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Title: Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on September 30, 2004, 10:46:01 am
We're still working on Media Center 11.  We appreciate your feedback on it, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it.  When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your view schemes.  Some plugins still do not work.

We recommend that you use MC10 below, but if you want to use MC 11 while we're building it, PRICES are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311)

If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/download.html

Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110093.exe  [see price link above]

Recent Changes

11.0.93 (9/30/04)

1. Fixed: Uninstaller could show an error in some cases during a complete uninstall.
2. Fixed: Using the Format Converter DSP with no resampling could cause a crash at the end of a track.
3. Fixed: ASIO playback could crash with some cards when playing mono files.
4. Fixed: Sample rate conversion would not work properly with channel conversion on as well.
5. Fixed: Double click playback for files on USB portables works again.
6. NEW: CD ripper option to rip multiple tracks to a single file with associated cue file works now.
7. Fixed: WMA files with large data or internal art could cause crashes in some cases. (introduced 11.0.92)
8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)
9. NEW: Updated DirectX Host plugin to not use resources or startup time unless it's enabled. (download here: http://accessories.musicex.com/mediacenter/accessories.php )

11.0.92 (9/28/04)

1. Fixed: MP3 tagging could be slower than expected in some cases.
2. Fixed: Mouse wheel scrolling in the Library Browser could cause a crash.
3. Fixed: Starting a new track with a different track paused would cause a little bit of the old track to be played.
4. Changed: Double-clicking a Library Browser grouping no longer considers the click on a single item, so all the groupings won't be played. (depends on configured double-click mode)
5. Fixed: OGG encoding (ripping, converting, etc.) was not working in some cases.
6. Changed: WMA tagging would not store Album Artist in the (new) standard way.

MC 11 Improvements

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: JustinChase on September 30, 2004, 01:24:02 pm
8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

I like it!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 01:38:57 pm
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NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Also I like, perhaps but he would be better to be able to activate or to deactivate this characteristic from the options of the program (in "Options > Tree & view > List" for example).  Thus he would be better for machines with limited resources and by aesthetic questions.
Title: Menu "List style" disappeared!
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 01:49:43 pm
 I finish fixing using version 11.1.092 MC and have updated to 11.1.093 in case it had been a confusion and it had been corrected.  

But I am afraid that nobody has realized:  The menu "List Style" has disappeared that forms the format of visualization of the listings ("View List Formats").  

Before, List Style option could be found in the menu bar under "View" or doing right-click in the list and select "View > List Style".  Now this option is had lost (or they have changed it place to another and I have not found out).   :-[
Title: Re:Menu "List style" disappeared!
Post by: Matt on September 30, 2004, 01:54:14 pm
I finish fixing using version 11.1.092 MC and have updated to 11.1.093 in case it had been a confusion and it had been corrected.  

But I am afraid that nobody has realized:  The menu "List Style" has disappeared that forms the format of visualization of the listings ("View List Formats").  

Before, List Style option could be found in the menu bar under "View" or doing right-click in the list and select "View > List Style".  Now this option is had lost (or they have changed it place to another and I have not found out).   :-[

View > Customize Current View or Ctrl+U
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: RemyJ on September 30, 2004, 01:59:36 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.
Title: Change of behavior to import files.
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 02:03:36 pm
I have appreciated from versions back that the form has changed in which new files are added (import) in MC library.

Before if the Windows shell integration, files were dragged & dropped, or if menu were used;  when some file of anyone of these forms was concerned, MC showed an informative window of the import status ("Import Info") and playlist was placed in the "Recently Imported".  

Now MC do not do all this, or I am very clumsy :-\ and not with himself that do what I want, or this behavior has been modified by some option of the program that I do not have activated.  

In any case, I would like that everything worked like before.  ;)  

Thanks.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: RemyJ on September 30, 2004, 02:15:03 pm
Still having problems with the library browser not flowing entries correctly.

If I select a genre with 11 artists, then select the artists tab, I get a single column list that shows 10 with the bottom one cut off.   If I mouse hover over the list, it flickers rapidly between a single column list and a 2 column list.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on September 30, 2004, 02:22:37 pm
Still having problems with the library browser not flowing entries correctly.

