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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: John Gateley on January 31, 2005, 02:08:20 pm
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MC's UPnP Server is available here:
http://www.jriver.com/~gateley/server_upnp1010.mjp
This is for Media Center 11 only.
Changes and fixes
1) Support for D-Link DSM320 (better object class definitions). Limited to music at this time, but we plan to add image playback soon.
2) Added resource size attribute.
3) Fixed resource duration attribute to be the correct format.
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Instructions for using the UPnP Server
Click on Plug-ins in MC's tree, then on UPnP Server. On the right side of the UPnP Server page, set "Options" and then click on "Start" to start the server.
If a media receiver is already on the network, and the server is started, the receiver should pick up the server right away. When a media receiver is first turned on, if the server is already started, the receiver should pick up the server. Some receivers may not do both correctly, so try both.
If you cannot see your view scheme, make sure that:
1) The View Scheme is selected to Show in Theater View (under Edit View Scheme).
2) The View Scheme is a child of "Audio", "Images" or "Video".
Options
You can convert files to MP3 as they are streamed. See Options on the UPnP page.
If you have multiple network interfaces on your computer, such as an ethernet and a bluetooth interface, you may need to specify the IP address the UPnP server uses (it will only listen on a single interface, and may choose the one the device is not on).
Unless you are reporting log information here, you can turn off many warings by unchecking "Warn on unrecognized NOTIFY".
Checkboxes are available for three special cases:
1. "Replace Empty Genre" is required for the NETGEAR MP101, and possibly others. It replaces blank genres with "Unknown". The MP101 will otherwise refuse to play tracks with blank genres.
2. "Use Flat URLs" is required for the SMC EZ Stream and the Terratec Noxon. These receivers cannot handle complex URLs (internal to the protocol) and this hack changes the URLs to simpler ones.
3. "Include SessionID" must be turned off for Roku. It may be required for others. If you know of a device that requires it, please let me know.
A log is generated on the UPnP Server page in MC. If you have a UPnP device that doesn't work, you can copy the log from MC's UPnP Server (under the tree/plug-ins) and paste it into a thread here. Make sure the "Warn on unrecognized NOTIFY" option is selected before creating the log.
A thread that explains more about UPnP and how MC supports it:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25689.0
Supported UPnP Devices are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25839.0
The previous thread on the UPnP Server:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25798.0
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My DSM-320 works now! Nice job!!!!
I've been in computer software for 15 years in various engineering/PM roles and I have to say you guys are the most customer friendly software company I've had the pleasure of working with.
Keep up the great work,
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Thanks. We rely on the information we receive from people like you.
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I tried 1.0.10 with my Roku SoundBridge M500 last night, and it worked. However, there were a few issues.
1. Why show the ability to browse pictures? Is that a limitation of UpnP?
2. When using Windows Media Connect as the server, I can press play at any point and all songs matching the criteria will be played (Play Blues, for example). With MC, I can't hit play till I get all the way to the individual song.
3. WMA Lossless doesn't seem to work. I have to convert to MP3. It's possible that Windows Media Connect is doing some automatic conversion, but I certainly didn't have to setup anything. I looked around WMC, and I didn't even see an option for converting.
4. Is converting to WMA an option?
Thanks for a wonderful addition. I'm looking forward to MC11 getting out of Beta, so I can add this to my main system.
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The picture browsing is difficult: some devices want them and some don't, and I don't think this desire is communicated via the protocol in any way. I'll double check this, but probably I'll just make it an option - music only, or entire database.
The "play" feature - this is implemented on the Roku in a way I don't handle yet. It's on my list.
WMA lossless - known issue, on my list.
Converting to WMA is not currently an option, but could be if there's enough desire...
j
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I figured the protocol wasn't specific about the pictures. It isn't a big deal, especially if you add an option to not publish them.
The "play" and WMA Lossless features would be huge for me. I thought I read somewhere that the Roku was telling WMC to do some form of conversion, but there were no details. Like I said, WMC has no conversion option. I know the Roku is one of the few that support WMA Lossless, and this was a large part of why I bought it. I currently have about 250Gig of WMA Lossless files, and I didn't want to have to convert them or maintain two copies of everything.
I'm not too concerned about converting to WMA. I was just asking.
