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Title: Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on October 19, 2004, 12:40:55 pm
We're still working on Media Center 11.  We appreciate your feedback on it, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it.  When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your view schemes.  Some plugins still do not work.

We recommend that you use MC10 below, but if you want to use MC 11 while we're building it, PRICES are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311)

If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/download.html

Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110106.exe  [see price link above]

Recent Changes

11.0.106 (10/19/04)

1. Fixed: MC could use 12/31/1969 as the album for DVD files in some cases.
2. Changed: Portable synchronization with m3u playlists will not include a leading '\\' in the m3u filepath on the portable device.
3. Fixed: Library Server didn't handle transcoding to the same codec properly.
4. Fixed: Right-clicking on a playlist list in the Action Window wouldn't always work properly.
5. NEW: Files can be dropped directly on "Build Playlist" in the Action Window to build a new playlist.
6. NEW: Added checkboxes next to the folder list in Import Media to allow easily switching what folders get searched for each import.
7. Fixed: Adding a folder to 'My Computer' wouldn't start in-place editing of the new folder's name.
8. Fixed: When adding the same menu (i.e. 'File') to multiple bars, menus wouldn't always open from the proper bar.
9. Fixed: Improved drag-n-drop logic to Media Library to only show both 'Move' and 'Copy' when it makes sense. (moving / copying view schemes)
10. Fixed: Library Restore wouldn't empty the destination directory before restoring the library -- possibly causing load failures or other strange behavior.
11. Fixed: Deleting items from the tree could cause the item to not properly be removed until the tree was collapsed and reexpanded.
12. Fixed: Right-clicking a tree item could also act like a left-click (switching views) in some cases.
13. Fixed: The 'Remove empty folders?' prompt could appear twice in a row in some cases.
14. Changed: Improved auto-complete speed when dealing with large lists. (like the Name field)
15. Fixed: Library Server handled QuickTime files incorrectly (looping).
16. Fixed: Duplicate files could get added to the library after performing external changes.
17. Changed: Right-click actions in the tree will rerun a smartlist instead of using the visible file list. (required for split view support)
18. NEW: The split view being controlled is changed by clicking inside the view. (instead of through a menu)
19. Changed: Split views are percentage based instead of 'bottom window pixels' based.
20. NEW: The number of split views visible is saved between sessions.

11.0.105 (10/15/04)

1. Changed: New handheld options page would have an extra border around it.
2. Fixed: Some controls like dividers wouldn't draw properly.
3. Fixed: My computer views wouldn't properly appear.
4. NEW: DVD fast forward / rewind rolls through seek speeds -- press play to stop seeking. (like a TiVo, etc.)
5. Changed: Added 16x forward and 16x reverse to DVD playback.

11.0.103 (10/15/04)

1. NEW: Many optimizations to UI layout engine -- making sizing and view switching faster.
2. Fixed: MC better handles MP3 files with invalid Xing headers.
3. Changed: Portable 'Options' is integrated with general 'Options' interface.
4. Changed: Building of large tree structures (Media Library, etc.) is faster.
5. Fixed: Portable track display bug introduced in 11.0.99
6. Fixed: Portable synchronization space available was not updating correctly. Also, selected playlists were not updating in the transfer queue.
7. Fixed: Files not unlocking properly when converting files on the fly to Portable Devices.84.
8. Fixed: Clicking OK on devices options page would crash MC (from rip action window).
9. Fixed: Smartlist changes would not always show up as expected when returning to a view until MC was restarted.
10. Changed: Internal volume control uses a logarithmic scale so half-volume sounds more like half as loud to a human ear.
11. Fixed: Files with # in the name were not streamed by Library Server
12. Changed: Increased the auto-complete combobox item limit from 2048 to 8192. (will show <too many items to list> after that)
13. Fixed: Some actions like dropping files on a playlist or doing a Send To > CD Drive would show an unnecessary menu asking "Move or Copy."
14. NEW: A mapped network drive can be accessed as a portable device if the volume label is entered in Plugin Manager->Portable Devices->Configure
15. Changed: Scanning for fixed and remote drive portables must be enabled in Tools->Options->Handheld Options for MC to scan for these drives.
16. Fixed: Tree would not auto-expand when clicking outside of the item text. (even though the selection would change)
17. NEW: Added .url to the import list for web-page type documents.

MC 11 Improvements

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Matt on October 19, 2004, 12:41:57 pm
Just a disclaimer that this build introduces a new message routing system.  Let us know if you encounter any kinks, and thanks for your patience.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: bennyd on October 19, 2004, 01:11:24 pm
When right clicking on eg a "genre" in the panes and choose "play", it does not play the selected genre only but plays the complete library

** edited **

When clicking on "send to", it says "no files elected"
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: pietro on October 19, 2004, 01:36:27 pm
Still missing the Album art "mini" icons in detail view. Could this be an option (or just disply them as in previous builds)??