If I select a genre with 11 artists, then select the artists tab, I get a single column list that shows 10 with the bottom one cut off.   If I mouse hover over the list, it flickers rapidly between a single column list and a 2 column list.

We're not sure if we'll be able to make this work perfectly outside of XP.  There are some bugs in older Windows common controls that we haven't figured out how to work around.

I wonder if there's any way to upgrade the common controls safely without upgrading your OS...
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Jaguu on September 30, 2004, 02:49:59 pm
I support pepe lopex request.

The import summary at import time was very useful, especially when importin *.mpl playlists. I definitely miss this feature.

I don't understand why J River so often drops existing features that were quite useful. I don't see any reason why this feature needed to be dropped.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: TAFKAFEX on September 30, 2004, 03:12:15 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

Disagree. As small as it as. It helps me to differentiate between the albums in a 'visual' way.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: matshif on September 30, 2004, 03:17:05 pm
8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Like it!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 03:54:54 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Don't see playing overlay icon!!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 03:58:30 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

Disagree. As small as it as. It helps me to differentiate between the albums in a 'visual' way.

In addition, it allows to detect of a look the files that they do not have to cover image.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: zeltak on September 30, 2004, 04:15:07 pm
i think its a great feature but an option to choose betweeen the 2 options would be even better  :)

zeltak
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: IanG on September 30, 2004, 04:45:47 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

I completely agree - it serves no useful purpose and just slows things down.  Might be nice as an option though.

Ian G.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Marra on September 30, 2004, 04:50:03 pm
I like new detail images.

Request : in view schemes, if grouping set to size 1 it would be good if all numerics (0 to 9) were still grouped together - not seperately as 0,1,2,3 etc. Similiar to library browser 0-9, A,B,C,D etc.

Thanks.


Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: cascius on September 30, 2004, 04:50:50 pm
I like it too.

The DSp Output format now works great again.

Thanks,

-Cascius
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on September 30, 2004, 05:09:33 pm
Who cares about all that details image view stuff?!? All I have to say is:

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6. NEW: CD ripper option to rip multiple tracks to a single file with associated cue file works now.

[size=12]YAY!!![/size]
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: bbrip on September 30, 2004, 05:23:16 pm
Thanks for ensuring that the rip function works again. And the enhanced rip to single track option is certainly valuable as well.

I noticed one potential bug:

The Encoding (in my case from WAV to APE) sometimes just hangs up on a track and keeps displays "Encoding" while MC11 happily rips and encodes on with the following tracks.   This seems to happen particulary if running two ripping processes via two CD drives in parallel.

Would be great if this could be fixed in the next update

BB
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on September 30, 2004, 05:25:47 pm
DirectX Host is gone from my DSP menu . . .I mean the name is there and I can click on it, but there is nothing displayed, just a blank black space.   :o


It has mysteriously returned.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on September 30, 2004, 06:07:51 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

It adds some color to the lines... But the images are way to small to be of any use...

Something like this but half the 1/4 of the size of tiles would be cool...


Converting to WMA... All the tag fields seem to convert over except for Ratings...
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on September 30, 2004, 06:14:17 pm
A couple of ripping requests :

1. For the Rip to Single File option, can we specify filename naming scheme? Currently it just names the ripped file (APE in my case) and CUE sheet as the album name. I'd prefer it as [Artist] - [Album], both for the APE and CUE sheet. For the CD I just ripped (Megadeth - Rust In Peace), I would like to wind up with Megadeth\Rust In Peace\Megadeth - Rust In Peace.ape and Megadeth - Rust In Peace.cue.

2.  When MC automatically downloads coverart, can we have an option to save that cover art in the same folder as the ripped files, and have it named what we want (in my case, I'd like it named folder.jpg).