One more question - With this support multiple players? I only have one Roku now, but I'm planning on adding at least one more in my kid's playroom.
Thanks again!
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We just added a page that summarizes the extent of our support for UPnP devices right now.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25839.0
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I've just bought a Streamium 300 on the strength of these posts!
So far so good ... it works!
I'd vote (twice) for the ability to play an entire album, genre, etc with one click
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The "specify IP Address" option on the Server Options Page...
Is this intended for the target device's IP address?
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No - it is to specify the IP address for the server to listen on. Some servers have multiple ip addresses (like with an ethernet interface, a wireless interface and a bluetooth interface all on the same machine). The server needs to know which interface/IP address to listen on (not just to listen, but so that it can send the appropriate IP address to the player).
j
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Thanks John
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Omnifi DMS1 results
(these look familiar)
02/03/05 22:46:43 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.10 starting...
02/03/05 22:46:43 - Server running on address 192.168.1.100, port 3845
02/03/05 22:46:43 - Running
02/03/05 22:46:45 - Received request for device description
02/03/05 22:46:47 - Received request for device description
## No dice, DMS1 rebooted here
02/03/05 22:50:43 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::upnp:rootdevice
02/03/05 22:50:43 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::upnp:rootdevice
02/03/05 22:50:43 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29
02/03/05 22:50:43 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
02/03/05 22:50:44 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:Omnifi-DMS1-000000000000001460503562-1000000449-29::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
02/03/05 22:50:49 - Received request for device description
02/03/05 22:50:52 - Received request for device description
02/03/05 22:51:44 - Received request for device description
02/03/05 22:56:44 - Received request for device description
02/03/05 23:01:44 - Received request for device description
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Hi,
I'm still having timing issues with my Noxon. Simple View Schemes (like Grouping/Artist/Album) work, but when I'm accessing more complex schemes which take a little bit longer to show up (e.g. pick files from a smartlist which builds up from other smartlists), the Noxon jumps back to start.
I'll report this to Terratec, maybe they can help...
-Martin
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Hi,
when audio conversion is enabled, the Noxon does not show artist/album infos (only track name)... this is not the case when audio conversion is off.
-Martin
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Updating to the latest DSM-320 firmware broke MC. I now get the following messages that loop over and over again when I try and play any file.
02/11/05 15:59:51 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:51 - Sharing (without conversion): C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:51 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:51 - Sharing (without conversion): C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:51 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:52 - Sharing (without conversion): C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
02/11/05 15:59:52 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\Destiny's Child\Destiny Fulfilled\Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled - 01 - Lose My Breath.mp3
The UPNP server from DLINK works fine.
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I'm still not having any luck with my Linksys WMLS11B. I noticed this line in the 11.0.92 change log:
11. Fixed: UPnP Server supports better object types (required for LinkSys).
...but is that referring to Linksys routers?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I'm still having timing issues with my Noxon. Simple View Schemes (like Grouping/Artist/Album) work, but when I'm accessing more complex schemes which take a little bit longer to show up (e.g. pick files from a smartlist which builds up from other smartlists), the Noxon jumps back to start.
I'll report this to Terratec, maybe they can help...
-Martin
I just received my Noxon, unfortunately, it doesn't even work with simple view shemes (like the default ones of MC like arist/album) because I seem to have too many files (200GB). I get timeout errors all the time (Noxon returns to main screen). Scenario: I have 50 compositions by Beethoven, selecting Beethoven as artist, it returns to Main screen after a while.
I tried with Musicmatch and no problems at all with the same files, browsing is much faster than with MC. Getting longer delay time before timeout by Terratec is the wrong way IMO. Please, try to speed up your UPNP Server Plugin.
FAST Browsing with Noxon is impossible besides timeout errors, I guess any UPNP Device will profit from a faster browsing...
Thanks a lot for your efforts
Raist
P.S. I have noticed that it is impossible to remove the default view sheme groups like audio, image etc. from MC completely, although I deleted them, they appear on Noxon. Unchecking "Show in Theater View", they are still present on Noxon, any ideas why??
