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Title: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 02:59:17 pm
I'm just did the following[/u]:


Took a breath and drag-shaked MC and I got this (http://www.geocities.com/t_elwakeel/MC/TheMess.JPG)[/u]

Media Center Registered 11.1.112 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2775 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 522 MB, Free - 156 MB

Internet Explorer: 7.0.5296.0 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82.2900 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.0.2900 / Shell32.dll: 6.0.2900 / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   No CD drives found.
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /
Title: Re: That was my last hope!
Post by: JimH on February 06, 2006, 03:11:48 pm
His screen breaks up if he drags MC around.

It's a system related problem.  Disable all third party plug-ins.  Stop all other running software -- firewall, spam blockers, popup blockers, etc.

Try another video card (borrow one if necessary). 

You reported this in the past, but I don't believe it's an MC problem.
Title: Re: That was my last hope!
Post by: marko on February 06, 2006, 03:23:56 pm
I just gave mine a serious shake, and while there's a small ammount of corruption during the shaking, it settles down when the shaking stops.

I have to say, it's the first time I've ever actually done this. How are things if you just reposition the window without shaking it around?
Title: Re: That was my last hope!
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 03:28:00 pm
Quote from: JimH on February 06, 2006, 03:11:48 pm
His screen breaks up if he drags MC around.

It's a system related problem.  Disable all third party plug-ins.  Stop all other running software -- firewall, spam blockers, popup blockers, etc.

Try another video card (borrow one if necessary). 

You reported this in the past, but I don't believe it's an MC problem.

Tried every thing you mentioned jim,
in fact the previous time i reported this issue was on another video card... (nVIDIA)
and now iam on a new ATI Radeon...!

I think this issue is related to MC in a spcefic way (As i guess) which is something related here in my system hardware/software, if exist on another person's machine will get the same issue..
Title: Re: That was my last hope!
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 03:29:11 pm
Quote from: marko on February 06, 2006, 03:23:56 pm
I just gave mine a serious shake, and while there's a small ammount of corruption during the shaking, it settles down when the shaking stops.

I have to say, it's the first time I've ever actually done this. How are things if you just reposition the window without shaking it around?
Repositioning marko, ie: if iam sliding MC to put it in another area, gives some boarders trails
Title: Re: That was my last hope!
Post by: tcman41 on February 06, 2006, 03:33:41 pm
I just tried the shake with mc 11.1.111 on my work computer and sure enough, i get border trails when i drag mc11 across my computer screen.

Its not really harming anything and i can't say that i have ever really tried to drag mc11 around before on my screen and probably won't in the future, but the effect is pretty funky,  ;D

TC
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: JimH on February 06, 2006, 03:37:02 pm
But when you stop dragging, the screen paints correctly, right?
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Mr ChriZ on February 06, 2006, 03:39:57 pm
In your screenshot it looks like your running CursorXP or something similar?
Unless you've just got a cool cursor pack from somewhere...
Otherwise Have you tried turning that off?  I used to get problems with Trillian and Cursor XP.
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 04:24:17 pm
Quote from: JimH on February 06, 2006, 03:37:02 pm
But when you stop dragging, the screen paints correctly, right?
Yep, but takes a up to a sec.. for the whole screen to redraw correctly

Quote from: Mr ChriZ on February 06, 2006, 03:39:57 pm
In your screenshot it looks like your running CursorXP or something similar?
Unless you've just got a cool cursor pack from somewhere...
Otherwise Have you tried turning that off?  I used to get problems with Trillian and Cursor XP.
Trust me, tried everything...
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Matt on February 06, 2006, 04:27:51 pm
It's Windows and the drivers job to handle window movement.  MC may get asked to paint, but doesn't do anything else during this time.

If everything draws properly once you stop, I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 04:45:42 pm
Quote from: Matt on February 06, 2006, 04:27:51 pm
It's Windows and the drivers job to handle window movement.  MC may get asked to paint, but doesn't do anything else during this time.

If everything draws properly once you stop, I wouldn't worry about it.
sure it doesn't...

but this is the only software on my PC that makes this issue !
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 06, 2006, 08:29:25 pm
Quote from: Matt on February 06, 2006, 04:27:51 pm
If everything draws properly once you stop, I wouldn't worry about it.

I am totally agree with you, but due to this display problem, MC dragging performs very slowly with certain lags/hangs while its in move

edit: also this issue happens while resizing MC window
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Matt on February 06, 2006, 09:36:04 pm
This is an aside, but the threaded spectrum analyzer was slowing sizing down when it was on.  This slowdown was completely removed in build 114, so you may want to try it.
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: hit_ny on February 07, 2006, 12:50:49 am
Right Click (anywhere in desktop)->Properties->Appearance->Effects->Show window contents while dragging (uncheck)

Have done this since 98, CPU friendly, less disorienting :)

You must have a big screen, with 1024 x 768 res, MC is either maximised or minimised for me.
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 07, 2006, 01:30:43 am
Quote from: Matt on February 06, 2006, 09:36:04 pm
This is an aside, but the threaded spectrum analyzer was slowing sizing down when it was on.  This slowdown was completely removed in build 114, so you may want to try it.
Still the same
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 11, 2006, 02:24:33 am
Just tested and noticed that, wheather slow-dragging or fast-dragging (drag-shaking) MC produces CPU usage up to 62% !
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 13, 2006, 07:58:40 pm
is this topic closed ?
I think that this issue is produced due to low MC skin engine loading speed!
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: JimH on February 13, 2006, 08:01:00 pm
Pink,
I'm sorry, but we don't regard this as a big problem.  It is probably related to the speed of your video card.

Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 13, 2006, 09:59:57 pm
Quote from: JimH on February 13, 2006, 08:01:00 pm
Pink,
I'm sorry, but we don't regard this as a big problem. It is probably related to the speed of your video card.


Ati Radeon,
256 DDR RAM @200 MHZ
GPU @250 MHZ Core Clock Speed
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: Pink Waters on February 21, 2006, 01:46:35 am
Quote from: Pink Waters on February 11, 2006, 02:24:33 am
Just tested and noticed that, wheather slow-dragging or fast-dragging (drag-shaking) MC produces CPU usage up to 62% !
WHY ?!
Title: Re: Screen display problem when dragging rapidly
Post by: marko on February 21, 2006, 01:59:12 am
it'll be a screen drawing thing.

Try it with WMP for example, I managed to get it's cpu usage up to 50% by moving it around the desktop rapidly.
It's got to try and keep up with you, so it's re-drawing itself, and constantly updating its window location untill you let it be in one place.

that's my theory anyway.  to be honest with you, when I'm using MC, it's either maximised or in the system tray and that's about it.