3. Can the secure ripper be set to automatically save a log file to the folder that the files were ripped to in a naming scheme of our choice? Again, in the example from above, I'd like it to be Megadeth\Rust In Peace\Megadeth Rust In Peace.log


The end result would be to have the following files in the Megadeth\Rust In Peace folder:

folder.jpg
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.ape
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.cue
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.log

If these could be done, then ripping would be perfect, IMO.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Dragyn on September 30, 2004, 06:21:51 pm
folder.jpg
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.ape
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.cue
Megadeth - Rust In Peace.log

If these could be done, then ripping would be perfect, IMO.

exactly the way I do it....except I probably would like the apl files created too.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on September 30, 2004, 06:23:48 pm
Was just wondering if it would be possible to add MAME support to MC... All I'm really thinking is to add .bin files to the list of supported files and have MC fire them up in MAME32 or something. It could be a really sweet addition for users of Theatre View.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Shelly on September 30, 2004, 08:17:01 pm
I think the icons are great, especially after increasing the font size to an 11, making them easier to view.  
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: GRAYDOG on September 30, 2004, 08:22:49 pm
Matt, I like the way it looks with all the album covers it does add color , Is there away to make them bigger?
Title: Re:Menu "List style" disappeared!
Post by: pepe lopex on September 30, 2004, 08:48:16 pm
I finish fixing using version 11.1.092 MC and have updated to 11.1.093 in case it had been a confusion and it had been corrected.  

But I am afraid that nobody has realized:  The menu "List Style" has disappeared that forms the format of visualization of the listings ("View List Formats").  

Before, List Style option could be found in the menu bar under "View" or doing right-click in the list and select "View > List Style".  Now this option is had lost (or they have changed it place to another and I have not found out).   :-[

View > Customize Current View or Ctrl+U



Thanks to answer, Matt.  

This mode to do it already knew it.  

What happens that is not as practical as was before.  
To use "View > Customize Current View" implies many more steps and a change of almost permanent visualization.  

Of the other mode, or using the keyboard short cuts (that now are only described in the aid of the program and they do not have own menu) he is much more easy and comfortable.

To use Ctrl+U to alternate between the views is very heavy, mainly when they are loaded to cover arts.  

Even there is disappear, to place in the bar of tools, the unique button from which list could be selected to nobody style in only two clicks.

I would like that it remained as she were before.

 ;)

The improvements are thanked for, but I like MC by his great versatility and the practitioner whom its handling is.  

It has many things (like this and the one of dialog status "Import info") which well they are done from previous versions, and are very useful and beneficial for present and future users.

I think that it would be good for conserving all these details so that MC continue gaining points.

thx
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Shelly on September 30, 2004, 08:52:40 pm
Matt, I like the way it looks with all the album covers it does add color , Is there away to make them bigger?

Options-->Tree&View--->Select Font
Increase the font size, which will make the text larger, but the icon size will also increase.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: GHammer on September 30, 2004, 11:30:33 pm
9. NEW: Updated DirectX Host plugin to not use resources or startup time unless it's enabled. (download here: http://accessories.musicex.com/mediacenter/accessories.php )
Thanks Matt. Seems to be much smoother/faster on my system even when enabled.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: mysixstring on October 01, 2004, 01:08:36 am
I have some issues with the search bar.

MC10 use to update the search in real-time as I typed. Is this a change that I missed somewhere down the line? I also noticed that when I am typing in a search and hit the backspace button instead of deleting the previous character, it navagates backwards. I find this to be very annoying.

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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible.
I'm diggin' this change as well
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: NoCodeUK on October 01, 2004, 02:11:05 am
I like the idea of the icons in details view but it is currently very small.  What would be very nice, although I am not sure if its possible, would be to have the album display in its own cell next to the list.  So you have one img per album kinda like this:


       +-----------------------------------------------+
       +         +______________________________________+
       +         +______________________________________+
       +  img    +_____________________________________+
       +         +______________________________________+
       +-----------------------------------------------+


Adam
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: bytestar on October 01, 2004, 04:59:58 am
I have the following error in the Media center 11/93.  If I search  for media files the programm hang up.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on October 01, 2004, 06:34:46 am
Matt, I like the way it looks with all the album covers it does add color , Is there away to make them bigger?

Options-->Tree&View--->Select Font
Increase the font size, which will make the text larger, but the icon size will also increase.

I increased the fonr from 8pt to 18pt. The letters are huge, but the picture only increased a very very small %.... I don't think that is the answer.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on October 01, 2004, 11:28:03 am
Still getting the "Server Busy" error box,
this time while trying to navigate to a local folder (even as local as on the same drive).

The CANCEL button is NOT available for use as it is still stuck in the down position.

 ?

