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Title: CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 13, 2002, 10:27:23 pm

Can someone explain how the licensing works for cds I rip to pc and then access from another pc?
Where's the license info kept and why do I sometimes get sent to another ms webpage that doesn't have the license transfer details.

Thanks

DMc

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Mirko on August 13, 2002, 11:38:58 pm

Why do you need that license? I thought ripping of CD would be transfered digitally, so there is no time, where the license-issue could come up...

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 13, 2002, 11:55:51 pm

Some newer music cds seem to include some license mechanism which means when I copy the mp3 to my other pc, it has to connect to microsoft's web site to transfer a license.
With some albums I copied in January and then reformatted the hard disk, I don't seem to be able to update the license. I have to rip the cd again for it to work??? :-(

If someone can explain what's happening, I'd be thrilled.

David.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Mirko on August 14, 2002, 12:08:49 am

I don't understand that.

You buy CDs with MP3 files?? No. You do encode yourself, don't you? The only thing I ever heard (and have experience with) is copy protection. I didn't know you can protect a CD with licensing...

I'm interested, too.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 14, 2002, 12:27:04 am

I buy standard music cd
I rip them to mp3 with MJ
I copy mp3 files to another hard disk.
If I play those files from another pc, in some cases that 2nd pc has to connect to MS's website to transfer a license???

That's all I know.

David.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Fastyves on August 14, 2002, 06:35:27 am

Never heard about that !!!

Did he discover a new hidden feature in M$ ?    

Yves.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Gatobrit on August 14, 2002, 06:56:11 am

Cookie - are you sure you're encoding to MP3? This sounds like some M$ WMA shenanigans.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: lee269 on August 14, 2002, 09:33:14 am

Cookie

I am not an expert, but I think you have WMA set as your encoding preference. I saw something in my newspaper about this the other day (it refers to Windows Media player, but sound suspiciously similar). Choose Settings/Options/Encoding/Encoding type and quality and see if you have Windows Media set as your encoder. If so, click advanced and disable Personal Rights Management. Or choose an MP3 encoder to create MP3s in the future. I dont think this will solve your problem for files you have already copied to CD Im afraid - you will have to re-rip.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 14, 2002, 10:03:09 pm

I swear I'm using mp3, but maybe some of them are the files I ripped with MS MPlayer before discovering MJ?
I'll have to pay more attention to what files are doing it.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: joe mama on August 14, 2002, 11:40:07 pm

IIRC, Windows Media Player has the Personal Rights Management enabled by default when it is installed.  Most likely, the only way to transfer those files to a new computer would be to re-rip them, making sure the Rights Management is disabled.

Rob

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 14, 2002, 11:54:53 pm

Thanks Rob, I'll give that a try.
Cheers.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: phelt on August 15, 2002, 12:08:55 am

Sounds like this is close to resolved, but I'll pitch in a few thoughts:
On ANY copy of Windows Media Player, I recommend disabling Rights Management. I haven't seen a thorough explanation of its functionality, thus I suspect it

Especially after this type of mess: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-841766.html

Last thought - are you using MJ or WMP to play the music on the other PC?

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 15, 2002, 03:18:55 am

Thanks Phelt,
I admit I dont' know now whether the files that misbehaved were all wmas- I thought they were mp3 as well.
Likewise I can't confirm which I ripped them with :-(
How embarassing! :-(

BUT at least I seem to have confirmed this is not an issue with mp3s from MJ :-)

So thanks all.

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 15, 2002, 06:43:18 pm

Here's a challenge then:

How can I get MJ to batch convert every wma file in my collection to mp3, without tediously opening each folder 1 at a time?

I need to sort or find by file type!?

Help

David

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: zevele1 on August 15, 2002, 10:57:26 pm

To convert to one format to another will give you only a very bad sound quality.
If you still have the cds,much much better to rip them again in mp3.
I know it mays take time,but the result is worth.
Now,i hoppe -as many others- what you will never ever open ,use windows mediaplayer anymore
With Media Jukebox,you have all you need to manage your music,and they do not try to f..k you on like many other programs.I do not want to give names....but let say like windows mediaplayer and realone....

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: phelt on August 15, 2002, 11:10:01 pm

zevele is correct - going from one lossy compressed format to another is bad, even if ripping again is a pain. But if you absolutely must:

Click on the Media Library - this shows the search bar at the top of the right pane.
Click the ... button (to the right of the search bar), select Add Rule > Media Type. Put a check next to WMA, leave all others unchecked.
Click OK.
Now all your WMA files should be listed below the search bar. Select them all, then click Tools > Convert Format
The rest is up to you and the help file

Title: RE:CD Licenses
Post by: Cookie on August 15, 2002, 11:27:45 pm

Wow, what a cool program
Thanks guys.