EDIT: One more issue: Unicode not working. albums with unicode letters cannot be accessed with Noxon like "Sonate für Klavier und Violoncello A-dur op. 69", UPNP Server log delievers "02/13/05 18:09:07 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio\Artist/Album\Beethoven, Ludwig van\Sonate fÃr Klavier und Violoncello A-dur op. 69
" Noxon jumps back to main screen. Please fix this as well
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UPnP Plug-In 1.0.10 appears to work very well with my hard wired Streamium SL400i. Great Job! :D
Only one MAJOR problem: I can't play my WAV files! :-[ When I try, the Streamium says it's an invalid format. If I set the server to encode to MP3, I can play my files just fine. Image files (JPG) work OK as well.
Is this expected or am I doing something wrong?
I bought ver 10 and I really like it. I'd love to use your server (looks like the best one out there by far), but since all my files are in WAV format, it's currently of limited use for me.
Thanks in advance for any help....
P.S. Duplicate post, thought this would be a more appropriate place for the question.
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I think the WAV file problem is fixed. There is a known issue that I fixed last week with this. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, I'll know for sure soon.
j
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I phoned today with Terratec, Company of Noxon:
1. They cannot use the alphanumeric remote control to jump to a specific letter in my long list due to too short RAM inside the Noxon.
2. They think they can increase the time before timeout, but I think this problem might be also related to the small RAM, perhaps it's not a kind of timeout, but too less RAM for browsing such a big DB.
Anyway, I'll return the Noxon to the store, cause it#s complete unusable for a big library.
Therefore, I have some questions to all UPNP users in here:
1. John, what about the unicode problem. Are you aware of it? Can you fix it?
2. Anyone here with a Netgear 101 or Roku M 500/1000/2000?
I read that with the Netgear and at least Firmware 1.36 you can use the alphanumeric remote control for jumping around in the list. The Rokus are supposed to jump to the next letter with the left/right control. Can anyone confirm that these functions work properly with Media Center 11? Especially for the Netgear, I read that it sometimes doesn't work.
I would be very happy about some recommendations, so that I don't buy a not properly working Hardware again.
THANKS A LOT
Raist
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Hi - I can't comment on the Netgear or the Roku but I have used a Philips Streamium SL300 and can report no problems other than being slightly slow for the full library (28000 tracks) compared go thhe Philips server withg the same number of tracks
It supports alphanumeric jumps and is very stable (touch wood!)
I haven't used MC for images or video as I used the Philips server for those
Good Luck
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Thanks for your really fast reply. Unfortunately, the SL300 doesn't have a display.
I want to use the Media receiver without a TV attached, so from the Streamium line only the SL400 or SL50i (that's new, isn't it?!?) is suitable. Since I need only music, the SL50i should be right. Is this a full streamium device or only "half" like the MCW-770??
So the SL300 doesn#t cover my needs, but anyway THANKS A LOT, without you I wouldn't have noticed that there is a new one, the SL50i, which joins my list of usable players.
I guess a lot of users don't want to spend so much money if they only want it for music-listening, video part is useless, but an inbuilt display quite important.
Since Noxon is bit buggy, there are three devices left: Philips SL50i, Netgear MP101 and the Roxu M-500.
I hope that we will be able to find out which of these three is the best in conjunction with MC, so all users can profit from this comparison.
Thanks again
Raist
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So the SL300 works with alphanumeric jumps?
Wierd, since I tried this with my SL400i and it doesn't work. These units are supposed to be based on the same hardware and firmware.
How about the shuffle function? - it doesn't work with my SL400i either.
If the MC11 UPnP server were to support these two functions along with WAV files I'd be one REAL happy camper....
As for the SL50i, I'd not recommend it. It's hardware base is apparently entirely different from the 300 and 400 and it doesn't seem to get any support like the 300 and 400. It's also not on the list of "supported" players.
Check out the Streamium forum for a lot more info: http://www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
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The unicode bug is on my list, yes.
j
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The unicode bug is on my list, yes.
j
Excuse my ignorance, but what's unicode? Is this the coding method used for entering text with a telephone-type keypad?
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Excuse my ignorance, but what's unicode? Is this the coding method used for entering text with a telephone-type keypad?
Unicode is a method for storing text data in two-byte pieces, one two-byte peice for each character. This allows having 32,768 different characters.
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So the SL300 works with alphanumeric jumps?
Wierd, since I tried this with my SL400i and it doesn't work. These units are supposed to be based on the same hardware and firmware.
How about the shuffle function? - it doesn't work with my SL400i either.
