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Title: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Jaguu on March 08, 2007, 05:53:52 pm
Hi Matt,

Nice Weather-Plugin :D  The temperature here in Switzerland displays 41 degrees - like in the Sahara Desert :P

We use here Degree Celsius and not Fahrenheit! So some conversion for non US/non UK countries may be needed!
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: raym on March 08, 2007, 05:55:50 pm
Here's a sample Theater View plugin:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin01.zip

Extract the contents to [Media Center]\Plugins (so there'll be a Theater View folder under Plugins)

It's quite rough, but will give you an idea of where we're headed.

Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 08, 2007, 06:01:29 pm
Very Slick !
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: jmone on March 08, 2007, 06:09:56 pm
Nice one on the Weather Plug-In, I like the way it is just a seamless part of the D'Top (shame though you guys are still not metric, get your dates backward etc :P)
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 08, 2007, 06:26:45 pm
The weather isn't ours.  I think it's coming from weather.com.  There may be a way to tell it what scale to use (C or F).

We know what metric is.  We just can't decide to use it.  Maybe some day.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on March 08, 2007, 06:34:43 pm
The weather isn't ours.  I think it's coming from weather.com.  There may be a way to tell it what scale to use (C or F).

We know what metric is.  We just can't decide to use it.  Maybe some day.

Very nice "extra" feature for MC -- a "whistle and bell" type feature that I think a lot of people (such as myself) will actually use.

Actually, after seeing this in Theater View, I'd like to be able to see this info incorporated into the Standard View as well.

If you do decide to incorporate metric, please keep the option of using F for those of us who are metrically challenged.

Thanks,

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Matt on March 08, 2007, 06:39:15 pm
An option for f vs c will be added to the weather module.

The RSS news part (eventually a separate plugin) will be configurable to use your favorite news / RSS sites.  You'll be able to zoom in on a story and read the whole thing.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on March 08, 2007, 06:40:55 pm
I'm sure I'm just missing it, but how do you change the location once it's been set?

Also, what time does "night" start?  It's 4:30 PM here, and it already shows a moon and lists it as "Night" even though the sun won't be setting for about an hour and a half or more.

Thanks,

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Matt on March 08, 2007, 06:47:09 pm
I'm sure I'm just missing it, but how do you change the location once it's been set?

You don't.  Eventually configuration will be available in Plugin Manager or Theater View options.  We're not sure which one makes more sense.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 08, 2007, 07:51:16 pm
Quote
The RSS news part (eventually a separate plugin) will be configurable to use your favorite news / RSS sites.  You'll be able to zoom in on a story and read the whole thing

Looking forward to this.

Thanks
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: raym on March 09, 2007, 12:22:41 am
An option for f vs c will be added to the weather module.

Matt, could you also please add an option to show or hide the weather icon on Theater View's main page please?

Thanks heaps.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 09, 2007, 02:52:35 am
Sweet!  ;D
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 09, 2007, 07:54:40 am
lalittle,
I split your post and the comments to a new thread called "Lower left corner display in Theater View".
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 09, 2007, 01:46:22 pm
It's 4:30 PM here, and it already shows a moon and lists it as "Night" even though the sun won't be setting for about an hour and a half or more.

Lucky.  You must be in the "right" time zone, unlike us here in Maine.   >:(
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: raym on March 09, 2007, 08:36:17 pm
Matt, could you also please add an option to show or hide the weather icon on Theater View's main page please?

Thanks heaps.

Just to clarify this, I think it would be nice to be able to hide the current temperature icon on the Theater View home page (I'm not a fan of this) but to be able to see the current temp in the weather page itself.

The weather page doesn't actually show the current temp in the "Current Conditions" portion of the screen.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 10, 2007, 04:06:19 am
Weathers not fitting correctly on my widescreen.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1639/weatherps5.jpg

Text Size Small.
On Vista
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Osho on March 10, 2007, 12:59:32 pm
A probably dumb question:

How do I get the Weather button to show up in Theater View Home page? I have installed the Theater View Plugin as instructed (unzipping and putting it under Plugins directory). I had previously configured to only show some buttons in the theater view (Audio/Images/video/CD & DVD/Playing Now/Exit). Now, if I click on Add I only see News, Playlists and TV but no Weather.

thanks,
Osho
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 10, 2007, 01:12:02 pm
In the Plugins directory, you should have a directory called Theater View.  Example:

C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\Plugins\Theater View\Weather

And you need the latest build of MC.  12.0.189.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Osho on March 11, 2007, 04:14:01 am
In the Plugins directory, you should have a directory called Theater View.  Example:

C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\Plugins\Theater View\Weather

And you need the latest build of MC.  12.0.189.

