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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: EpF on March 27, 2005, 05:53:50 am

Title: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: EpF on March 27, 2005, 05:53:50 am
Just tried to play VOB files in MC 11 for the first time, and here are some problems I had:

- VOB files are not in the list of files for association with MC
- No matter which file I chose, MC only played one 7-minute trailer
- The filename (path) field has \\ at the end of it for all the VOB files (but not any of the other files in the VIDEO_TS folder)
- The filename (name) field for all the VOB files has ;1 tacked on to the end
- I tried to rename both the path and name fields, but they just revert back to their \\ and ;1 state
- The IFO files come up as filetype 'DVD', and the path is 'unnamed disc'

I don't know anything about these files, so some of those may not be real problems (are IFO files like APLs?), but in the end I couldn't watch the film with MC, and I want to be able to - can anyone help/explain?

 ?
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: DWAnderson on March 27, 2005, 11:52:06 am
The support for DVD playback generally is not really ready for prime time and it's worse for VOB files.

See my post in this thread on the latest beta: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=26675.0
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: BigAl on March 27, 2005, 06:10:39 pm
Me too.  I've only just started looking into ripping DVDs and playing using MC.  The concept is great and once i'm playing a VOB file (via File->Open Media File) the playback controls/AV quality are fantastic.  No probs with 5.1 sound at all.

What I can't do is:

- Tag properly
- Get Audio Decoder properties to "stick" (DVD Options->Properties)
    - need "enable S/PDIF" to stay on. reverts every time i stop playing
- an option to "start from the beginning" as posted elsewhere

Anyone else had success ripping DVDs and playing using MC?  Is enhancing this on the JRiver radar??

Thx, Al.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: Krazykanuck on March 27, 2005, 06:59:58 pm
Like I can do with Nero showtime I would like to be able to just point to a directory and have it play without having to select a particular file.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: NickM on March 27, 2005, 08:37:34 pm
As HDD sizes increase, more of us are going to start ripping DVD films - not just music.  I use Dr. Divx and the only let down is loss of chapters, although the support team swear its coming soon.

What I did notice is that the program has a basic but functional API...
How about MC ripping DVD's?   

nick
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: JohnT on March 29, 2005, 09:28:07 am
I agree we need to make the experience of playing VOB's from hard disk more user friendly (I do it myself so I'm motivated  ;D). Also need to import DVD/VOB content nicely. It's on my list but feel free to keep raising the issue to keep it off the back burner.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: DWAnderson on March 29, 2005, 10:16:44 am
Glad to know that improving this area is on your list. I'll continue to raise the issues in the thread for each new build. I would hope others would do the same.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: ivb on May 07, 2005, 12:34:39 pm
Wondering what the latest is on MC11 & IFO/VOB files. Tried searching, this seems to be the newest thread. Didn't notice anything in the feature lists either, which leads me to believe that MC11 cannot yet handle IFO/VOB files, even via TheaterTek or other external player.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: DWAnderson on May 10, 2005, 12:04:38 pm
I was wondering the same thing. Are these supposed to be supported or not? I thought they were, so I reported problems as bugs, but maybe they aren't.

What's the story?
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: DWAnderson on May 12, 2005, 10:06:17 pm
I was wondering the same thing. Are these supposed to be supported or not? I thought they were, so I reported problems as bugs, but maybe they aren't.

What's the story?

J River, can you answer this question?
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: msnell on May 20, 2005, 07:11:29 pm
I'm glad to hear some improvements to the MC 11 DVD experience are being considered. It would make a great DVD player if it were easier to import VOBs from the hard drive - or even better if it could read iso files. Take this one off the back burner and put it on the front!!!
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: raym on May 20, 2005, 07:42:31 pm
This is how I do it and have never had any issues...

1. Rip the whole disk (DVD Decrypter!!). If you just want the main movie, re-author it to re-build related BUPs and IFOs (DVD Shrink or Nero).
2. Import the first vob in the main series of vobs (eg VTS_01_1.vob) - yes, importing is a bit hit-and-miss but if you *drag* this file into MC from the file system it always works.
3. Tag it, rename it and add cover art.
4. Play!

I've built a whole HD based dvd library with MC like this.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: DWAnderson on May 21, 2005, 11:27:15 pm
This is how I do it and have never had any issues...

1. Rip the whole disk (DVD Decrypter!!). If you just want the main movie, re-author it to re-build related BUPs and IFOs (DVD Shrink or Nero).
2. Import the first vob in the main series of vobs (eg VTS_01_1.vob) - yes, importing is a bit hit-and-miss but if you *drag* this file into MC from the file system it always works.
3. Tag it, rename it and add cover art.
4. Play!

I've built a whole HD based dvd library with MC like this.

Hope this helps.

Does that work for DVD files on a network share?
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: raym on May 22, 2005, 02:55:25 am
Does that work for DVD files on a network share?

Yes. This is the only way I distribute my media to other PC's in the house.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: raym on May 22, 2005, 03:07:46 am

What I can't do is:

- Get Audio Decoder properties to "stick" (DVD Options->Properties)
    - need "enable S/PDIF" to stay on. reverts every time i stop playing

Thx, Al.

I had this problem too when I was using WinDVD audio codecs. I assume this is what's happening in your case too?? Try the PowerDVD audio codec or AC3Filter instead. You then won't have to keep re-checking the S/PDIF option. I personally like the PowerDVD codec the best as this also does DTS passthru.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: ivb on May 23, 2005, 01:14:05 am
This is how I do it and have never had any issues...

1. Rip the whole disk (DVD Decrypter!!). If you just want the main movie, re-author it to re-build related BUPs and IFOs (DVD Shrink or Nero).
2. Import the first vob in the main series of vobs (eg VTS_01_1.vob) - yes, importing is a bit hit-and-miss but if you *drag* this file into MC from the file system it always works.
3. Tag it, rename it and add cover art.
4. Play!

I've built a whole HD based dvd library with MC like this.

Hope this helps.

Any way to kick off TheaterTek?

I have >100 DVDs ripped, and I'm not about to go through this much effort. I need a unified front-end for all my a/v; can't believe there's nothing yet than can handle TV, DVDs, mp3s, ... in a clean fashion.
Title: Re: MC11 and VOB Files...
Post by: StarBand Guy on June 04, 2005, 11:12:47 am
I previously used RAYM's procedure for playing these files.  I hadn't messed with it much for several months.  With the latest MC11 (283, I think), I just get a black screen and no playback.  Occasionally, the program will crash or hang.