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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: Matt on August 19, 2004, 07:32:08 pm

Title: Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2004, 07:32:08 pm
We're still working on Media Center 11.  We appreciate your feedback on it, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it.  When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your settings.  Some plugins still do not work.


If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/download.html


Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110064.exe

11.0.64 (8/19/04)

1. NEW: View schemes can be configured to show or not show in Theater View.
2. Changed: Simplified the display names of the year, month, and day fields.
3. Changed: 'All' listing in panes, tree, and Theater View includes field name.
4. Changed: Tweaked some wordings in Theater View.
5. Changed: Starting playback with 'Enter' in Theater View wouldn't always show the "Starting playback..." message.
6. NEW: Introduced new keyboard / remote navigation model for Theater View that doesn't mix left / right with page switching.
7. Fixed: Switching away from a tile view could cause a crash.
8. Fixed: Access Control settings were not being saved between sessions.

11.0.63 (8/18/04)

1. Fixed: Smartlist selection dialog would show an extra checked empty value when <empty> was selected.
2. Fixed: Drag-n-drop of subfolders with periods in them would not always work properly.
3. Changed: Column auto-sizing enlarges columns when their ideal widths don't fill the view.
4. Changed: Changed Import's 'Analyzing Library' status reporting to be less confusing.
5. Changed: Portable devices will match files with MC based on 'Album Artist(Auto)' field rather than 'Artist'. Album Artist(Auto) will populate the 'Artist' filed on devices after a transfer or sync.
6. Fixed: File associations would not be set on a clean install.
7. Fixed: Switching from windowed to fullscreen view could leave the windowed icon in the tray.
8. Changed: Cancel button would be disabled during the import stage of the import & update system.
9. Fixed: After removing a file, MC would allow that file to be added to the database multiple times until a restart.
10. Fixed: When using the WMP video playback engine, fast forward and rewind would not function properly.
11. NEW: Several search bar / smartlist enhancements. (improved formatting, improved truncate logic, update menu layout, etc.)
12. NEW: Updated 'Devices' options page to use the new options system.
13. NEW: Updated 'Startup' options page to use the new options system.
14. Changed: Showing a split view requires Shift+Ctrl when clicking a tree item instead of just Ctrl. (still a temporary system)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: park on August 19, 2004, 07:53:48 pm
I guess you know that when control,shift clicking to show playing now and the panes, you cant get back to having them seperate without restarting the program right?

I have a suggestion regarding the pop-up tracklist that appears when you hover over an album thumbnail. Make the the tracks in the list clickable, like html links.

Also, how do you change/configure the tile view?

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on August 19, 2004, 07:58:48 pm
Don't you guy's ever go home?


Requests:

**Can you please add    .csv to the supported list. It opens with MS Excell.
**Be able to have the EQ always visible in MegaMe
**Be able to change the tool tip fonts and background color... Would love to be able to use the ThunderStorm windowblinds skin again.
**Any way for you guys to be able to let us specify different Import locations for each library
**Can we be able to view www.last.fm from within MC. This is for the AudioScrobbler Plugin.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2004, 08:00:14 pm
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I guess you know that when control,shift clicking to show playing now and the panes, you cant get back to having them seperate without restarting the program right?

We're still thinking about how to lace this in.  For now, start and stop a burn in the AW to close the split pane.

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I have a suggestion regarding the pop-up tracklist that appears when you hover over an album thumbnail. Make the the tracks in the list clickable, like html links.

It's tricky because tooltips close when you move the mouse.

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Also, how do you change/configure the tile view?

There's a template in the MC\Data\Tile Templates folder.  In the future, you'll probably be able to have multiple templates.

Please share if you make anything good.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: paulr on August 19, 2004, 08:12:00 pm
File associations are still being stolen.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: JimH on August 19, 2004, 08:12:30 pm
File associations are still being stolen.
Did you try setting one?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Dragyn on August 19, 2004, 08:19:26 pm
>3. Changed: 'All' listing in panes, tree, and Theater View includes field name.

This is great but doesn't work with plural names.

Events -> Eventss
Places -> Placess

Maybe just the fields should be singular. Event, Place, etc.

Edit:

Drive D:\ -> Ds:\
D:\Audio\ -> D:\Audios\

Edit 2:

This also affects file lists too because there is no "D:\Audios\" directory.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: paulr on August 19, 2004, 08:40:38 pm
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Did you try setting one?

I turned them all off.  You are saying I have to set one to MC?  Not sure I agree that it should be necessary, but I'll try it.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: paulr on August 19, 2004, 08:47:19 pm
I set jmx to default in MC (that shouldn't cause me any issues) and it no longer stole associations.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Dragyn on August 19, 2004, 10:05:32 pm
>1. NEW: View schemes can be configured to show or not show in Theater View.