The alpha jumps works for me with the SL300 but not shuffle or repeat
I'm with you Myron - it'd be great if shuffle would work
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Just spent some more time trying out the UPnP server with my Philips SL400i and I'm liking it more and more. However, I found a few more items that don't work properly:
- Fast forward, rewind and pause don't work while playing a track (stop and play are OK)
- Playlists point to the wrong track on the Streamium, but work OK on the PC (that is if I ask for song A on the Streamium it plays song X, but MC plays song A on the PC).
Anyone else seen this behavior?
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This plug in seems really great, buti I can't use i don't have one the compatible product.
But i have a question mey be it can interest many people:
with this plugin don't you thing i can use a XBOX rather one of this product.
I know you can use UPnP with a XBOX.
Can you tell me if it's possible?
Thanks for your help
Benjamin
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I am playing with Buffalo Technology's new media receiver, the LinkTheater. This one upconverts to 1080i over component video and has 802.11b/g support built-in.
Good news:
The receiver recognized MC right off the bat and I was able to connect to it with no problems and see a root menu with Audio, Images, Video, Playlists (I am using default schemes, nothing special).
Bad news:
Browsing any of the folders I am not able to get past the 2nd level of any hierarchy. For example, with audio, I can see a genre list but then when I pick a genre and I should see artists, there are no artists to choose from (or months, if I am browsing images and choose a year). In all cases I just see a "back" link to the previous level.
I have tried with and without flat URL's.
Here is some relevant stuff from the log, browsing from the root to an audio genre node ("80's")
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02/26/05 17:19:09 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.10 starting...
02/26/05 17:19:09 - Server running on address 192.168.2.203, port 2953
02/26/05 17:19:09 - Running
02/26/05 17:19:09 - Received request for device description
02/26/05 17:19:10 - Received request for service description
02/26/05 17:19:10 - Received request for service description
02/26/05 17:19:10 - Received request for device description
02/26/05 17:19:16 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::upnp:rootdevice
02/26/05 17:19:16 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:myiBoxUPnP, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP
02/26/05 17:19:16 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1
02/26/05 17:19:19 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0
02/26/05 17:19:22 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0
02/26/05 17:19:23 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio
02/26/05 17:19:35 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio
02/26/05 17:19:38 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio80's
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(http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/clap.gif) Thank you, thank you, thank you! (http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/clap.gif)
I'd been bitching about this for a while, but missed the initial roll-out. Imagine my suprise when I discovered this thread buried and started reading. Well, today I also discovered that my local Circuit City had NetGear MP101's on sale for $79. I went down, snapped one of these up, updated the internal software, and now I'm enjoying 225+ GB of music in my garage shop! Did I remember to thank you? Makes the TiVo bug insignificant in comparison.
Anyways, I'm off to play with my new toy. I'm really happy now...
Marc
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Hi Y'all,
I've got a new improved version of the UPnP Server ready to go, but for logisitic reasons, it's going to be a week or so before I can actually release it. Just wanted to let y'all know I'm still working on it.
j
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One week of waiting for that new version??
What a pity!!
That means 7 days of waiting... = 168 hours = 10080 minutes = 604800 seconds I have to count before I can test this new version. :'(
Thanks
Raist :D
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Hi Y'all,
I've got a new improved version of the UPnP Server ready to go, but for logisitic reasons, it's going to be a week or so before I can actually release it. Just wanted to let y'all know I'm still working on it.
j
Thanks, I can hardly wait! ::)
Can you give us any clues as to what's changed in the latest version?
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A fix to the mime type problem, and a general upgrade of the transcoding feature.
j
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A fix to the mime type problem, and a general upgrade of the transcoding feature.
j
:( Aw Rats!
I was hoping for WAV file support, navigation and shuffle improvements with the Streamium Sl400i.....
"Just spent some more time trying out the UPnP server with my Philips SL400i and I'm liking it more and more. However, I found a few more items that don't work properly:
- Fast forward, rewind and pause don't work while playing a track (stop and play are OK)
- Playlists point to the wrong track on the Streamium, but work OK on the PC (that is if I ask for song A on the Streamium it plays song X, but MC plays song A on the PC)."
Thanks again anyway, and keep up the good work.
