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More => Old Versions => Media Center 11 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: glynor on January 18, 2006, 10:13:26 pm
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(http://www.geocities.com/ri0n/mc/annoying_popup.jpg)
This isn't useful to me and is quite distracting that it happens when I only mouse over the top level "link". Is there any way to either (1) make this popup show in a heirarchal view so it isn't so distracting or (2) make it only appear when I click on the link rather than mouseover?
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I think we have a new record holder for number of view schemes. It looks like nesting may be in order if there are more than a certain number of view schemes.
By the way, you can make "Mixes" (or any playlist group) a pane in a view scheme. It might make it so you need less view schemes.
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I think we have a new record holder for number of view schemes. It looks like nesting may be in order if there are more than a certain number of view schemes.
By the way, you can make "Mixes" (or any playlist group) a pane in a view scheme. It might make it so you need less view schemes.
Hu?
Directions, please, kind Sir?
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I actually found it better when the menu didn't popup. It's kind of obtrusive, though I don't have a fraction of views like glynor.
In my opinion, menus should never popup without you clicking on them, so it would be better if one marked the menu more clearly when hovering...
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Is there any way to either (1) make this popup show in a heirarchal view so it isn't so distracting or (2) make it only appear when I click on the link rather than mouseover?
I'm right there with you, glynor; I was going to start this thread myself - here's what it looks like on my machine!:
(http://www.alluvialplains.com/Images/MC/viewschemes.jpg)
Hu?
Directions, please, kind Sir?
What Matt means is that you can make a viewscheme where the first View Item is 'Playlist' under 'Standard Items' in the Viewscheme dialogue. MC will ask you for the Playlist Group, and you could specify the root of your 'Mixes' playlists.
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How long does the mouseover take to activate the menu? For me you have to hold it a bit or are you all objecting to the blockage that occurs to the rest of your library (although if you purposely have the menu open you probably know where your headed).
I think the mouseover is intuitive, maybe just more of a delay is needed. I have never had a problem with accidental triggering of the menu. When it does it dissappears REALLY fast. I am not trying to belay your experience but it has honestly been working great for me; very non-intrusive.
Dr. C
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I am not trying to belay your experience but it has honestly been working great for me; very non-intrusive.
Fair enough! It has only been a hindrance to me so far - the only times I've used it were accidental! That said, if it were constructed as a tree, I would definitely use it, because I often have so many panes in the viewscheme that I need to hide the tree to be able to read the content..
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I've definitely "accidentally" used it before. A couple of things I figured I'd add...
I think we have a new record holder for number of view schemes. It looks like nesting may be in order if there are more than a certain number of view schemes.
By the way, you can make "Mixes" (or any playlist group) a pane in a view scheme. It might make it so you need less view schemes.
Nesting would be greatly appreciated. Actually, the one I captured in my screenie is the Audio heirarchy. My Images one is quite a bit larger. As far as the mixes, I don't use Playlists (Smart or Otherwise) for those. They're actually just regular view schemes with a saved search. Works just like a Smart Playlist but also "populates the tree" so I can use it that way too.
In my opinion, menus should never popup without you clicking on them, so it would be better if one marked the menu more clearly when hovering...
I have to agree here. It's just a philosophical UI design thing.
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The point was (for pop up) was it was deemed a pain to have to click twice; apparently for some it is more of a pain for it to pop-up and get in the way. For me, it seems intuitive because a user wants to open a menu and has navigated the mouse to it's location...a mouse-click is overkill (except when the trigger lies in the path of workflow i.e. your problem with it).
Optimally, it should be configurable...I love it and it never gets in the way. Maybe it "sticks" longer when you have a ton of schemes; if I mouseover it, first of all it takes more than just passing over it quickly to set it off, and second it flashes off as soon as I pass it, but again, it never goes off accidentlly.
Maybe if others could chime it we'd get a better idea of what the general consensus is...
Dr. C
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It's just a philosophical UI design thing.
Although I'd prefer to have to click for a menu, I think that hover-activation is fine once there is a visual cue to differentiate from click-activation. At the moment the same symbol (the triangle) is used to indicate 3 different behaviours:
1) click to collapse a branch in the tree
2) click for drop-down in the search bar and the Playing Now upper pane navigation
3) for hover-activation in the library browser
If these were different, it would help visually. It wouldn't solve the problem of the massive menu-tile I get when I hover over the viewschemes, though that wouldn't be too bad if it cut off long paths at about 60 characters or so; still, the best would be a hierarchical system. ;D
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Well... Now that they've changed it to have them grouped it won't bother me as much and I'm pleased.
I do agree generally with EpF that a visual cue would help, but as I said before, it's just not the way I prefer to have the UI operate. For example, I despise the "feature" in windows that lets you activate icons with a single click. I don't hate it that others might like this feature, I'm just glad you can turn it off.
I'm also a bit confused over the functionality of this feature. Why is it needed? Doesn't the tree provide these same choices? Is this so that those users who prefer to keep the tree hidden at all times can still quickly access their View Schemes? I just missed the reasoning behind it I guess.... My own fault for not paying attention. ;D
Either way, as I said, I'm satisfied with the new solution.
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I would like to turn mouse over popups completly off. Can that be done?
If a solution appeared in this thread i completly missed it
Bill..
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Tools - Options - Tree and View - Tree - Uncheck Show tooltips.
That should get rid of them.... (I think it gets rid of all of them)
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Thank you and this sounds like it should work. However, I cannot find "Tree and View". I've right clicked, left clicked, clicked while stand on left foot, snapped my fingers and cussed at it.
Another pointer please - and thanks for the help.
Bill..
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it's in MC's options, right down there at the bottom.
If you happen to be using an outdated set of custom icons, you might not see the entry, but it is still there..
you just gotta know where to click ;)
(http://www.theganghut.co.uk/pics/ia/treeandview.jpg)
I don't think these settings will have any effect over the 'popups' described at the top of this thread though. Those are menus, and these settings refer to 'tooltip' behaviour. Still, if that's what you're after, now you know where to find 'em :)
ps. "good morning" ijag. feels like our paths haven't crossed for quite some time :)
I trust you are keeping well?
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:D ;D :)
ThANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I woulda never thunk to look for an invisable icon, but there it is!
Got rid of those pesky things to.
So, I have an "old" icon set. Where do I get a new set por favor???
A very grateful Bill..
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So, I have an "old" icon set. Where do I get a new set por favor???
Check the "[MC program path]\Data\Custom Art" folder. If there is a file named Options.png delete or hide it. After that MC uses the correct file from the "[MC program path]\Data\Default Art" folder.