Unchecking a main view scheme (ie: Images), the pane setups still show. I know about the 'config theater' option but that's not what I'm talking about.

Images (Year, Month, Day)
-Rating (Whatever)

Images
Rating 2000 2001 2002 etc

words in italics, according to setup, shouldn't be there.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Dragyn on August 19, 2004, 10:19:34 pm
Right-clicking a non-selected view scheme shows then hides menu.


Observations

'3D Visualizations Images' playlist should really come with MC, like the other ones. First time I type it, it had spelling mistakes and of course, it didn't work. But it now works and it's pretty cool I think.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: TXgary on August 20, 2004, 07:36:38 am
OK
How do you get split panes (or multi panes) for playing now and library?
This is driving me crazy.  I can find no documentation and I understand it has something to do with shift control.  But I have tried everything.  
I think one of the best new features is the ability to see  multi views.... but I am not able as I do not know the secret handshake.
I reviewed the MC11 imporvements.  Lots of good stuff, but I don't have a clue as how to use it...... The document needs some drill down.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on August 20, 2004, 08:18:41 am
The documentation won't be changed till 11 goes gold...

This is from the the 11.0.63 thread and it is also mentioned on this thread under 11.0.63 changes


14. Changed: Showing a split view requires Shift+Ctrl when clicking a tree item instead of just Ctrl. (still a temporary system)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: TXgary on August 20, 2004, 12:15:38 pm
MC11 does not seem to work as yet with Nomad Zen.  Is it to early yet to be using the handhelds on MC11?
I am running MC11.63
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: interbeat on August 20, 2004, 01:01:56 pm
Clicking "Drives & Devices" in the tree causes either MC to crash or a complete system reset. Any ideas?

Ed.

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Media Center Registered 11.0.63 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2790 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 457 MB, Free - 215 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1552 / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1556 (xpsp2_gdr.040517-1325) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive F:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive G:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: QSI      CDRW/DVD SBW242U   Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Monkeyboy on August 20, 2004, 01:11:10 pm
Clicking rip cd then clicking on playing now causes MC to crash.
Rich

Code: [Select]
Media Center Registered 11.0.63 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 3275 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 596 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive F:   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive G:   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive H:   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive I:   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive J:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: YAMAHA   CRW-F1E            Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:44  MaxSpeed:44  BurnProof:Yes
  Drive H: _NEC     DVD_RW ND-2510A    Addr: 0:0:0  Speed:10  MaxSpeed:10  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: JimH on August 20, 2004, 01:37:47 pm
Clicking rip cd then clicking on playing now causes MC to crash.
Rich
Please try build 64.  A similar bug was fixed.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Robert Taylor on August 20, 2004, 04:52:19 pm
I deleted my library and re-imported from scratch with this build, and noticed that the import process was really slow for about the first 2000-3000 files, after which it seemed to accelerate.

During the time that the import was slow, CPU usage by MC was around 90%, when the import sped up, CPU usage had dropped to around 40-50%.

Weird huh?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Monkeyboy on August 20, 2004, 05:32:43 pm
Clicking rip cd then clicking on playing now causes MC to crash.
Rich
Please try build 64.  A similar bug was fixed.
sorry Jim, I thought i was running .64, appologies.
installed 64 and its fixed, cheers
Rich
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on August 20, 2004, 08:25:16 pm
This version imports INSANELY slow...

so far it's been about 30-45 min and it has imported about 1600 tracks/


Update... Took 2:18 to import 5000 files....

Media Center Registered 11.0.63 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1792 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1571 MB, Free - 1037 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping /   Drive E: PLEXTOR CD-R   PREMIUM    Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive F:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PREMIUM     Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:52  MaxSpeed:52  BurnProof:Yes
  Drive F: PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-708A     Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None



Ooops just realized I am using .63 ... will update and retry...


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :P :P :P ? ?  8)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Valissystem on August 21, 2004, 05:27:34 am
Minor little issue. The Name field is supposed to be a string yes?

Currently if I have a title that appears to be a number it seems to auto format it as such. Therefore the name ".3" is always rendered as "0.3". (a real example as  ".3" is a song in the Porcupine Tree "In Absentia" album.)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: KingSparta on August 21, 2004, 07:04:02 am
This version imports INSANELY slow...

so far it's been about 30-45 min and it has imported about 1600 tracks/

I imported 35,000 in 2hr and 35 mins
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: DougHamm on August 21, 2004, 07:44:11 am
In .63 and .64 I've noticed on both computers that it takes several seconds (and random mouse clicks it seems) for Media Center to show up in the application list in Windows' taskbar.  If you open MC11 and immediately minimize it, the only way to find it again is through task manager, where it shows up as a running application.  Once it's in the taskbar I don't believe it goes away until you exit and re-run.

