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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: gpvillamil on April 06, 2005, 04:13:41 am

Title: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 06, 2005, 04:13:41 am

I'm on the .230 build, and notice that MC11 is building all thumbnails everytime I do an Import Media.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: Matt on April 06, 2005, 09:01:16 am

It's actually just checking to see if it needs to build.  It should only take a few seconds.

We changed the language in the latest build.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: JimH on April 06, 2005, 09:10:57 am

You should update from 230.  It has a memory leak.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 06, 2005, 10:47:15 am

Quote from: Matt on April 06, 2005, 09:01:16 am

It's actually just checking to see if it needs to build.  It should only take a few seconds.

We changed the language in the latest build.

20 minutes for 56,000 files?

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 06, 2005, 10:49:42 am

I'm on build .232 now, the wording is "updating thumbnails", it is taking considerably more than a few seconds...

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: paulr on April 06, 2005, 02:18:48 pm

I saw this as well, but only the first time after I installed the latest version.  It took 3:15 to "Update thumbnails" for 12k files.  I don't see this step on subsequent imports.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 06, 2005, 06:33:44 pm

Still doing it. I did an Import Media, it said "updating thumbnails" for 56,000 files, took about 30 minutes.

Quit MC11.

Restarted it. Did an Import Media again, same behaviour.

Media Center Registered 11.0.232 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 3168 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 554 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2573 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2578 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0002) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0002)

Ripping /   Drive D:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive E:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  Drive D: PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-716A     Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:16  MaxSpeed:48  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: JONCAT on April 07, 2005, 10:43:57 am

232 working okay for me ...it's really fast.

JC

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 07, 2005, 07:41:47 pm

I see this has been fixed in .233 - thanks.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 16, 2005, 09:16:53 am

Nope, still doing it in build .241. Rebuilding 56,000 thumbnails takes about 10-15 minutes.

It would be nice if this were fixed. Apart from this, Import Media is pretty quick.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: graham131 on April 18, 2005, 07:41:33 am

Hi there this is really slow for me as well.  Also the option for "update" library has gone.  Is this intentional? As this was handy to just remove links to files that i have moved (purposely)

Cheers

Graham

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 21, 2005, 05:34:01 pm

In build .245, still updating all thumbnails, everytime, on Import Media. Takes about 20 minutes for 56,000 files. It is the most time-consuming part of an Import operation.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 22, 2005, 02:00:46 am

And with .246. It seems like the first time after installing a new build, it updates all thumbnails.

The next time I start the program after this, it takes about 5 minutes. After that all is normal.

Logging is off.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: JimH on April 22, 2005, 07:17:13 am

I just tested with MC11.0.246.  With 10,500 images, import of image files took about 10 seconds.  It said "updating thumbnails" for a second or two.

What's different?  A network drive?

You don't have MC set to erase thumbnails on exit, do you?

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: Alex B on April 22, 2005, 08:13:06 am

When I last tried this loading a different local library made all previous thumbnails unsynchronized, thus redundant:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=26959.msg187253#msg187253

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: Alex B on April 22, 2005, 09:12:35 am

I tried it quickly again. It seems to happen only when the thumbnail exit behaviour "Erase orphans" is enabled when loading libraries.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: glynor on April 22, 2005, 09:27:29 am

I use MC importing from a network drive (not 50k files but about 17k) and while the thumbnail build process does take longer than importing from a local drive, it's certainly not 15-20 minutes (I'd say 60-120 seconds and the "scan" of the existing files in the database takes signifigantly longer than it).

Of course, I have a reliable switched Gigabit network so...

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: Matt on April 22, 2005, 10:36:27 am

There was a bug where multiple libraries could get created with the same "unique" key.  This key was used to pick a thumbnail folder.  It caused multiple libraries to try to share the same folder.

The next build will create a new key for each database to fix this.

If you see this problem, you'll need to load each database with write access using MC 11.0.247 or newer. (not when connected to Media Server) 

You may also want to erase your thumbnails in Options > Tree & View > Thumbnails

Thanks everyone.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 24, 2005, 10:03:21 am

Build .247, 29:15 to import 30 files. Once again 25 minutes spent updating thumbnails for 56,000 files.

Logging is off.

Thumbnails on exit behavior is set to "leave".

Only one library in use (or exists)

3.2Ghz Pentium 4
1GB RAM
Win SP XP2

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: JimH on April 24, 2005, 10:14:03 am

gpvillamil,
Did you try Matt's direction in the message above?

You've got something "special" going on.  I don't think anyone else is seeing exactly what you are.

If I were in your shoes, I'd start over with a new library.

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: gpvillamil on April 24, 2005, 05:18:32 pm

Quote from: JimH on April 24, 2005, 10:14:03 am

gpvillamil,
If I were in your shoes, I'd start over with a new library.

OK, will do, any advice on moving view schemes & smartlists to a new library?

Title: Re: MC11 rebuilds thumbnails on Import, every time
Post by: JimH on April 24, 2005, 08:08:11 pm

How about just setting up a new library using File/Library/Library Manager, just to test.