Oddly this is happening while playing music (any filetype, on disk or interten stream) and you I must use Task Manager to get out of it.

If I try the same navigation while No Music is Playing, MC navigates fine.


Update:
removed plugins which made no difference until I changed my audio settings to wave mapper, then I got my sound back and it is working OK again.  
I do not know why I but have had the audio fail in the past also and rebooting did not help then either.
The only cure I found then also was switching to wave mapper. In every instance I was not even able to get sound through my other soundcard in any mode (except wave mapper again).
I was later able to go back to using ASIO, Direct Sound or Wave Out on either card for no apparent reason. Could this be a windows issue?
(Sorry, I do not recall whether this occured before I switched to Win XP from Win2K or not . . I think maybe yes.)

Still seeing the "Server Busy" box, and cannot cancel, cannot stop play, cannot do anything but use Task Manager to crash MC (unless you get lucky and click retry between tracks)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AnalogRoaming on October 01, 2004, 02:09:56 pm
Was just wondering if it would be possible to add MAME support to MC... All I'm really thinking is to add .bin files to the list of supported files and have MC fire them up in MAME32 or something. It could be a really sweet addition for users of Theatre View.

Look at MAMEWAH (google it)  and add a button to Theater View to launch it. MameWah is a tv front end for ANY emulator... it's a little odd to figure out at first, but it's really nice once you get used to it.

PM me if you have questions, I'd be willing to help, as this is the setup I use on my HTPC.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on October 01, 2004, 04:18:33 pm
8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note

Can this still show the old yellow icon for files which have not yet been imported?
As it is you cannot decipher a difference visually.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Marra on October 01, 2004, 06:46:37 pm
Just noticed WMA files not playing.  Don't know how long this has been.

Media Center 11.0.93 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1400 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 83 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive D: LITEON  CD-ROM LTN403     Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive F: MITSUMI CR-4804TE         Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: MITSUMI  CR-4804TE          Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  BurnProof:No
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: JimH on October 01, 2004, 06:49:31 pm
WMA files play in build 93.  Please start a new thread.  You may have protected files.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: TimB on October 01, 2004, 08:41:29 pm
I'd LOVE the mini-thumbnails if they weren't so mini. :)

-=Tim=-
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Polonio on October 01, 2004, 08:45:55 pm
I dont know if there are some bugs, or there is something wrong in my system... but I've found some serious troubles in this version:

1. Filtering by Date(month) does not work on panes. When I select any month, no images are showed in the detailed view.

2.- Renaming files from properties does not work. It updated library, but didnt move the files (so the links broke...)

3.- Importing from Windows Explorer does not seem to work

Are anyone else having the same problems?

Media Center Registered 11.0.93 -- C:\Archivos de programa\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium III 1090 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1031 MB, Free - 711 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive D: TEAC    DV-28E-B          Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Dragyn on October 01, 2004, 09:41:51 pm
backspace is doing a "back"  ? ::) >:(
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: TAFKAFEX on October 02, 2004, 05:22:55 am
backspace is doing a "back"  ? ::) >:(

Concerning the searchbox: This drives me crazy.(http://www.fex.ch/jumpy.gif)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Jaguu on October 02, 2004, 07:32:03 am
BUG:

In Playing Now quitting the G-Force Pro visualization does not reload the cover art image of the currently playing track. In all subsequent selections (track info, cover art, MC visualization, 3-D visualization) it falls back to the default MC icon.
Restart of Playing Now does not help. Only a restart of MC11 reloads the cover art image again.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: editdsn on October 02, 2004, 09:41:42 am
i'd still like to see the Import File Summary window brought back, very useful. maybe have an prefs option to enable or disable it?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on October 02, 2004, 10:19:20 am
1- MC still leaving empty folders on the drive after files have been moved (confirmed empty in Windows Explorer {even hidden & system files})

2- Using "Image->> Quick Find in File/Cover Art Folder" MC fails to find image IF not in same case . . . .
does this really need to be case sensitive thus causing the need to manually "Add from file"?