Thanks
-Pietro
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: KeystoneCop on October 19, 2004, 02:14:07 pm
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Fixed: Duplicate files could get added to the library after performing external changes.
 THANKS. looks good so far.

NEXT.  I love Kings Plugins, So please don't take me wrong when i point out things.

had 61 titles in playing now.  Ran THE MASTER to remove "the" from Artist.  Media Center Ran very slow and was at 98% cpu.  (each one was fixed)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: bennyd on October 19, 2004, 02:52:08 pm
Can there be a more visible way to see which view is active when using split screens ?

Sometimes it's hard too see which one is active, when then navigating via the tree, the wrong screen gets updated.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: bennyd on October 19, 2004, 03:09:10 pm
When using split screens, the search will search in both screens.

Can it be configured so that it only searches in the active screen ?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Neville on October 19, 2004, 03:22:59 pm
Click on TV Options is freezing my Media Center both in Options dialog and TV Tuner:
(http://www.kraljic.info/temp/tv.jpg)

Download manager is still crashing after succesfull download (tested on 2 computers WinXP and W2K)
(http://www.kraljic.info/temp/down.jpg)
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Alex B on October 19, 2004, 03:37:04 pm
Bugs:

1. Import with "Fix or remove broken links" option removes the CUE sheet based tracks from the library. (Bye-bye to tags!)

2. MC is still making error messages when CUE tracks are tagged (if the changed fields have "Store in file tags" option enabled).
 
3. It is a bit difficult to organize tracks which are imported from the CUE files. I imported also the main file, selected all and asked MC to move the "files" from properties to the correct folder. MC renamed the path correctly, but every reference changed from .mp3;n to .mp3_n (n is the sequence number). I had to do a "Find and Replace" to correct the references. Because CUE tracks don't have external tag containers location changes must be internal.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Alex B on October 19, 2004, 04:32:41 pm
MC disagrees with me about complete albums. I have correct track numbers, but because the same folders contain also imported and tagged album art images (without track numbers) MC don't see the albums as complete. MC should count only audio files.

I found some my mistakes and now things seem to be back to normal...
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: zeltak on October 19, 2004, 05:07:05 pm
Still missing the Album art "mini" icons in detail view. Could this be an option (or just disply them as in previous builds)??

Thanks
-Pietro

I really second that...i lOVED thats option adnd it didnt seem buggy (at least to the naked eye  ;)...) i really hope you guys are hearing all of us that would like it back as an option . thanks alot

Zeltak
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: zeltak on October 19, 2004, 05:20:40 pm
btw the sticky part is great but when you open MC again it reverts back to the start scheme,can it be changed to start in playing now, playlist or library like in the single view option?

zeltak
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: KingSparta on October 19, 2004, 05:21:20 pm
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had 61 titles in playing now.  Ran THE MASTER to remove "the" from Artist.  Media Center Ran very slow and was at 98% cpu.  (each one was fixed)  
 

 
Buy a faster computer
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Tiberius on October 19, 2004, 08:45:31 pm
Still seeiing thsi anomoly in the tree view:

I have my dirve with music files set up as Artist/Album/files.
When I expand "Disc Location" in the tree then exapnd an Artist folder with multiple sub-folders I also see at the top of the sub-folders an entry such as "All(3)" where the "3" correctly indicates the number of subfolders.

The bug is that if I select the  "All(3)" listing the right hand panel shows every file on the drive not just the contents of the 3 sub folders as I would expect.

Or am I misunderstanding?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Stupid User on October 19, 2004, 09:10:59 pm
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The number of split views visible is saved between sessions.

This is awesome.  Would it also be possible for all views (instead of just the topmost) to remember their last contents, between sessions?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: GHammer on October 19, 2004, 11:43:40 pm
A problem I saw with playlists a few builds ago is back.
I have a combination playlist, it uses two other Smartlists.
When I use it, I see the selections and order they will be played.
If I click the Play button or right click and choose play, the list that is shown is not the selections that are played.
Seems like playing the list reselects it for Playing Now.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: mkutsen on October 20, 2004, 02:48:56 am
I think the Library Browser needs "Back", "Forward" and "Home" buttons.

Beginners may prefer a few simple tabs (such as the Library Browser) on the left instead of the tree.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: raym on October 20, 2004, 05:53:52 am
Build New Playlist function causes MC to crash.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Alex B on October 20, 2004, 06:24:34 am
Build New Playlist function causes MC to crash.

Yes, it does (from Action Window and during the playback).

