: Clicking a column header to sort wouldn't update the sort numbers drawn on other columns right away.
3. Fixed: Right-click menus were disabled in some webpage type views.
4. Fixed: Rename (F2 / right-click) in the tree wouldn't work properly when first selecting a tree item.
5. Fixed: Download Manager could quit before all pending downloads were finished.
6. Fixed: If user ejects CD during a rip process, it's handled more gracefully now.
7. Fixed: Mini View sliders wouldn't respond consistently to the mouse wheel.
8. Fixed: Returning from Mini View could crash in some cases.
9. Fixed: Start at "Last Location" didn't work properly when exiting when outside of "All" Media Mode.
10. NEW: Added option to remember last Media Mode. (Options > Startup)
11. Fixed: Action Window better handles when the playlist being built is deleted.
12. Changed: Action Window better handles when a handheld is disconnected.
13. Fixed: Display of negative file sizes would always use GB.

10.0.91 (3/12/04)
1. Changed: CD views show a "no disc" message when no disc is in the drive.
2. Changed: Library shows "no files" message when there are no files in the library.
3. Changed: Installer and Uninstaller are now more responsive while executing commands.
4. Fixed: MC was failing to retrieve information from read only WMA files.
5. Fixed: Sometimes on a skin change, the title bar menu area wouldn't paint with the new skin background.
6. Fixed: Image wouldn't switch when going to the next track if both files had internal cover art.
7. Fixed: Progress reporting for Portables with more than 10 file conversions.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: markp99 on March 15, 2004, 05:02:41 pm
10. NEW: Added option to remember last Media Mode. (Options > Startup)

Woohoo!!  Thanks for this one!  :)
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: dynamic on March 15, 2004, 05:15:03 pm
i second that....and third....and forth....
10. NEW: Added option to remember last Media Mode. (Options > Startup)

Woohoo!!  Thanks for this one!  :)
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Quisp on March 15, 2004, 05:19:00 pm
I'll take the fifth!
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Doof on March 15, 2004, 05:40:45 pm
13. Fixed: Display of negative file sizes would always use GB.

Hey thanks. Now when I have mp3s on my PC that actually give me back more hard drive space, I'll know exactly how much I'm getting! Before, I could never really tell.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Matt on March 15, 2004, 06:20:51 pm
13. Fixed: Display of negative file sizes would always use GB.

Hey thanks. Now when I have mp3s on my PC that actually give me back more hard drive space, I'll know exactly how much I'm getting! Before, I could never really tell.

It's for a new data compressor we're working on that actually takes negative space.  This is all we've got so far.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Valissystem on March 15, 2004, 06:24:10 pm
7. Fixed: Mini View sliders wouldn't respond consistently to the mouse wheel.
...
10. NEW: Added option to remember last Media Mode. (Options > Startup)

Thanks a lot!!
;D
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: pbreet on March 15, 2004, 07:40:01 pm
This "bug" (unless it's a feature....) has been around forever.

I have Media Scheduler disabled.

I select Options, and do nothing other than click Okay.

Media Scheduler starts.  I disable it.

Repeat.

Media Scheduler starts again.

How can I totally disable it?
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: mkutsen on March 15, 2004, 07:58:01 pm
I'll take the fifth!

Another thanks!
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: mkutsen on March 15, 2004, 07:59:28 pm
MC keeps trying to open the download manager to play ASX files

I don't have download manager associated with any files.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JimH on March 15, 2004, 08:01:03 pm
This "bug" (unless it's a feature....) has been around forever.

I have Media Scheduler disabled.

I select Options, and do nothing other than click Okay.

Media Scheduler starts.  I disable it.

Repeat.

Media Scheduler starts again.

How can I totally disable it?
Take a careful look at the file associations you have set in MC.  I think the option you need to uncheck is "always take control...".
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JimH on March 15, 2004, 08:06:40 pm
MC keeps trying to open the download manager to play ASX files
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=19871;start=msg138271#msg138271
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: pbreet on March 15, 2004, 08:12:15 pm
This "bug" (unless it's a feature....) has been around forever.
How can I totally disable it?
Take a careful look at the file associations you have set in MC.  I think the option you need to uncheck is "always take control...".

