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Title: Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on October 05, 2004, 05:20:06 pm
We're still working on Media Center 11.  We appreciate your feedback on it, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it.  When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your view schemes.  Some plugins still do not work.

We recommend that you use MC10 below, but if you want to use MC 11 while we're building it, PRICES are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311)

If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/download.html

Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110095.exe  [see price link above]

Recent Changes

11.0.95 (10/05/04)

1. Fixed: Switching from Full Screen View at a non-desktop resolutions would cause Theater View to be the wrong size.
2. Changed: Theater View uses the same resolution as Full Screen View.
3. Changed: The mouse cursor turns to a hand when over a list item where a click will do something right away. (like the rating column)
4. Changed: Upload speed improvements from MC to Portables.
5. NEW: When 'ShowDeviceID' is entered in 'OpenURL' path, Windows unique portable device identifier will be displayed for Removable drive type portables.
6. NEW: CD Ripping: Cue file naming convention is configurable in advanced ripping options dialog.
7. NEW: The advanced ripping options dialog has an added option to automatically save the secure mode log file to the same directory as the ripped files.
8. NEW: CD ripping options page has added option to turn off the "auto-rip" mode. When disabled, MC won't automatically start ripping a newly inserted CD.
9. NEW: Support for fixed drive mass storage portable devices which are not WMDM compatible.
10. Fixed: Some calculated fields (like month) were not working properly in searches and in the panes.
11. Fixed: Some keyboard shortcuts were being translated in the search box when they shouldn't have been. (backspace, etc.)
12. Fixed: Dropping files onto Media Library would not update the view to show the new files.
13. NEW: Added context menu option to update CD info from the cdplayer.ini file rather than YADB.
14. NEW: Added "Split View" controls to View menu. (ctrl+shift+click keyboard easter-egg removed)
15. Fixed: Library Browser "View: Audio" menu would not show under the words on large sizes.
16. NEW: Retooled history system to maintain a seperate history for each split view.
17. Changed: Forward / back inside a webpage view won't leave the view anymore.
18. Changed: Non DRM wma files will transfer to Portable Devices which are not WMDM compatible.

11.0.93 (9/30/04)

1. Fixed: Uninstaller could show an error in some cases during a complete uninstall.
2. Fixed: Using the Format Converter DSP with no resampling could cause a crash at the end of a track.
3. Fixed: ASIO playback could crash with some cards when playing mono files.
4. Fixed: Sample rate conversion would not work properly with channel conversion on as well.
5. Fixed: Double click playback for files on USB portables works again.
6. NEW: CD ripper option to rip multiple tracks to a single file with associated cue file works now.
7. Fixed: WMA files with large data or internal art could cause crashes in some cases. (introduced 11.0.92)
8. NEW: Details view uses file image instead of stock music note, picture, etc. when possible. (experimental -- feedback welcome)
9. NEW: Updated DirectX Host plugin to not use resources or startup time unless it's enabled. (download here: http://accessories.musicex.com/mediacenter/accessories.php )

MC 11 Improvements

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: LonWar on October 05, 2004, 06:35:31 pm
Things are really lookin good guys...

a couple of things.

1. When you go into split view (2 or 3) and then go back to 1, you have to resize the pane to make it useable. Anyway to make this default to half screen when you turn split off?
(Let me know if you want a pic.)

2. I keep on changing my ratings by accident. Is there anyway you guys can create a tag lock?

3. The track mouse overs. Can we have an option to remove the file path? Some of these things just get huge...

Oh and


9. NEW: Updated DirectX Host plugin to not use resources or startup time unless it's enabled. (download here: http://accessories.musicex.com/mediacenter/accessories.php )


I am a simpleton... What exactly is this?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Omni on October 05, 2004, 07:26:25 pm
Bug:  Backup/Restore library is unreliable when used in conjuction with Import/Fix-Broken-Links.


Unfortunately, I can't really give step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce what happened, but I'll do my best to describe things.


Not only that, but playing these unrestored and now "even more" broken links actually played tracks!  Funny.  The tracks that were played had absolutely no association (in name/album/artist reference I mean) with the original tracks, but they played nonetheless.  (To add to that, the track being played did not match the file listed in the "filename" tag.)