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WAV file support IS the mime type problem :)
As for the rest, I've still got most of a week to go...
j
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Please don't forget the unicode bug...
Thanks
Raist
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and my upnp server only makes cold coffee
I'd like hot cappucino! ;D
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WAV file support IS the mime type problem :)
As for the rest, I've still got most of a week to go...
j
Any thoughts on why the DSM-320 firmware update broke your UPnP plug-in? I had everything working perfectly for a week until the auto-update broke it!
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No idea, can you past the log here?
j
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Hi,
i'm having a problem when browsing on my Roku:
<- Roku Reports: Failed to load browse data > OK <
My library has 12k files, 1k Albums.
It depends on my view schemes if i'm able to browse or not.
It only works if there is few data to browse.
I'm using a wired LAN connection.
There's a thread about that problem:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=26117.0
Any idea about that?
Thanks for the great work.
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I'm not sure if this is an issue to do with the U PnP server, the roku or something else.
I have it working perfectly with my Roku by transcoding wma to mp3 (to reduce wireless bandwidth). however I also have DAB digital radio reciever, that i am using with software called DABBAR, to stream across the network. Dabbar provides me with a .m3u file that points to a stream on an http address that is my dabbar server. The problem is that the stream is mp2 not mp3.
When i try to use this in the roku, it seems like it is still mp2 that gets streamed (The Roku does not support mp2) its like the roku goes directly to the source of the stream, rather than jrmc, or that jrmc does not reencode the stream to mp3 from mp2.
On a seperate note, cpu usage when transcoding wma to mp3 is very high (80-90%), when compared to using slimserver (10%), doing the same thing.
Thx
RD
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RedDom,
The next version may fix this problem. Right now, there's a problem with Mime types that makes non-mp3 stuff not work.
j
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Chili-Jam - can you post the log? I'm not sure what's going on.
j
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Gday,
I just bought an HP IPAQ RX-3115, which includes the NEVO universal remote software, and some stuff called "Mobile Media" which is made by the same people (http://www.mynevo.com).
The CD which comes with the IPAQ has it's own media server software, but on a hunch, I decided to see if it could see MC running uPNP server wirelessly off my laptop. It does!
That's fantastic, I can strap my IPAQ to my hat while I'm mowing, and stream music from the house...
Only thing I noticed was that there seems to be a location to display cover art on the IPAQ, but it's blank (it displays a default image).
Does the uPNP server support cover art? Or, is there something "non-standard" about this aspect of the IPAQ software uPNP implementation?
Not a biggie...
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Lunchmeat - cool!
We don't support cover art yet, it's on my list, but it's pretty far down...
j
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Lunchmeat - cool!
We don't support cover art yet, it's on my list, but it's pretty far down...
j
Wow, support for cover art would be AWESOME!
Any idea as to what it might look like? I'm guessing it could be similar to "Library View", but I don't really know what's possible within the UPnP framework.
How about cover art support in custom views, which I haven't found to be implemented yet (or am I wrong)?
If it makes in difference I vote that this me moved up the list, immediately following basic navigation and playback "transport" functionality (FF, RW, pause, shuffle, etc).
Hoping the list starts shrinking real soon.....
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Is there a list of UPnP media products that work the "best" with MC11? I realize more and more bugs will get fixed but it seems like it would be great for us non-UPnP owners to be able to view a living list of the current most compatible products - I want to start adding some to my home.
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The NetGear MP101 I bought last weekend has been working *perfectly* ever since. I just wish the Media Server would run as a separate service so I don't have to worry about having MC up and running. I just went with A). One that was on "the list," and B). What was cheapest ($79).
Good luck. Mine rocks!
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No idea, can you past the log here?
j
03/05/05 09:59:19 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.10 starting...