-Doug

Media Center Registered 11.0.64 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2537 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 219 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0002) , ASPI for Win32         DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0002)

Ripping /   Drive G:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive H:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive M: Generic STEALTH DVD       Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive H: GENERIC  DVD RW 4XMax       Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on August 21, 2004, 09:46:08 am
This version imports INSANELY slow...

so far it's been about 30-45 min and it has imported about 1600 tracks/


Update... Took 2:18 to import 5000 files....

Media Center Registered 11.0.63 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1792 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1571 MB, Free - 1037 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping /   Drive E: PLEXTOR CD-R   PREMIUM    Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive F:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive E: PLEXTOR  CD-R   PREMIUM     Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:52  MaxSpeed:52  BurnProof:Yes
  Drive F: PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-708A     Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:40  MaxSpeed:40  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None



Ooops just realized I am using .63 ... will update and retry...


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :P :P :P ? ?  8)

Tried the current version and it took 1:20

That's better..
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on August 21, 2004, 02:42:18 pm
BUG...

If there are extra . in the name or path, it will not convert.
Ex.. Album    Wasted Years...Stranger in A Strange Land      will not convert until I change it to Wasted Years   Stranger in A Strange Land

I'm trying to convert a ton of tracks to take to work and I have to rename, convert then change the name back...   ::)
Title: Sort with numbers in artist name
Post by: pepe lopex on August 21, 2004, 10:13:31 pm
Sort with numbers in artist name

 Hello, I have observed this error in MC 11.  I have a artist/group that is called "091", that is to say, all the name like numbers.

But when when imnport the data base and new archives of this group, MC index the name clearing leading zero, leaving the name of the group like "91".  

This did not happen with MC 10.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: lee269 on August 22, 2004, 12:43:12 pm
1. Photoshop psd file thumbnails are really tiny in thumbnail view (even smaller than in the tooltips), no matter how large I set the thumbnails. FWIW, this is in contrast with the size of the thumnails as shown in Windows Explorer.

2. Still not sure if the view scheme filter column widths (duno what they are called) are supposed to be auto sized in v11. I thought they were but couldnt find a reference on the board. So FWIW they arent on my install - they are equally sized.

3. When using the search box at the top right, it filters OK as I type, but sometimes if I hold down backspace to delete my typing quickly, the filter gets stuck and still shows the filtered items rather than the whole library, even though the search box is clear of any entry. Its like the filtering cant keep up with the speed of the deletion.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: drosoph on August 22, 2004, 02:08:02 pm
My request wishlist:
BUGS:  
IMPORT causes MP3s without Date (Year) values to be populated with todays date
When using Media Server on my LAN, playback of songs occurs at a faster-than-normal rate (ie, 38 seconds of song in 30 seconds) ... I noticed the "chipmunk effect' just slightly during a song and started watching the times .. I checked multiple songs.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on August 22, 2004, 07:28:02 pm
MC seems to have reverted to importing from 'Entire Computer'  rather than to use the folders I had selected (it actually lost my folder list).

On another front, thre Action Window scrolls in a way that makes it very difficult to read . . . it scrolls rather jerky (especially using a mouse wheel to scroll) and looks like it has gone much further than it has as a result. This causes difficulty seeking particular tag fields in the A/W.

Otherwise, running well.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: benrad on August 22, 2004, 09:36:56 pm
Whenever I run "Synchronize" on my handheld (iPod), I get the "Media Center was unable to initialize the handheld..."
Just to be sure, I went back in and intialized my iPod using the 11 - 64 build, and it still gives me the same error. All other transfer functionality works. I know this will get moved to HandHeld support, but I thought I'd throw it in here for ideas.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.64 Alpha Available
Post by: Jaguu on August 23, 2004, 12:19:11 pm
Created a new user without administrative rights, logged in and imported files into a specific library for this user. Works ok, but MC11 reports every 30 seconds or so the following error and then crashes:

"Media Center has encountered critical error #21. Some essential component is missing or corrupted. Please uninstall and reinstall the latest version of Media CEnter. If this error persists report it to JRiver."

This does not happen on my regular "Jaguu" account with administrative rights!

Media Center Registered 11.0.64 -- C:\Programme\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1727 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 240 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive Y:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive Z:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None