Anyway, as I was typing this, it occurred to me that i could have tried restoring the original backup (from my backup DVD, i.e., the backup I used yesterday), but I have spent the last hour fixing everything, so I would prefer not to try that at this point.  :)
Title: Zone-specific Windows messages don't work
Post by: cncb on October 05, 2004, 07:39:21 pm
Windows messages no longer can control a specific zone.  For example, "10003,16777216" and "10003,33554432" both cause a skip to the next song in the active zone instead of the specific zone they are supposed to control.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: RemyJ on October 05, 2004, 10:40:32 pm
After burning a data CD or DVD, the drive can't be used by other programs until exiting MC.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: zxsix on October 05, 2004, 11:12:02 pm

Recent Changes

11.0.95 (10/05/04)

4. Changed: Upload speed improvements from MC to Portables.

6.4 MB/s for me on the archos jukebox.  Ipod is up to date so will have to test that in a few days.


5. NEW: When 'ShowDeviceID' is entered in 'OpenURL' path, Windows unique portable device identifier will be displayed for Removable drive type portables.

More details on this one please?

9. NEW: Support for fixed drive mass storage portable devices which are not WMDM compatible.

Awesome.  Recognized the archos jukebox straightaway.  You guys sure know how to get yourselves added to someone's Christmas list I tell ya  :D
Thanks for doing this so quickly!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: GHammer on October 05, 2004, 11:57:32 pm
9. NEW: Updated DirectX Host plugin to not use resources or startup time unless it's enabled. (download here: http://accessories.musicex.com/mediacenter/accessories.php )


I am a simpleton... What exactly is this?

Try this link.
http://www.thedirectxfiles.com/species.htm (http://www.thedirectxfiles.com/species.htm)
Title: DirectX Host Not Visible
Post by: GHammer on October 06, 2004, 12:01:32 am
When I installed this release and ran it I looked at the DSP Studio and the DirextX Host was visible and my plugin was there and usable.

I closed MC then ran it again.  The DirectX Host is checked but is not visible. If I toggle it on and off the sound changes, so it is active. I just can't change settings or add/remove plugins.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: paulr on October 06, 2004, 01:35:08 am
Quote
7. NEW: The advanced ripping options dialog has an added option to automatically save the secure mode log file to the same directory as the ripped files.
8. NEW: CD ripping options page has added option to turn off the "auto-rip" mode. When disabled, MC won't automatically start ripping a newly inserted CD.

Excellent!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: sirshambling on October 06, 2004, 02:12:08 am
Sadly my ripping speeds still don't go over 2 - mostly around 1.3 whereas with MC10 I get over 5 times.

Same setiings - I've checked and checked. Secure/max.

Can anybody suggest anything please?

TIA. John.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: JollyJim on October 06, 2004, 04:31:42 am
I'm not sure how long this has been there.....

I can't open any 'document' type files, they import ok but they don't appear on the file associations so I can't tick them. When I try to open them, I get the following message - 'The media types of the selected files are not supported for playback. (Data)'

Media Center Registered 11.0.95 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium III 599 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 130 MB, Free - 22 MB
Resource Info: System - 58 %, GDI - 77 %, User - 58 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shell32.dll: 4.72.3612.1700 / wnaspi32.dll: 2, 0, 0, 0 , ASPI for WIN32 DLL, Copyright © Adaptec 1995 / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive E: DVDROM 8X                 Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: JaredH on October 06, 2004, 04:34:34 am
It could be a bug, or something that hasnt been implemented yet.

Should split views be reverting back to 1 view mode when exiting and restarting MC? If so, are there any plans to make an option to tell MC to stay in split view mode?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: bebop on October 06, 2004, 12:09:56 pm
There seems to be something going on with the "copy Listening To"  button...it  did nothing, then on the third time, sent me to google!  I exited that and then it pasted my song title just fine.   ?

Listening to: 'Magic, The' from 'Unknown' by 'Cars' on Media Center 11
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on October 06, 2004, 12:27:52 pm
Thanks for adding those extra options to ripping! They're working great!

A couple of questions, though (of course):

Are there any plans to have MC11 be able to write tag data for CUE sheets out to an external file? Either the CUE, the APE, or even some third file? I don't want to get too far into ripping my CDs and then wish I'd been using APL files the whole time...

Alternatively, do you know if there's any chance MC could optionally create the APL files at rip time? I could just delete the CUE sheet from my library, create the APLs using MAC, and then import those, but it seems like a really roundabout route of doing things.  So if either of these is a possibility, then it would be awesome.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: AnalogRoaming on October 06, 2004, 02:43:18 pm
Some leftovers:

1. I chose to show the Documents view scheme in Theater view, but it's not there and there's no way to add it via "configure theater view"

2. Pressing EXIT in Theater View always brings me back to Full Screen mode, even if I entered Theater View from the standard view.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on October 06, 2004, 02:49:30 pm
Some leftovers:

1. I chose to show the Documents view scheme in Theater view, but it's not there and there's no way to add it via "configure theater view"

Why would you want to access documents from Theater View? Just curious what you're doing (might give me ideas. :) ).

