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More => Old Versions => Media Center 12 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: lOth on September 23, 2006, 09:13:15 am

Title: no album= complete album
Post by: lOth on September 23, 2006, 09:13:15 am
I had a smartlist in MC 11 that would give me a list of 12 random complete albums and it was phrased like this:

~limit=12,-1,[Album] ~sort=[Album],[Track #] completealbum==1

Now in MC12 my list includes songs that have unassigned albums. Thus, in addition to a few complete albums I end up with a very long list of songs that are not associated with any album and that I don't want to see in there. I found a workaround by adding this: -[Album]=[]

I assume that the reason for this is because MC11 rightly assumed that songs that had no album were not part of a complete album. Can MC12 make that ame logical assumption?

Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: lepa on October 07, 2006, 02:15:15 pm
bump.

Is this by design or a bug in MC12?
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: lOth on October 15, 2006, 12:53:09 pm
still having problem with the 'complete album' field. [complete album]=1 in my search string disqualifies *some* albums that are in  fact complete. How is this field calculated? Why do some of my complete albums appear as such and others don't?
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: Alex B on October 15, 2006, 01:27:52 pm
From MC's Help:
Quote
Complete Albums
Media Center can automatically display complete and incomplete albums. An album is considered complete if all the files with the same [Album] value in the same directory:

-  are sequentially numbered tracks starting at 1

-  have at least 2 files or 10 minutes of audio

-  are Audio and have a non-empty [Album] value.


Do your incomplete albums have disc numbers? If yes, do you use the same album name for each disc, do each disc have individual track numbering and do you keep all album files in the same folder? This combination does not qualify as "complete". The "complete album" rules were made before the Disc Number field was introduced.
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: Alex B on October 15, 2006, 01:33:13 pm
I have at least two albums that I cannot make complete:

Mike Oldfield - Amarok (http://www.discogs.com/release/501910)

Juno Reactor - Luciana (http://www.discogs.com/release/61352)

Both albums have only one track.
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: datdude on October 15, 2006, 02:11:19 pm
I  have seen this problem as well.  I simply made a new field in MC and then copied the album data over and then edited it on my own.  Not the best way, but at least it works!
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: JimH on October 15, 2006, 02:12:19 pm
Are the disk numbers different?  1 and 2, for example?
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: Alex B on October 15, 2006, 02:42:24 pm
Are the disk numbers different?  1 and 2, for example?

I assumed that.

MC doesn't see an album like this as complete (all files are in the same folder):

Best of  (= album name)
Disc 1  Track 1
Disc 1  Track 2 
Disc 1  Track 3
Disc 2  Track 1
Disc 2  Track 2
Disc 2  Track 3

This is complete:

Best of
Disc 1  Track 1
Disc 1  Track 2 
Disc 1  Track 3
Disc 2  Track 4
Disc 2  Track 5
Disc 2  Track 6

These both are complete (because they are two separate albums)

Best of (Disc 1)
Disc 1  Track 1
Disc 1  Track 2 
Disc 1  Track 3
Best of (Disc 2)
Disc 2  Track 1
Disc 2  Track 2
Disc 2  Track 3


The Disc Number field is not included in the completeness check.


Personally, I have never used the "Complete Album" flag for anything.

All albums that I have in the album folders are complete. I know that. I have a couple of folders that contain various non-album audio files that may also have incomplete tagging and some album tags too. For these files I made a custom field named Lonely. The only allowed field values are "Y" and empty. I can use this field for separating these files from complete albums.
Title: Re: no album= complete album
Post by: lepa on October 15, 2006, 05:09:17 pm
I have some non album tracks and therefore don't have track number at all.
MC12 still thinks that they are from complete album and I have to use -[Album]="" in my schemes to really see only complete albums.

MC12 thinks this lonely file in the folder is complete album:
Artist="Who"
Album ""
Track # ""
Name="My Generation"

In MC11 this is (in my opinion) correctly identified as an incomplete.