I have that directory. I still don't see the Weather button in Home page of Theater View.

thanks,
Osho
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: jmone on March 11, 2007, 05:02:30 am
One of my PC's has the Weather Button - the other does not - will have to look harder!

Also I use Acajou for the Skin and you can not read any of the RSS Feed text when you select a particular story (white text on white backgroud I am guessing!)

Thanks
Nathan
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 11, 2007, 07:47:21 am
I wonder if it has to do with whether you've installed weather.com's weather before (outside MC).  If so, the cookie might need to be deleted.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 11, 2007, 01:10:26 pm
Can I just say...

Wow.  I really like this.  Great work guys.  I assume we'll eventually see some documentation on building our own plugins?

Couple relatively small (I think) requests for the RSS Feed viewer:

1. We need to be able to configure the fonts for the text somehow.  Completely unreadable on my TV from the couch.
2. When we can eventually add our own feeds, it'd be nice to be able to organize them into "folders" or "categories" (ala-bookmarks).  That would cut down on first-page clutter and make it easy to navigate to the feed we want to look at.

I also don't know if it's possible at all (might not be worth the effort), but it'd be really nice if we could get alternate sources for the weather information.  Weather.com has pretty terrible accuracy for me here, unfortunately (it seems to me that the focus a lot more on urban areas than rural ones).  Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/) does a much more reliable job generally.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 11, 2007, 01:16:24 pm
Weathers not fitting correctly on my widescreen.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1639/weatherps5.jpg

Text Size Small.
On Vista

Sames occuring with RSS
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 11, 2007, 01:41:27 pm
I've got a machine here which won't show
the weather plugin either.
It did ask me where I was based for the
Weather but doesn't actually show it in Theatre View.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: zirum on March 11, 2007, 04:23:25 pm
MC crashes after about 5 seconds in theater view for me, so i haven't had the joy of testing this yet. But since beeing in a starter face, i'll just wait...:)

I did get the city dialog, and entered Oslo, Norway thou. It probaly doesn't like us angry norwegians i guess... ::)
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: enervation on March 11, 2007, 04:24:55 pm
I've got a machine here which won't show
the weather plugin either.
It did ask me where I was based for the
Weather but doesn't actually show it in Theatre View.

Me too
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Hugo_Elbuho on March 11, 2007, 04:32:27 pm
It happened a little bit different to me... I had the applet which let me enter the city. Pressed Search and found "Quito, Ecuador". Selected it,  but then on whenever i tried to get to Theater View, it took MC at least 10 seconds just to show the screen and i didn't get to see anything. Didn't crash in my case.

Finally i had to delete the plugin directory i created as instructed to get this working right again.

Anyway, i'm confident this will work soon! :)

Thanks for the great feature.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JONCAT on March 11, 2007, 11:51:29 pm
I can't enter US zipcode or city, state or use the Search button. It keeps telling me I have to enter a valid location. Using .189

DC
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 12, 2007, 12:33:57 pm
I wonder if it has to do with whether you've installed weather.com's weather before (outside MC).  If so, the cookie might need to be deleted.

I also have the same problem. Can't see the Weather menu item anywhere... I did have a weather.com cookie which I deleted but nothing...

 ?

M.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 13, 2007, 05:38:07 pm
Update,

I just got a new PC today, HP Pavillion a1740N Intel Dual Core, running Vista Home Premium. Installed MC 12 build 189 and then the Weather plug-in. Still can't see the Weather plug-in in Theater View....

Michel.


Media Center 12.0.189 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\

6.0  (Build 6000)
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  Use playback settings: No /

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Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: sdgrizdan on March 13, 2007, 09:53:58 pm
I can't see it either.