Thanks, works perfectly.  It was a feature (that I didn't know how to work...).
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Havana on March 15, 2004, 08:17:14 pm
Quote
3. Fixed: Right-click menus were disabled in some webpage type views.

Thank you, thank you, thank you  ;D (...10.1 would be great with some added browser controls from within Media Center).  
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Omni on March 15, 2004, 11:13:23 pm
I don't think this is a bug, per se, but for the first time in eons, the MC installer is asking me to restart Windows.  Did something change?

I am sure that this is a *me* thing and not a *you* thing, but it is quite odd because I literally have not run MC in over a week, and my machine has gone through many reboots since that time.  :-\
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: lalittle on March 16, 2004, 06:54:08 am
You guys added support for Audible files over Media Server!  Thank you for doing this.  Did you mention this in the lists of changes recently?  If so, I must have missed it.

The only "odd" thing about playing Audible files now is that the Playing Now screen says "visualizations for this file type are not supported" even when you aren't displaying any visualizations (this is even if you aren't using Media Server.)  Even when trying to display track info with one of the simplest display schemes, it still says "visualiztions not available."

Thanks again for supporting Audible playback over Media Server.

Larry
Title: where does one find the complete feature list
Post by: nivw on March 16, 2004, 08:28:06 am
where does one find the complete feature list for MC 10?

niv
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: LonWar on March 16, 2004, 08:42:13 am
Click on the link in my sig...
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Matt on March 16, 2004, 08:42:20 am
I don't think this is a bug, per se, but for the first time in eons, the MC installer is asking me to restart Windows.  Did something change?

I am sure that this is a *me* thing and not a *you* thing, but it is quite odd because I literally have not run MC in over a week, and my machine has gone through many reboots since that time.  :-\

Trust it -- it knows when it needs to restart.

It's normally the Explorer shell extensions.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 11:06:30 am
I just burned a new mp3 CD and popped it in my player and discovered that even though I had the songs shuffled in the playlist I burned, the songs burned in Artist order on the disc.  I can live with it since I can set the player to random and still get them shuffled, but I would rather it just burn them in the order I have them selected.  That way I can use the forward/back on the stereo (they just select a random track in random mode, and can repeat tracks also).
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: fex on March 16, 2004, 02:24:17 pm
JustinChase,

If you have 'Burn CD...' in action window:
- click on 'Options' --> 'CD/DVD File Naming' --> 'Custom'
- define the file naming and
- check 'Prefix the list order to the CD filename'.

The checkbox does the trick.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: xen-uno on March 16, 2004, 02:26:07 pm
Justin > burned a new mp3 CD ... though I had the songs shuffled in the playlist I burned, the songs burned in Artist order on the disc

Not necessarily, see...

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=17476;start=msg120487#msg120487

10-27

edit: Your disk should contain an m3u with the original order
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: ZRocker on March 16, 2004, 02:40:24 pm
Handheld Progress bar does NOT move (is blank) when uploading now...this worked yesterday using 10.0.91 (uploaded to CF-card reader/writer connected via USB 2.0).
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 03:22:03 pm
I did not notice the option for what order to burn them in.  I will re-burn a disc today with the "Original" option, and see if that works.

Thanks for the help :D

This forum kicks arse.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 03:36:55 pm
I almost forgot (actually, I did forget, but re-burning the disc has reminded me) I have a smartlist that picks favorites up to 700mb of data, which gives me about 110-115 files to burn on a data disc..  In this case it's 112 tracks worth 696 mb of data for 10:26:54 hours of music.  Obviously below the 700mb limit.  However, MC says I have more data selected than will fit on the disc.  I think it said 20mb (or so) over limit.  It burns fine, finishes fine, and plays fine, but the warning did make me want to change the smartlist to avoid making a coaster.  As I assume it does to others also.