3- BTW, the "Server Busy" error that has been locking up MC on me only happens when navigating in the tree pane within MC, while MC is doing something else (i.e.: playing a file, analyzing audio, etc) I tried stepping back a few versions but no change.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: pepe lopex on October 02, 2004, 12:50:19 pm
MC it is delayed enough when acceding to the options of the program (menu "Tools > Options").
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Fixer on October 02, 2004, 01:44:02 pm
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

Yes...  but WHAT IF we could right click or hover on it and get a larger view?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: paulbailie on October 02, 2004, 02:56:36 pm
The "write cd text" option hasn't worked for the last few builds.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on October 03, 2004, 11:38:35 am
I believe I have fixed the "Server Busy" error . . . . .

I had to uninstall some plugins from within the Windows "Add/Remove Programs" as well as from within MC . . . just uninstalling them within MC11 apparently was not enough.

I also did a clean reinstall of MC (with a reboot between the uninstall and reinstall operations).

This appears to have been sucessful (so far), but unfortunately I lost my:
~ Favorites, ~ Top & Bottom Toolbar customization, ~ TV Tuner channels (with tags to match the station names),
as only Library with ViewSchemes and Playlists gets backed up, NOT these other settings.

PLEASE build in some way for these other settings to be backed up as well, they are time-consuming to restore manually.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: IanG on October 03, 2004, 11:49:55 am
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8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)

Kind of distracting and too small to be useful.

Yes...  but WHAT IF we could right click or hover on it and get a larger view?

You can hover over it, but it's very slow, even with a 3 Gig P4.  Maybe if it was quicker...

Ian G.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Valissystem on October 03, 2004, 03:15:54 pm
So the new mini-thumbnails in details view are OK but really only a frill. I wouldn't mind them too much except that by replacing the previous icons, I now can't easily tell whether a file is imported or not - nor which file is currently being played (from looking at the list).
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Michel Lefebvre on October 03, 2004, 04:00:53 pm
Just noticed something:

When ripping a CD, MC goes to the Internet to go get the album cover but does not add it to the last song being ripped. All the other songs get the album cover added to the file.

Don't know if this matters, but I rip in APE format.

M.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Valissystem on October 03, 2004, 04:20:14 pm
1) Moving files can leave Over the weekend was moving some files by renaming in Media Center. I happened to move a file that was playing at the time. Now previously MC was pretty gracious about this in that if it could rename the file, it would and continue. However this time, it seems to have tried to move - updated the database but left the file there.

So I now have a file that is "missing" as far as the database, and the file on the disk where it was originally.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: bebop on October 03, 2004, 04:44:19 pm
Just got MC 11 and noticed that after I had it playing for a few hours and minimized  while I did some other work, that when I restored the view, all the names of all the songs had disappeared!  The little album icons were there and all the other info - just no file names!!! And as and aside, those little icons are not very useful - way too small to see (yes, I even put on my multifocals  ;D, and even changing the font size to 11 I still couldn't make out what they were...and they seem to slow things down.   Another annoying thing - my zen isn't even seen and I can't find a plugin for it on the portables board either.  

Media Center 11.0.93 -- D:\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2522 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 649 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive F:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive G:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: ATAPI    DVD DUAL 8X4X12    Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Drive G: SONY     CD-RW  CRX230E     Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:52  MaxSpeed:52  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: KeystoneCop on October 03, 2004, 04:44:31 pm
Moving files ..  Yeap back to changing the index and not moving the file. same problem here.


AppName: media center.exe    AppVer: 11.0.93.0    ModName: roxiompegdemuxer.dll
ModVer: 3.0.376.0    Offset: 000187cc
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: pank2002 on October 03, 2004, 05:05:03 pm
Gotta agree with some of the other guys. The new images are just too small which make them rather useless as of now.

However, as pointed out by some of the other guys, this is a great opportunity too add the lon awaited big single coverart with the detailed view next to it. I'm thinking *something* along the lines of this (of course just nicer:)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/pank2002/CA.png)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Michel Lefebvre on October 03, 2004, 05:25:15 pm
I like it!

M.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on October 03, 2004, 06:46:17 pm
Gotta agree with some of the other guys. The new images are just too small which make them rather useless as of now.