Media Center Registered 12.0.189 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Intel Unknown 797 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 440 MB

Internet Explorer: 7.0.5730.11 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82.2900 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.0.2900 / Shell32.dll: 6.0.2900 / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
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  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

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Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: New Vermaje on March 14, 2007, 03:21:37 am
I can't use this plugin...

there is an other way : http://www.eorezo.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

Jean-Marc
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: jmone on March 14, 2007, 03:44:44 am
I found the Weather Button - it was on the 2nd Page!  If you keep pressing the down arrow you will see the button as it seems not all the buttons fit on one page.
Nathan
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 14, 2007, 06:04:33 am
I found the Weather Button - it was on the 2nd Page!  If you keep pressing the down arrow you will see the button as it seems not all the buttons fit on one page.
Nathan

For a minute I had great hope.... But no, I don't have a second page :-(   So still no Weather button...
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: jmone on March 16, 2007, 05:54:14 am
For a minute I had great hope.... But no, I don't have a second page :-(   So still no Weather button...

I'm using the latest plugins and MC and the Weather button is definatly on the "second page" - to see it I have to keep pressing the down arrow for it to appear (and then the "playing now" button disapears) - I'd sugest that the TheaterView has plenty of desktop realestate and should be redesigned to show all the buttons.

Also - I can now read the RSS Feads so the background text change has worked (even if it is in a poxy yellow!)

Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Deivit on March 16, 2007, 04:30:55 pm
I can't see the weather button either  :(
(Are all of us who cannot see the weather button from out of the USA, perhaps?)
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 16, 2007, 04:31:54 pm
I can't see the weather button either  :(
(Are all of us who cannot see the weather button from out of the USA, perhaps?)

Well I'm Canada...
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 16, 2007, 06:08:32 pm
My machine here that was working with Weather when it first came out abeit with
problems due to widescreen, is now longer working.
The plugin has disappeared.  I've no idea how to get it back.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 16, 2007, 06:46:14 pm
Quote
The plugin has disappeared.  I've no idea how to get it back

So, its not in Plugins/Theater view/Weather ?

If not, the last zip file:

Quote
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin03.zip


Edit: This is not for people with Built mc12/189, look below for what you need.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 16, 2007, 06:51:52 pm
So, its not in Plugins/Theater view/Weather ?

If not, the last zip file:


BINGO! I had downloaded and installed the one that finished with 01.... Everything works now!

Tres cool!

Michel.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: mlefebvre on March 16, 2007, 07:08:02 pm
Update.... I also downloaded the one that finished with 03 after, and does not work. The one that does finishes with 02. Went back to that and it works again.

Michel.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 16, 2007, 07:24:14 pm
Quote
I also downloaded the one that finished with 03 after, and does not work

Yes you are right !

My house is like a Zoo right now.

That reply was for Mr ChriZ.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Deivit on March 17, 2007, 08:16:11 am
Installed the one ending in "03" and it works well here with a build higher than 189.
Very nice. Thank you!
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Mr ChriZ on March 17, 2007, 09:00:00 am
Ah brilliant cheers =)
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 17, 2007, 09:59:48 am
Installed the one ending in "03" and it works well here with a build higher than 189.
Very nice. Thank you!

Here's the link:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin03.zip

Extract the contents to [Media Center]\Plugins (so there'll be a Theater View folder under Plugins).
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JONCAT on March 17, 2007, 10:36:16 am
I tried the 03 and the search function now works; I was able to log in my location, but no Weather Plugin visible. I have Exit as my last button; show up/down arrows set for Theater View. Still no plugin. Running x64.

DC

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 Workstation 5.2 Service Pack 1 (Build 3790)
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Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 17, 2007, 01:06:30 pm
MC12/188 = 01.zip

MC12/189 = 02.zip

MC12/190 and up = 03.zip

and judging from mlefebvre post, 03 will not work with MC12/189
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: JimH on March 17, 2007, 02:06:23 pm
Here are  the links to all three:

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin01.zip

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin02.zip

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/MC12/TheaterViewPlugin03.zip

Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on March 17, 2007, 03:57:59 pm
Just to verify, is there still not yet a way of changing your location once it's set?

Thanks,

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: StarBand Guy on March 18, 2007, 03:36:48 pm
Work around on location change -
re-install the weather channel toolbar for IE. It should give you the setup box.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Deivit on March 19, 2007, 02:52:47 am
Question on RSS Feeds:
Is there any way to "open" the selected headline? I'm clicking on it without success.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 19, 2007, 09:23:20 am
Quote
Is there any way to "open" the selected headline? I'm clicking on it without success

On Headlines :

use up/down arrow first.