Thanks
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: ZRocker on March 16, 2004, 03:50:52 pm
JustinChase,

That's a known MC feature...I reported it as a bug a zillion times, but it remains...so, just consider it a silly MC feature and ignore it (that's what I've learned to do).
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 03:51:27 pm
The disc burned with the option for the CD/DVD File Naming set to "Same as Original" still burned the files in artist order.

I can't use the custom field, because that needs to put the files in some order, and I want no order.  Does it really matter?  Probably not.  But it seems like it should work.

Oh well.  What can you do :P
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: fex on March 16, 2004, 04:33:59 pm
Oh well.  What can you do :P

I suppose your your player plays the tracks in alphabetical order? See 7 posts above.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 05:57:46 pm
Thanks Fex, but the Custom option still requires me to put them in some kind of order, and I was trying to make them completely random.  So it still doesn't work.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: LonWar on March 16, 2004, 06:12:57 pm
I am not sure if this is some sort of option I hit or not....

When MC is diplayed you can not change applications. You have to minimize mc first...

Even Alt Tab doesn't switch apps...

Any idea's?
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 16, 2004, 07:26:59 pm
gamer, the same thing happened to me the other night.  I think I actually restart the machine to get it working again.  I can't remember what started it, and it hasn't happened since, wierd.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: TimB on March 16, 2004, 07:31:00 pm
10. NEW: Added option to remember last Media Mode. (Options > Startup)
Belated thanks! :)

-=Tim=-
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: SeanC on March 16, 2004, 07:53:23 pm
I created a playlist last night in .92, and attemped to burn 4 audio cds from it.  The first failed with a 'key sense' error, the next with 'not enough space on CD in calibration area' (or something similar), and the next two worked fine.  

Or so I thought until I went to play them - they each had the correct number of tracks, and each track was the correct length - but each track was silent.

I have burned dozens of CDs in 10.x.  The only other burning software I have installed is Nero 6, and it works fine.

BTW - I reported that the DVD burning function (on a different drive, but same computer) also failed.

Now, I'm already braced for the possibility of an 'it's your hardware', but since the same batch of CDs works fine in the same computer and the same drive, I'm wondering if it could be something in MC?
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Ralph B. Jones on March 17, 2004, 01:14:39 am
Hello, thiis is Ralph. I'm new to the forum and the program. I just purchased Media Center 10.0 and am wondering why the burner keeps giving me "Invalid Field in cdb" especially if  I'm trying to burn an mp3/data disc over 40-50 files/tracks in length? It happens occasionally with a wav/audio cd but more with the mp3's. Is this a bug or what? I'd love to know.... ? ?
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: lalittle on March 17, 2004, 04:46:09 am
The lack of the "Retrieving file list" message when highlighting an iPod is discomforting.  It used to be that when highlighting an iPod, you'd immediately saw a window that showed the files on the iPod being counted.  This was a nice indication that MC was actually "doing something" during this time.  Now that this window has been eliminated, MC just seems to hang for a few moments.  It's not all that long, but the more files on the iPod, the longer this "pause."  I don't understand why the "count up" was eliminated when it actually served a purpose without any drawbacks that I can see.

Any chance that this window will be re-instated?

Larry
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: Mike Noe on March 17, 2004, 07:46:21 am
When running DM from MC or from explorer, I get the msg that the Windows Shell Interface is not available, then I get a C++ runtime error.

I have just recently restored from an XP SP2 beta build back to SP1.

Media Center Registered 10.0.92 -- H:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 448 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 49 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1400 / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1233 (xpsp2.030604-1804) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0002) , ASPI for Win32         DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0002)

Ripping /   Drive E:   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: SONY     DVD RW DRU-510A    Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: No /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: jgourd on March 17, 2004, 08:04:09 am
Problem with iPod:

I just transfered several audiobooks to the iPod. Each one reported errors uploading some of the files. Checking the iPod, the files were there. Listening to them however revealed that the file listed in the database belonged to a different book completely.