03/05/05 09:59:19 - Running
03/05/05 09:59:19 - Server running on address 192.168.1.5, port 2835
03/05/05 10:01:45 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0
03/05/05 10:01:47 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio
03/05/05 10:01:51 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio\Recently Imported Albums
03/05/05 10:01:55 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio\Recently Imported Albums
03/05/05 10:02:03 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio\Recently Imported Albums\Radiohead
03/05/05 10:02:04 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren Audio\Recently Imported Albums\Radiohead\Pablo Honey
03/05/05 10:02:07 - Sharing (with conversion): C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\06 - Anyone_Can_Play_Guitar.mp3
03/05/05 10:02:08 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\06 - Anyone_Can_Play_Guitar.mp3
03/05/05 10:02:08 - Sharing (with conversion): C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\06 - Anyone_Can_Play_Guitar.mp3
03/05/05 10:02:09 - Received request for file: C:\Documents and Settings\twentwor\My Documents\My Music\06 - Anyone_Can_Play_Guitar.mp3
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The "Sharing..." and "Received..." messages keep repeating over and over again until I stop the DSM-320. The track starts to play initially and then immediately stops with the repeating messages described above. This happens with conversion turned on or off.
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FYI- Fry's (in Dallas-Fort Worth area anyway) is selling the Netgear 101s in this weekend's specials for $34 after rebate. Mine's working like a charm and at this price it's hard to pass up. In fact, the MC11 alpha-level upnp support is already good enough that I don't even use the Netgear Server anymore due to MC's way-superior organization.
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twentwortg,
I think this is the current issue of not being able to convert on the fly from uPNP server. If the files are already MP3s try switching off any conversion and see what happens...
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Hi, any new news on the next UPnP plugin release? I am hoping you can fix the problem I am having with the Roku Soundbridge. I have posted the issue in a separate thread here http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=26117.0
I do have an update actually. Before, if I tried to browse Artist on the Roku, it would issue a "Failed to load browse data > OK <"...
I got around this by creating lots of playlists and then browsing Playlists instead of Artists. If I could successfully get the Playlist browse data, then streaming actual files was not a problem. Well, now I can no longer browse playlists -- the only changes have been an update to MC 11.0.199 (registered), and I have added more songs to my library. 11.10.199 didn't break it specifically, b/c it worked with that upgrade for a while.
In MC UPnP, the logs say:
Browse BrowseDirectChildren Playlists
but the Roku croaks with "Failed to load browse data > OK <"
Not sure if this is helpful, but this log pattern is continually repeated even when the system isn't doing anything but the UPnP server is started:
03/06/05 01:06:30 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:526F6B75-536F-756E-6442-000D4B03671E::upnp:rootdevice
03/06/05 01:06:30 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:526F6B75-536F-756E-6442-000D4B03671E::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
03/06/05 01:06:30 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:526F6B75-536F-756E-6442-000D4B03671E::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
03/06/05 01:06:30 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:526F6B75-536F-756E-6442-000D4B03671E::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
03/06/05 01:06:30 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:526F6B75-536F-756E-6442-000D4B03671E::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
I would be happy to try to collect any other data or troubleshoot it, if more information is needed. Again, I posted a lot of info on that thread referenced above about my HW/SW platform, and error/debug messages.
Regards,
Davis
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Hi John,
sorry i don'T have the Roku ready at the moment but it's the same problem that davisford describes.
If you need more trace files i can provide them next week.
Thx
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FYI- Fry's (in Dallas-Fort Worth area anyway) is selling the Netgear 101s in this weekend's specials for $34 after rebate. Mine's working like a charm and at this price it's hard to pass up. In fact, the MC11 alpha-level upnp support is already good enough that I don't even use the Netgear Server anymore due to MC's way-superior organization.
Oh man... you're killing me! $34!!??!! Ugh.
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FYI- Fry's (in Dallas-Fort Worth area anyway) is selling the Netgear 101s in this weekend's specials for $34 after rebate. Mine's working like a charm and at this price it's hard to pass up. In fact, the MC11 alpha-level upnp support is already good enough that I don't even use the Netgear Server anymore due to MC's way-superior organization.
FYI - Fry's in Renton is selling the Netgear 101's for $149 - no rebate. Bummer - I could have used a second one.
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twentwortg,
I think this is the current issue of not being able to convert on the fly from uPNP server. If the files are already MP3s try switching off any conversion and see what happens...
I've tried every current combination of UPNP settings and nothing works. It doesn't appear to have anything to do w/ conversion.
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Anyone tried the Netgear MP115 yet? I'm thinking of buying it or the Buffalo Tech LinkTheater unit for MC11 use. I don't need video, but WMA audio is important (non DRM). I know the LinkTheater isn't there yet, but it will come eventually.
