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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: Omni on October 01, 2004, 03:53:28 pm

Title: MC 11 and WMP 10 Coexistence Status
Post by: Omni on October 01, 2004, 03:53:28 pm
Okay, wow... I've been without my music and Media Center for going on two months now.   :o   I've had a shell of computer with nothing but an OS installed while I was on my quest for "rock solid" stability.  I finally achieved my goal, and now I need to install all my old software.

Here's my question to the JRiver developers.  After I reinstall Windows XP (SP2 slip-streamed in), WMP 9 will be installed automatically.  I plan on upgrading it to Windows Media Player 10.  So which should I do first?  Should I upgrade to WMP 10 and then install MC 11, or should I install MC 11 first before upgrading WMP?

Along with my quest for stability, I am also on a quest to minimize system bloat and clutter.  I say that because I imagine either installation order might work, but I want to eliminate (if possible) any potential codec conflicts which Windows will probably hide from me but will exist nonetheless.  (I guess the gray area here is that I am not sure if MC 11 installs WMA 9 codecs even if they are already present on the system.)
Title: Re:MC 11 and WMP 10 Coexistence Status
Post by: Omni on October 04, 2004, 03:07:33 am
*bump* (for the morning when people come back to work  :P)
Title: Re:MC 11 and WMP 10 Coexistence Status
Post by: JimH on October 04, 2004, 07:06:33 am
Omni,
I think you can install in either order.  The only problem I'm aware of is one with WMA lossless codecs and MC10.  

Good luck.
Title: Re:MC 11 and WMP 10 Coexistence Status
Post by: hit_ny on October 05, 2004, 03:51:56 am
Okay, wow... I've been without my music and Media Center for going on two months now.   :o   I've had a shell of computer with nothing but an OS installed while I was on my quest for "rock solid" stability.  I finally achieved my goal, and now I need to install all my old software.

Along with my quest for stability, I am also on a quest to minimize system bloat and clutter.  I say that because I imagine either installation order might work, but I want to eliminate (if possible) any potential codec conflicts which Windows will probably hide from me but will exist nonetheless.  (I guess the gray area here is that I am not sure if MC 11 installs WMA 9 codecs even if they are already present on the system.)

This sounds interesting, what tests did you do run to achieve "rock solid" stability ?

I also have another test to throw at you. It involves using a sfv/md5 generator for all media files. Run it to create the sfv or md5, then run it again to check. Md5 uses 128bits to generate a checksum compared to 32 bits used by sfv.

I have tried this on a small section of my collection but find sfv errors in a few files that were not modified. So am curious to know whether i might have a problem with stability.

The program i used is Advanced Checksum Verifier (http://www.irnis.net/)[/u]. Its quite fast and is fully functional for a test. Its quite configurable so you set it to create a master sfv/md5 list for all subdirs, so as to minimise clutter.

Try it with a small section first then move towards all of your media. In theory, if the files are not modified, they should pass the test.
Title: Re:MC 11 and WMP 10 Coexistence Status
Post by: Omni on October 05, 2004, 12:48:48 pm
I don't know.  After nearly two months of grief, heartache, and frustration, I'm at the point where I'm embracing the notion that ignorance is bliss.  :P  In other words, I'm not sure I want to run anymore stability/stress tests--why push my luck?  8)

My stability problems were finally solved by the simple act of replacing my Abit AV8 motherboard with an MSI K8N Neo2 motherboard and using a beta bios.

In summary, my current definition of "rock solid stability" is as follows:

24 hours of Memtest86+ (http://www.memtest.org) (2 passes of extended tests followed by looping standard tests)
24 hours of Prime95 (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) (I actually ran it for 30 hours (http://img48.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img48&image=Prime95-30h00m.jpg))
24 hours of 3DMarkŪ03 (http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark03.shtml) (you have to pay $15 to be able to do this though)
20 passes of SuperPI (http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/Pi/Super_Pi.html) (32M digits) [this comes to about 10-11 hours on my machine]

Yes, I know 3dMark05 is out, but it wasn't at the time of my testing.