I have re-verified this. Every single file that reports and error in uploading shows up in the database attached to the wrong file. For instance, uploading 250 files from "Up Country" reports that file 119 had an error. Listening to file 119 reveals that it is in fact track one from "Odd Thomas".
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JohnT on March 17, 2004, 08:08:45 am
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Hello, thiis is Ralph. I'm new to the forum and the program. I just purchased Media Center 10.0 and am wondering why the burner keeps giving me "Invalid Field in cdb" especially if  I'm trying to burn an mp3/data disc over 40-50 files/tracks in length? It happens occasionally with a wav/audio cd but more with the mp3's. Is this a bug or what? I'd love to know.... ? ?
Hello Ralph, welcome to the forum. I'm going to open a separate thread for this problem titled "Error message when burning a CD". Please go to that thread and post your system information from MC's help menu.

Thanks!
John T.
JRiver, Inc.
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JohnT on March 17, 2004, 08:39:31 am
I created a playlist last night in .92, and attemped to burn 4 audio cds from it.  The first failed with a 'key sense' error, the next with 'not enough space on CD in calibration area' (or something similar), and the next two worked fine.  

Or so I thought until I went to play them - they each had the correct number of tracks, and each track was the correct length - but each track was silent.

I have burned dozens of CDs in 10.x.  The only other burning software I have installed is Nero 6, and it works fine.

BTW - I reported that the DVD burning function (on a different drive, but same computer) also failed.

Now, I'm already braced for the possibility of an 'it's your hardware', but since the same batch of CDs works fine in the same computer and the same drive, I'm wondering if it could be something in MC?
I'm creating a separate thread for this problem entitled "SeanC CD/DVD burning problem". Please open that thread and post your system info from MC's help menu.

Thanks!
John T.
JRiver, Inc.
Title: MC wont exit proparly
Post by: nivw on March 17, 2004, 09:30:02 am
I had this also using ver. 9
I thoght 10 won't have this bug.
after exsiting MC stays in the task manager.
when I load it again I get worning that it can't open ports and such.
then I have to exit, go to task manager and kill the previos by hand.

what other info do you need?

edit: It comes done to this scenerio:
I load MC with 20 OGG songs in the playing now q.
I click play. it starts playing. I click stop. it stops. I click play again. I see Buffering and MC freezes.

Niv
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: SteveG on March 17, 2004, 09:52:03 am
Larry,

I cannot replicate this. The wait dialogue should show unless the process takes less than a milisecond.

ZRocker,

This is fixed.

JGourd,

Sounds like a library problem. Can you play the erroring files correctly in MC?

Steve
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JohnT on March 17, 2004, 11:03:34 am
Thanks Fex, but the Custom option still requires me to put them in some kind of order, and I was trying to make them completely random.  So it still doesn't work.
The next build has a Shuffle option on the context menu (right-click) when you're viewing the file list to be burned. However, to keep these in the order you see them in the list, you must choose custom file naming and check the "prefix list order" option. Also, all the tracks should be in the root directory of the CD (or at least in the same folder), otherwise the player will play the folders in alpha order. Let me know if this isn't going to work for you (and why?).
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: JustinChase on March 17, 2004, 02:08:53 pm
Thanks John!

Just to clarify, in the "Custom..." dialog, it gives me some preset rules, along with the option to set up my own naming scheme, but if I check the "Prefix the list order to the CD filename" box, it will disregard the naming options, and just use the original list order?

If that's correct, then I'm good.  Otherwise, the option to shuffle the list would work great too, as long as it burns the files in that order.

Thanks again for the immediate attention you guys often give to these types of things.

If only you guys could implement EVERY idea/suggestion so quickly ;)
Title: Re:Media Center 10.0.92 beta available
Post by: lalittle on March 17, 2004, 03:13:06 pm
Larry,

I cannot replicate this. The wait dialogue should show unless the process takes less than a milisecond.

Steve

So you're saying that when you highlight the iPod, it is still supposed to show the "count up" of files?  This stopped on my system as of several builds ago.  Now it just pauses for several seconds during this period, then the file list displays.  Are you sure this hasn't changed.

Thanks,

Larry