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The "Sharing..." and "Received..." messages keep repeating over and over again until I stop the DSM-320. The track starts to play initially and then immediately stops with the repeating messages described above. This happens with conversion turned on or off.
Same exact issue is also happening with me, following the DSM-320's auto-update to firmware 1.05.
Same log pattern ...
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Encoding conversion problems should be fixed in the latest build.
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Re: UPNP 1.0.11: Does not fix DSM-320
« Reply #3 on: Today at 06:20:36 PM »
Quote from: Myron on Today at 06:15:04 PM
How about the SL400i?
Please try the latest build.
Thanks, you guys are really trying hard to keep us happy!
Just tried the .213 build.
After installing on top of .211 the UPnP server did not even show up in the tree.
Uninstalling and re-installing .213 brought the UPnP server back.
Unfortunately, functionality is the same as with the .211 build: WAV files cannot be played.
Does the WAV fromat work with any other players that have been tested?
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Can you try turning on conversion to MP3? You could use a high bitrate.
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Hello !
My config :
MC 11 build 213 on Pentium 4 2.4GHz
UPnP device : Philips SL300 I
Audio .mp3 are correctly recognized and played on SL300I
Pictures .jpeg are correctly recognized and played
but
Video .mpg , .avi , .divx are ignored "unsupported file format"
The same .mpg .avi .divx are perfectly played by SL300I when I use Philips Media Manager as UPnP server on the same PC.I
Any clue about it ?
Pegase64
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Pictures and video may not work yet with any UPnP device. We're still working on it.
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Can you try turning on conversion to MP3? You could use a high bitrate.
Jim,
Thanks for the quick response.
MP3 conversion works OK, but I'm really looking to have full resolution audio capability ( all my files are in WAV format).
While the server has enough basic functionality now to make it useable, there are a few functions missing.
1) Full format support - This is a "must have"
2) Full transport controls (fast forward, rewind, pause) - This is a "must have"
2) Text based search - This is a "should have"
Once these functions are available, cover art support would be the real icing on the cake that would put J River WAY ahead of anything else out there.
I fully realize that the product is still under development, so I don't want to come accross as a whiner, just trying to give you feedback on what I see. That said, it is a bit frustrating to read that something's been fixed, in this case the mime type bug, only to find that it doesn't work. It would be great to hear if WAV files work with other players or not instead of getting a suggestion to use another format. I did report that conversion to MP3 did work in my original post on the .211 release.
So thanks again for all your efforts in getting MC11 and UPnP out there. Having seen the great potential of your product, I'm really excited about having a fully functional version released. I'd really like to be able to drop the lame manager that came with my Philips Streamium.
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I posted on a separate thread, but JimH (I think) suggest I post it here instead.
In the meantime, I've tested it with the .213 release of MC11 to make sure it wasn't fixed in that version, but it doesn't appear to have been so...
If I add an internet radio station (i.e. MP3 stream) to a playlist and then try accessing that from my MP101, the MP101 says it's currently unavailable.
The streams do work otherwise (using the standard Netgear Server for instance) so I presume that the UPnP plugin is somehow not sending the information about the stream properly.
I wouldn't be surprised by that, since streams are obviously a special case, but do you know if this is just an MP101-specific issue or is it down to the way the UPnP plugin works at the moment?
Has anyone got streams working with other Media Receivers?
Thanks
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As of build 11.0.216 I can play single files at a time on my DSM-320 with firmware 1.05, but it hangs at the end of the song (it does not move to the next song).
Strangely if I stop playing and then choose another song it will play it.
I am transcoding from WMA lossless to MP3 extreme if that matters.
Before I take up any of John's time, if someone could confirm that they have a DSM-320 1.05 configuration working (for more than one song) with the latest MC build, I would like to hear your configuration and I'll experiment with settings.
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Hope this is the right place for this post.
My 2 MP101's are working great with build 218 !
Works fine that is, with MC itself. The media server however gives a server not found message on the client side.
Have I read things right in assuming the media server is just a few build behind and should be working soon ?
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MC's UPnP Server is part of Media Server now. When you get the error, what are you running and exactly what happens?
Are you also running MC10? If so, turn off its Media Server.
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With build 218, I was not able to connect to the server with my Roku.
