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Title: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: evanr76 on March 06, 2005, 08:50:04 pm

In some unscientific sense, you can look at a song's inability to be compressed as proportional to its information complexity, or similarity to noise depending on your perspective (and the compression algorithm).

Right now in my library the least compressible song is (surprisingly) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler, off of an 80's compilation CD.  1176kbps (WMA lossless).

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: UnknownID on March 06, 2005, 09:20:44 pm

Mine is "Of Wolf And Man" by Metallica on the "S&M" Album: APE 1100kbps

Edit: On a different note, my most compressed song is "Earth Abides" by Philip Aaberg on the "A Winter's Solstice III" Album: APE 367

UnknownID

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: Krazykanuck on March 06, 2005, 09:59:53 pm

My highest is "Party Hard" by Andrew W.K.  APE 1149
My lowest is "Ave Maria" by Mario Lanza APE 304

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: GHammer on March 06, 2005, 11:28:00 pm

Gosh, I'm not even in the running.
My highest is 1084 APE.

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: pocket on March 07, 2005, 06:50:48 am

1211 - Give it Away - Red Hot Chili Peppers - FLAC

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: hit_ny on March 07, 2005, 08:17:37 am

Quote from: evanr76 on March 06, 2005, 08:50:04 pm

In some unscientific sense, you can look at a song's inability to be compressed as proportional to its information complexity, or similarity to noise depending on your perspective (and the compression algorithm).

Right now in my library the least compressible song is (surprisingly) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler, off of an 80's compilation CD.  1176kbps (WMA lossless).

What would it be like with APE or FLAC (for the same track) ?

Its interesting you mention noise, i have a feeling that white noise (rainfall, waves breaking on the shore, water flowing) could be quite difficult to compress.

Will have to defer to Matt on this topic for a more authoritative opinion.

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: iCamp on March 08, 2005, 08:20:35 am

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1211 - Give it Away - Red Hot Chili Peppers - FLAC

Interesting.  That same song is at 1098 in my library (FLAC as well).  I guess the difference is the encoding rate.  Mine is encoded at the max: 8.

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: GHammer on March 08, 2005, 09:33:04 am

The Red Hot Chili Peppers - 02 - Give It Away
From a rip to wav format then encode with all 3 encoders:

APE (2000 or Normal)- 1187  (40.3 Mb)

FLAC (-5)- 1211  (41.0 Mb)

WMA (9.1 Pro VBR Q100 lossless)- 1205  (40.6 Mb)

During playback, I see that the bitrate display changes dynamically with the APE sometimes to a high of 1256. It remains static with the others.

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 08, 2005, 02:36:43 pm

 :o
Dagnamit! Beaten again!
I'm a lowly 333/1113!

Title: Re: OT: Highest bitrate lossless compressed song?
Post by: LonWar on March 08, 2005, 05:41:04 pm

Kiss from the album Psycho-Circus


I Pledge Allegiance To The State Of Rock And Roll


1161 ape