Then enter.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 19, 2007, 10:51:41 am
A quick recommendation for the coming RSS Feed Reader Theater View plugin (I'm so excited -- this is really cool!!)...

Include this as one of the default feeds:  http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=30

 ;)
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Deivit on March 19, 2007, 01:39:43 pm
On Headlines :

use up/down arrow first.

Then enter.

Thank you! That did the trick... seems easy when you know it  :-[
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: rpalmer68 on March 23, 2007, 04:13:22 am
An option for f vs c will be added to the weather module.


Is this close? 
It's been quite hot over here the last few days, and the PC telling me it's 75 makes it feel even worse!!

Thanks
Richard
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 23, 2007, 08:28:43 am
It's been quite hot over here the last few days, and the PC telling me it's 75 makes it feel even worse!!

Come now... 75 isn't hot at all.  That's about as close to perfect as you can get!   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on March 23, 2007, 01:01:21 pm
I mentioned this in the build thread, but it should probably be mentioned here as well.

When using 1024 x 768 for full screen res in MC (the HIGHEST res that can be used for NTSC TV output) the information in the daily panels for the weather does not fit on the screen.  The high temps are cut off in both the regular and "hilighted" views for the days.  The only way to get the info to fit is to use a higher res, but I CAN'T do this since I'm sending this information to a TV over S-Video, and 1024 x 768 is the highest res I can use for this.

Since Theater View is designed to be able to be viewed on TVs, and since composite and S-Video signals are still common for graphics card outputs, plugins should be able to fit on standard size TV displays witout this being a problem.

Thanks,

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 23, 2007, 01:16:49 pm
I'm seeing this issue (Larry's from just above) too.  Can't read the daily High temps at all.  The plugin really needs to work at 1024x768, which is still a very common resolution, even with HDTVs (which at 720p are essentially that resolution too).  However, all in all, my wife and I both like the new Weather layout much, much better than the old one.  My wife was particularly enthusiastic (she's kinda a weather junky).

She did make an interesting suggestion though... She said it'd be really slick if there were some way to pull up the local Doppler radar.  I agree... That's the other major thing I go to weather sites on the web for, and it'd be super-cool to get this via MC!
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Venom908 on March 23, 2007, 04:06:26 pm
i dont know if this is an error, or just not featured yet.

but on the current forecast it shows the picture of the current condidtion, and shows the current condition in text


but doesnt show tempteture.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Osho on March 23, 2007, 07:36:07 pm
Is there a way to change the text size for the RSS plugin text? I would like to increase it a little..

thanks,
Osho
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 27, 2007, 09:31:05 pm
Is there a way to advance to the next page in a Theater View RSS news story, or is this just not implemented yet?  When I bring up a full article page, I can't read the full story for any articles that don't fit on a single page.  I've tried page down, cursor down, enter, etc., but nothing works -- I just advance to the next story.

This hasn't been implemented yet I believe, Larry, but...

I've been thinking about this.  When implemented, I think that either the Right Arrow or the Down Arrow key would be the most intuitive to "continue to the next page".

Using the Right Arrow key would give it the "continue to drill right" feel, and then the left arrow could revert back to the previous page and then to the "list" of stories (and hopefully eventually then the set of feeds and then the folder containing the set of feeds).

Using the Down Arrow might be less intuitive in the "drill down" sense, but would be certainly more intuitive for brand new users.  When using a web browser (which people are used to) scrolling up or down the page is a simple Up/Down arrow away.  This method would mean once you "open" an individual item from the feed, the behavior changes a bit, but it would still work fairly cleanly.  I think Enter (labeled OK on most remotes) would be good to "exit out" from the feed item and return to the feed listing (with ESC backing out too maybe?)...
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on March 28, 2007, 03:53:41 am
This hasn't been implemented yet I believe, Larry, but...

I've been thinking about this.  When implemented, I think that either the Right Arrow or the Down Arrow key would be the most intuitive to "continue to the next page".

Using the Right Arrow key would give it the "continue to drill right" feel, and then the left arrow could revert back to the previous page and then to the "list" of stories (and hopefully eventually then the set of feeds and then the folder containing the set of feeds).