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UPnP client : Philips Streamium SL300 I
MC 11 beta build 218
UPnP server 1.0.12
No alphanumeric jumps (only jump to numeric place in the present list)
Videos (.mpg, .divx) are unplayable "unrecognized format"
Any hope to have a solution ? (For the time being, I must use TwonkyVision as server)
Friendly,
Pegase64
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MC's UPnP Server is part of Media Server now. When you get the error, what are you running and exactly what happens?
Are you also running MC10? If so, turn off its Media Server.
Not running MC 10.
If I run MC11 and start the UPnP Server I can connect from my MP101 clients.
If I Stop the UPnP Server, exit MC11 and just run the Media Server then my MP101 clients report "No Server Found"
MC Details: -
Media Center Registered 11.0.218 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\
Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 3199 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 733 MB
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2573 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2578 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping / Drive E: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S Mode:Normal Type:Auto Speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: Yes / Play sound after ripping: No
Burning / Drive E: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S Addr: 1:0:0 Speed:40 MaxSpeed:40 BurnProof:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None
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Don't stop the UPnP Server
j
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[myron's post from the 219 bug thread]
Just tried the UPnP server of the .219 release with my ethernet connected Philips SL400i and it has at least the following problems:
While navigating throught the folder hierarchy it seems to hang when I get to the level that contains music tracks. The SL400i reports that it keeps searching. Here's the server log, it goes much further, but looks the same after the point I captured:
03/19/05 12:14:09 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.13 starting...
03/19/05 12:14:10 - Server running on address 192.168.2.90, port 1073
03/19/05 12:14:10 - Running
03/19/05 12:14:14 - Received request for device description
03/19/05 12:14:14 - Received request for service description
03/19/05 12:14:14 - Received request for service description
03/19/05 12:14:15 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0
03/19/05 12:14:16 - Received GENA message
03/19/05 12:14:16 - GENA Subscribe message
03/19/05 12:14:41 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 1
03/19/05 12:14:43 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0
03/19/05 12:14:44 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 1
03/19/05 12:14:45 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 5
03/19/05 12:14:45 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 1
03/19/05 12:14:47 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 8
03/19/05 12:14:48 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 8
03/19/05 12:14:50 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 35
03/19/05 12:14:50 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 8
03/19/05 12:14:55 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 42
03/19/05 12:14:56 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:00 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:00 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:01 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:04 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:04 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:05 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:05 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:08 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:09 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:09 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:10 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:14 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:17 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:17 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:18 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:18 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:21 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:22 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:22 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:23 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:26 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:26 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:26 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:27 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:30 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:30 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:31 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:31 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:35 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:35 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:36 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:36 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:39 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:40 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:40 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 65
03/19/05 12:15:41 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 42
Attempting to navigate back up the hierarchy seems to work, but when I tried going back down another path, MC crashed with a "Media Core has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." error dialog box.
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Don't stop the UPnP Server
j
Thanks, I didn't quite understand how it all works.
I now have the media server working at startup under it's own login.
My next question is about the streaming media. I have located some stations that broadcast in wma and MP3 and have added them to a playlist.
I can listed fine in MC 11 but when I try from the MP101 I can see the playlist and select the items but only get an "Item not Available" message.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Stephen
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That's what I posted about further up in this thread :-)
Still no response yet though... :'(
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Hi Y'all,
Haven't had a chance to look at radio stations. Make sure that they are of type audio, and transcode them to mp3.
j
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Hi John :-)
I wasn't sure whether it was going to transcode them - is that what you'd expect?
I figured there were two options:
1. MC would just tell the client that there's a stream to connect to, and it's somewhere other than the PC that MC is running on - i.e. go direct to the radio station
2. MC would tell the client to connect to a stream that it relays, and that would either be in its native format or a format that MC then transcoded.
If it were option 2, that would make a LOT of MP101 users REALLY happy, because they're always moaning about only being able to access MP3 streams (personally, I'm quite happy only ever listening to MP3 streams, but on the other hand I might listen to others if I could... :-)
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Hi Rob,
MC should read the stream and send it to the client, so transcoding should work.
j
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Is it necessary to transcode streams that are already MP3 ?
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No it is not. And "real soon now"(tm) this should be handled better, with more options on choosing when to transcode.
j
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Sounds great :-)
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Including shoutcast stations ?
Just sending in my wishlist while things are still in development.
Thanks,
Stephen