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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: GingerTommy on September 05, 2004, 05:30:04 pm

Title: Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: GingerTommy on September 05, 2004, 05:30:04 pm: Are there any plans for FLAC support in MC11?
It seems odd that we can play a massive number of esoteric and propriety formats but not one that is open-source and becoming very popular.

I would love to see an official plug-in and would upgrade as soon as one was offered.

Thanks, Thomas.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: elpaolo on September 05, 2004, 05:35:19 pm: I 2nd that motion... FLAC is really big on a number of legal trading networks for bands that fully support bootlegging. Not to mention livephish.com offers great flac files...
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: urlwolf on September 06, 2004, 02:53:23 pm: And the rio Karma supports it.
I second that, although I should know better after asking the same thing for as long as I have...
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: GHammer on September 07, 2004, 06:33:50 am: Personally, I have tried FLAC and find it to be a pain. I like and use APE format for lossless and MP via LAME for lossy.

Hmmm, how about becoming an evangelist for APE?
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: iCamp on September 07, 2004, 09:40:45 am: Because FLAC is pretty much the standard among lossless codecs. Show me a piece of hardware that supports APE. Monkey's Audio is a great format with a cool name and great tagging support but the simple fact is FLAC is the dominant format.
There is no good reason for MC not to officially support FLAC.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: Noman on September 07, 2004, 01:15:52 pm: It would make life easier for me too if flac was supported.....
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: JimH on September 07, 2004, 01:28:15 pm: We'll add FLAC to the supported file types for MC11.

Oblong,
If you're reading, we'd like to package your decoder plug-in and make it available for automatic download when MC finds a flac file. OK?

Thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: urlwolf on September 07, 2004, 01:33:19 pm: Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 01:28:15 pm
We'll add FLAC to the supported file types for MC11.

Nice, thanks! That means that MC11 will understand FLAC tags and everything?
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: JimH on September 07, 2004, 01:34:03 pm: Quote from: urlwolf on September 07, 2004, 01:33:19 pm
Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 01:28:15 pm
We'll add FLAC to the supported file types for MC11.

Nice, thanks! That means that MC11 will understand FLAC tags and everything?
I don't think so.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: lpr on September 07, 2004, 08:05:56 pm: If I read this right, flac support will only be available via a plug-in. Will it ever be coded in MC?

I'm just curious...

Thanks.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: JimH on September 07, 2004, 08:09:29 pm: Flac support will always be a plug-in and won't be part of the standard install package.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: GingerTommy on September 08, 2004, 08:23:19 am: Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 01:28:15 pm
we'd like to package your decoder plug-in and make it available for automatic download when MC finds a flac file.

I have tried Oblong's plug-in with MC11 and it did not work - has something changed that makes the plug-in function now?
If so, I'm good to go but I would appreciate a definitive answer before I go through another upgrade-downgrade cycle.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: Diverdown1964 on September 08, 2004, 09:37:00 am: It's working on the latest 11 build (76). At least it is for me.
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: Diverdown1964 on September 08, 2004, 09:37:39 am: Sorry - I meant build .77
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: xen-uno on September 08, 2004, 05:40:42 pm: Oblong's plugin (in_flac.dll) is the playback/tagging half of the equation. To rip to and transcode flac requires (short of monkeying with an external encoder option) enc_flac.dll, which has yet to be written.

10^-27
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: iCamp on September 08, 2004, 09:52:46 pm: How difficult is that?
I'm just curious -I doubt I have the skills to do it but maybe someone else here can?
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: MB on September 08, 2004, 11:50:01 pm: Help me understand - why does MC not want to officially support Flac?
Title: Re:Official FLAC support in MC11
Post by: GingerTommy on September 09, 2004, 02:58:40 am: Quote from: MB on September 08, 2004, 11:50:01 pm
Help me understand - why does MC not want to officially support Flac?
I would like to understand this too.

Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 08:09:29 pm
Flac support will always be a plug-in and won't be part of the standard install package.
This statement seems so definite and final. What if FLAC becomes so widespread that it cannot be ignored?