However, as pointed out by some of the other guys, this is a great opportunity too add the lon awaited big single coverart with the detailed view next to it. I'm thinking *something* along the lines of this (of course just nicer:)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/pank2002/CA.png)

That would work if you had a few songs from the same album... But what if you had 1 or 2 songs from a bunch of albums being diplayed?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: cncb on October 03, 2004, 09:38:22 pm
It seems that the zone-specific windows messages have stopped working.  They all seem to control the current zone.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: michel on October 04, 2004, 09:30:51 am
Still the bug in the preset "calendar" view scheme (already reported):

Importing my pictures I get date field automatically fulfilled as "26/09/2004 15:06" (as an example). In result, MC calculates day field = 26, month field = 9 and year field = 2004. That is ok.

I can display pictures selecting a year and/or a day in the calendar view scheme but I cannot select any month since in this case MC displays none picture.

I think it get confuse between numeric representation of month (1, 2,...) and alphanumeric representation of months (january, february,...).
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: bebop on October 04, 2004, 10:04:43 am
update:  did an uninstall, reboot, and reinstall and I managed to get my song names back.  Also made sure that I had all my firewalls, and other prgrms off before doing the reinstall.  It's been 14+ hrs now with a few other programs running in the background and all is well...except for the zen.  Even following the instructions in the portables thread didn't get me a plug in for the zen. I either end up with nothing or the last version 10 plugin that doesn't work.  Just as an aside - like the split view, but how can I toggle out of it easily (having to exit the program or go to the action window , choose burn cd,go to next, and then cancel is way too many things to do just to switch views....IMO.  Am going to play with the document handling today.  Regardless of how that works, I'll be sending in my $ as soon as I get that zen working.  Thanks guys.  
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: SteveG on October 04, 2004, 10:14:27 am
bebop,

You should not install any plugins with MC 11 for Zen. Please post what is the exact name for your model of Zen as it appears in the MC tree and I will make modifications so that the plugin installs automatically.

Steve
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Marra on October 04, 2004, 10:15:19 am
Bepop's problem
"Just got MC 11 and noticed that after I had it playing for a few hours and minimized  while I did some other work, that when I restored the view, all the names of all the songs had disappeared!  The little album icons were there and all the other info - just no file names!!! "
FYI I also had this happen to me.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: bebop on October 04, 2004, 10:24:18 am
Steve, will continue this in the portables thread so there's no confusion.  Bet
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: JollyJim on October 05, 2004, 01:39:43 am
I'm not sure how long this has been there.....

I can't open any 'document' type files, they import ok but they don't appear on the file associations so I can't tick them. When I try to open them, I get the following message - 'The media types of the selected files are not supported for playback. (Data)'

Media Center Registered 11.0.93 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium III 599 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 130 MB, Free - 6 MB
Resource Info: System - 50 %, GDI - 68 %, User - 50 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shell32.dll: 4.72.3612.1700 / wnaspi32.dll: 2, 0, 0, 0 , ASPI for WIN32 DLL, Copyright © Adaptec 1995 / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive E: DVDROM 8X                 Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive F:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: PHILIPS  PCRW804            Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  BurnProof:No
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Alweb on October 05, 2004, 12:58:27 pm
Bugs
- Import files is very slow and the summary not appear when finished. It also don't jump to Recent Imported Files.
- BackSpace in Search Box don't work.
- Rename files while playing the file don't work.
Tks!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: Omni on October 05, 2004, 01:09:41 pm
Okay, I just finally installed the latest MC 11, and my previous version did not have the Library Browser feature, so maybe this has already been covered.

When clicking on the little down arrow by the "View: All Meda" menu, the context menu pops up at what seems to be a fixed offset to right of the "Files" tab.

(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/5084/MC11_FileBrowser.jpg)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: TimB on October 05, 2004, 01:43:51 pm
Rename Files from Properties is sometimes leaving files behind in old directories instead of moving them.  The "Filename" in MC11's display  is updated but the file isn't there.

-=Tim=-
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: skeeterfood on October 05, 2004, 03:33:58 pm
When clicking on the little down arrow by the "View: All Meda" menu, the context menu pops up at what seems to be a fixed offset to right of the "Files" tab.

Same here...

-John
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.93 Alpha Available
Post by: KeystoneCop on October 05, 2004, 04:55:09 pm
I have been moving a lot of files around.
Just did a find duplicates on "filename" had over 9000 so i don't think it has anything to do with errors. i deleted them and imported again.