Quote
2. Pressing EXIT in Theater View always brings me back to Full Screen mode, even if I entered Theater View from the standard view.

That's a feature. IOW, it's by design.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Alex B on October 06, 2004, 02:54:45 pm
Are there any plans to have MC11 be able to write tag data for CUE sheets out to an external file? Either the CUE, the APE, or even some third file? I don't want to get too far into ripping my CDs and then wish I'd been using APL files the whole time...

Alternatively, do you know if there's any chance MC could optionally create the APL files at rip time? I could just delete the CUE sheet from my library, create the APLs using MAC, and then import those, but it seems like a really roundabout route of doing things.  So if either of these is a possibility, then it would be awesome.

I have asked that and tried to explain why physical files for tags are needed in the Cue file support in MC11 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23221) thread.

In my opinion the best solution could be APL files with added support for other filetypes besides APE. That should be possible, because MC can now seek for CUE sheet based MP3, OGG, MPC and WMA files. Actually I have noticed that Foobar2000 can make APL files from CUE+OGG. They can be played with Foobar2000, but not (yet?) with MC.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Doof on October 06, 2004, 03:07:12 pm
Are there any plans to have MC11 be able to write tag data for CUE sheets out to an external file? Either the CUE, the APE, or even some third file? I don't want to get too far into ripping my CDs and then wish I'd been using APL files the whole time...

Alternatively, do you know if there's any chance MC could optionally create the APL files at rip time? I could just delete the CUE sheet from my library, create the APLs using MAC, and then import those, but it seems like a really roundabout route of doing things.  So if either of these is a possibility, then it would be awesome.

I have asked that and tried to explain why physical files for tags are needed in the Cue file support in MC11 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23221) thread.

In my opinion the best solution could be APL files with added support for other filetypes besides APE. That should be possible, because MC can now seek for CUE sheet based MP3, OGG, MPC and WMA files. Actually I have noticed that Foobar2000 can make APL files from CUE+OGG. They can be played with Foobar2000, but not (yet?) with MC.

Maybe MC could just use a slightly modified tagging methodology on the MP3, APE, or what-have-you file?
 
something like this for all the stuff that's common amongst all the tracks in the album:
 
ARTIST=Megadeth
ALBUM=Rust In Peace

and then something like this for all the stuff that varies from track to track:

TRACK1NAME=Holy Wars...The Punishment Due
TRACK1RATING=4
TRACK1LYRICS="..."

TRACK2NAME=Hangar 18
TRACK2RATING=5
TRACK2LYRICS="..."
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: Alex B on October 06, 2004, 03:28:53 pm
Maybe MC could just use a slightly modified tagging methodology on the MP3, APE, or what-have-you file? ...

I answered in the Cue file support in MC11 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23221) thread. This thread may get locked. (And it is for bugs only  ;) )
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: AnalogRoaming on October 06, 2004, 03:32:04 pm
Some leftovers:

1. I chose to show the Documents view scheme in Theater view, but it's not there and there's no way to add it via "configure theater view"

Why would you want to access documents from Theater View? Just curious what you're doing (might give me ideas. :) ).

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2. Pressing EXIT in Theater View always brings me back to Full Screen mode, even if I entered Theater View from the standard view.

That's a feature. IOW, it's by design.


1. Access docs from theater view would let me launch certain types of files... easier to launch programs, for example.  Like all the games I want to play, rather than having to make a button for each game.  Unless there's a way to add a "screen" to theater view and attach that "screen" to the main theater view menu, I sorta need this feature.

 Why have the option to "show in theater view" if its not going to be there. :) That's why I thought it might be a bug. Or maybe they're just not done with it yet.

2.  Exiting Theater View going to standard view seems right in some circumstances, but it also seems wrong. It's not intuitive. I never opened fullscreen mode, yet pressing exit brings me there. At first it was confusing the hell out of me.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: bytestar on October 07, 2004, 04:12:16 am
a new error for me

For at least the last few versions of MC 11, I get a Windows error whenever I try to run Media Server.  It bombs by systemstart.  
The Win error report says...

AppName: media server.exe    AppVer: 11.0.15.0    ModName: jrreader.dll
ModVer: 10.0.106.0    Offset: 00003538

My System is Windows XP SP2
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.95 Alpha Available
Post by: johnnyj on October 07, 2004, 11:39:55 am
When I'm trying to delete an album from the new library browser, The album gets deleted from disk  and then MC immediatly quits!?
The files are still in the library when I restart MC but x-marked..

Johnny