It was not very pleasant, because the soundcard got a serious machine gun syndrome.
Actually, I don't know how to stop that sound. I guess I have to reboot.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: edbro on October 20, 2004, 03:16:54 pm
Delete empty folders does not delete empty folders.

I moved a bunch of albums with the Rename File From Properties to a temporary folder. I noticed that "delete empty folders" did not work in the original directory. I moved the files back again to the original directory and again, the now empty folders from the temporary directory were not deleted.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: JimH on October 20, 2004, 03:36:37 pm
Hidden files?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: edbro on October 20, 2004, 03:40:27 pm
Hidden files?

Nope. The only files moved to the new directory and back again were the audio files that MC moved in the "Rename Files" process. Besides, I checked, no files such as desktop.ini. I have my file mgr set to show hidden files.

The only mitigating factor I can find is that I was moving hundreds of folders at a time. Maybe it overloaded MC or Windows?
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Sniffy on October 20, 2004, 03:43:14 pm
Hi
Archos Jukebox doesn't work anymore since 11.0.105
Pascal
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Marty3d on October 21, 2004, 02:28:29 am
*BUG*
MC 11.0.106 does not care about chosen criterias in Media Library

1. Selected Audio (using Artist, Album, Genre and Rating in view pane I believe it's called)
2. Selected Rating ?,4,5
3. Right-click -> Play
The result is that MC plays all files, including files rated 1, 2 and 3.

Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: adamsp70 on October 21, 2004, 04:50:43 am
Very minor thing, but when you restore a library, could they be listed in date order (descending) rather than alphabetically as it is now?

Ta....
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: adamsp70 on October 21, 2004, 05:37:17 am
When ripping a CD i occasionally get a popup saying there is a problem with the file, is it being used by something else etc.

The file is brand new, in a new directory, so it can't be to do with other things "owning" it. The mp3 seems to complete OK, but leaves behind a .MP3.XXXXXX file in the directory.

Not major - but a bit annoying.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: bytestar on October 21, 2004, 11:04:23 am
the selection dialog when deleting a file, does not show any options (there is no way to select the method to delete  :-[
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: AoXoMoXoA on October 21, 2004, 11:54:38 am
1- Although the Year is shown correctly (i.e. 2004) the Date shows the  long format until manually edited (MC assigns some other date during import or tagging).

2- MC misses Cover Art already in the Cover Art folder due to variables such as articles (the, a, etc), case of characters in the filename, accents (as in Bouree').  MC already can ignore articles in the library, perhaps this can be extended to the 'Quick find in file/ cover art directory" searches, or perhaps offer the nearest matches as options.

3- MC will create illegal filename lengths when using 'Rename files from properties', rather than truncating them or warning before the rename occurrs. This creates "corrupted" files which later crash MC and makes the files unusable..
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: Herakles on October 21, 2004, 11:58:01 am
Seeking bug: If i bring the slider all the way back to the beginning it seems as if it instead skip further into the song...
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: bytestar on October 21, 2004, 12:36:02 pm
cklick library Browser causes MC to crash.
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: pank2002 on October 21, 2004, 03:55:36 pm
request:
When using search ignore comma, point semi-colon etc.
  Fx I just did a search for REM. In my library they're tagged as r.e.m. so nothing showed up. That'd be great!
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: DougHamm on October 21, 2004, 09:26:42 pm
Hi guys,

I'm still getting erratic behavior with portable transfer w/ re-encode.  Here's what's been fixed:

1) No more locked files stuck in \temp directory

Unfortunately here's the latest behavior:
1) If I luck out, the first song of many that I transfer may do so and have its tags transferred too - this is the same in the last few builds
2) 38 times out of 45 I've ended up with a 0 byte file on the portable - this is new behavior
3) 5 times out of 45 I've ended up with the file on the portable in its entirety, but with no tags - this is the same in the last few builds - and the error "Media Center encountered errors while tagging and moving files.  Check that the files exist and are not in use by other programs.  Tagging error: songname.mp3

These are all randomly selected lossless .wma's tagged using Media Center, converted on the fly using the portable transfer wizard.  If I do a Convert Format... instead, and point the destination to the portable (my drive K:), the transfer/conversion works every time.

Thanks guys,

-Doug

UPDATE:  If I disable "Update tags when file info changes", I get 100% success on converted but tags are not transferred at all (that part makes sense I guess).
Title: Re:Media Center 11.0.106 Alpha Available
Post by: StarBand Guy on October 22, 2004, 09:51:54 am
That's kinda what I figured; just checking.  Thanks.

BTW, I LOVE 11.  I use Theater View almost exclusively with a Gyration remote.  The software is getting truly awesome.