Using the Down Arrow might be less intuitive in the "drill down" sense, but would be certainly more intuitive for brand new users.  When using a web browser (which people are used to) scrolling up or down the page is a simple Up/Down arrow away.  This method would mean once you "open" an individual item from the feed, the behavior changes a bit, but it would still work fairly cleanly.  I think Enter (labeled OK on most remotes) would be good to "exit out" from the feed item and return to the feed listing (with ESC backing out too maybe?)...

I can't be sure without trying it, but I "think" that using the up/down arrows to scroll the main news feed pages might be the most intuitive solution.  Given that the text goes off the bottom of the page, my first thought (and I believe most users first thought) will be to press "down" to scroll.  I also this that pgdn/pgup should a page at a time in each direction.  You're correct that this means that the behavior would change a bit from other areas, but I still think it would make intuitive sense.  This could also be made more clear by putting a little "down arrow" icon at the bottom of the "full" page.  While on the page with multiple news panels, it makes sense to use up/down to go to the next/previous story.

I think that the left arrow button is the most intuitive for moving from a "full story" news page back to the multi-story/multi-panel page .  To me, "enter" seems to imply moving "forward" through the pages (i.e. drilling down) rather than back, so I'm not sure it will work well for moving backwards.

Thanks for the feedback,

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: glynor on March 28, 2007, 08:34:17 am
I think that the left arrow button is the most intuitive for moving from a "full story" news page back to the multi-story/multi-panel page .  To me, "enter" seems to imply moving "forward" through the pages (i.e. drilling down) rather than back, so I'm not sure it will work well for moving backwards.

I tend to agree, however... The Left Arrow and the Enter key already do what you suggest, and I certainly don't propose to change it.  I personally also think the Left Arrow key is intuitive to "back out" of the current "page" (that's why I suggested "going with" the left/right navigation motif), but lots of users might not.  I can also see the Enter key (when assigned as the OK key in the middle of the arrows on a remote) as "OK, I'm done. Take me back".  I think both should work.

Before I wrote that before... I watched my Wife try to navigate it on her own without instruction.  She was frustrated that she couldn't figure out how to get to the second page.  She first tried the down arrow, then OK, then the Right Arrow key, and lastly the "page down" key (chan up/down on my remote).  And, of course, then she complained to me, telling me to "tell the dog to fix it" (which is how she refers to Matt's avatar and the entire Interact board).  All of these keys did the exact same thing (or close to it) -- they "exited" the story and moved to a different one.

That said.... We both really love the feature.  Her favorite is the Weather plugin (though it's frustrating that we still can't see the daily High temps at all), but the RSS feed viewer is pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: tcman41 on March 30, 2007, 07:33:22 pm
my weather/rss was working with version .189 but since i updated to version .198 now the plugin doesnt show up.

I have tried all three versions of the weather/rss plugin 01, 02, 03 and nothing.

Real shame, my MC12 is really pimped out now with the Intention skin and bleeding edge visual, having weather and rss feeds in theater view would have completed my visual package but i guess i still looking...

TC  ?
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Griff on March 30, 2007, 07:46:22 pm
Quote
my weather/rss was working with version .189 but since i updated to version .198 now the plugin doesnt show up.

I have tried all three versions of the weather/rss plugin 01, 02, 03 and nothing

Read the MC12/198 thread at the top of the board.

There you will find 08.zip.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Patrik on April 15, 2007, 08:15:59 pm
Hmm the only thing I see at the top of the MC12 bd is Media Center 12.0.207 info.I dont see a beta forum either is that where the 08.zip is?

Read the MC12/198 thread at the top of the board.

There you will find 08.zip.

Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Magic_Randy on April 15, 2007, 08:25:18 pm
Hmm the only thing I see at the top of the MC12 bd is Media Center 12.0.207 info.I dont see a beta forum either is that where the 08.zip is?


The plug-ins are included in the thread that has the MC version.  The following link is from the 12.0.207 thread.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=39870.msg271830#msg271830
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 16, 2007, 06:42:40 am
That did the trick. Needed 09 for build 198 and 207.

Two questions:

1. Is there any plans on converting from Farenheit to Celsius?
Farenheit makes my head hurt (where's the logic in it anyway?).

2. How can I choose wich RRS feeds to use?
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Cmagic on April 18, 2007, 03:44:45 am
Hi,

Nice weather plugin, pretty much useless here in Europe until it displays °C.

I tried to fiddle on www.weather.com configuration in the hope that TV weather plugin would use the weather.com cookie for location and °C setup. Unfortunately, it does not work that way.

A month or so ago, Matt, said they would add a F vs C option in the TV plugin, let's hope for it !

BTW this morning the temp here in Paris displays 52 which is 125 F for us.  8)
Climate change effect probably !

Cheers,

Christian
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: lalittle on April 18, 2007, 05:44:27 am
In response to the last two posts:  The newer beta builds have added the ability to change location and to select Celsius or Fahrenheit.  You'll see this ability as soon as a new build is posted to the main MC12 thread.  There are a lot of changes going on with Theater View in the beta builds lately, which has led to some new bugs that need to be worked out.  Also, the general design and layout of Theater View has been going through some growing pains recently, so I think that JR is waiting for things to settle in a bit before posting a new build to the MC12 forum.

Larry
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 18, 2007, 08:25:05 am
Great new! Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Cmagic on April 18, 2007, 09:56:08 am
Rock'n roll !

Thanks for the good news,

Christian
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 24, 2007, 03:31:35 pm
As I said, I were really looking forward to the new build and plugin. But I can't get a thing to work.
Have tried with theaterviewplugin01, 03, 08 and 09. No one of them works. Some will be displayed under Plugin Managements, some will not. Think you have to install the plugins in build 219. Tried to do that too. Some would be added, some would not.

Are there a new plugin ot there? Someone got a recepie for this the 219 build and the plugin?
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Matt on April 24, 2007, 03:37:07 pm
As I said, I were really looking forward to the new build and plugin. But I can't get a thing to work.
Have tried with theaterviewplugin01, 03, 08 and 09. No one of them works. Some will be displayed under Plugin Managements, some will not. Think you have to install the plugins in build 219. Tried to do that too. Some would be added, some would not.

Are there a new plugin ot there? Someone got a recepie for this the 219 build and the plugin?

In the build 219 thread there is a link to the install for the latest Theater View plugins.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 24, 2007, 04:40:20 pm
In the build 219 thread there is a link to the install for the latest Theater View plugins.

Yea... Tried that. The same file/link as the one you get from the Plugin Manager I guess.
I hit the link. Download the file. It again downloads the plugin. Installs/copies the files under "plugin\theater view" directory with RSS and Weather folder. I then go to the Plugin Manager. They are both under Theater view. The I hit add and adds the dll for RSS (tv_RSS.dll) and the same for Weather (tv_Weather.dll). Still nothing under "Options > Theater View > Items to show" or in the Theater View.

Sure it's just me?
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 28, 2007, 07:08:09 pm
*bumpeti bump*
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Magic_Randy on April 28, 2007, 07:46:51 pm
Yea... Tried that. The same file/link as the one you get from the Plugin Manager I guess.
I hit the link. Download the file. It again downloads the plugin. Installs/copies the files under "plugin\theater view" directory with RSS and Weather folder. I then go to the Plugin Manager. They are both under Theater view. The I hit add and adds the dll for RSS (tv_RSS.dll) and the same for Weather (tv_Weather.dll). Still nothing under "Options > Theater View > Items to show" or in the Theater View.

Sure it's just me?

I'm not sure I know the steps you went through, but you need to:

1) Download the plugins
2) Add the plugins (Options > Theater View > Add button by the Items to show window)
3) For weather plugin you need to edit it to set up your location & format.  This is in the same place as 2) above.
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: MrHaugen on April 29, 2007, 05:53:16 am
I had to add it in the Theater View. NOT the plugin manager.
Read that you had to add it now. Jut thought about the plugin manager.
I'll go hide in the corner now....

Thanks Randy
Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Magic_Randy on April 29, 2007, 09:42:20 am
I had to add it in the Theater View. NOT the plugin manager.
Read that you had to add it now. Jut thought about the plugin manager.
I'll go hide in the corner now....

Thanks Randy

As it's not documented yet, don't feel bad. No need to hind in the corner.
Title: Fonts in the RSS feeds?
Post by: raldo on April 30, 2007, 05:24:30 am
Hi,

Theater view displays the Norwegian characters (øæåØÆÅ)  in the RSS feeds incorrectly.

I have "personalized" www.google.com to display norwegian news... 

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Title: Re: Theater View Plug-ins
Post by: Ril on May 25, 2007, 08:52:36 am
May I translate text in TV Weather Plugin?