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Title: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: jack wallstreet on November 27, 2007, 08:14:20 pm
Please feel free to yell at me for not understanding or being aware, but I just noticed that MJ12 (what appears to be the audio only version) of my favorite and incredible software is free.  Is this new and if so, could someone explain the marketing rationale.  I want MC12 to be developed for many, many more years (for selfish reasons) and would like to understand J Rivers philosophy about what is apparently a free audio version.  I don't object to free if it will help J River to continue to develop MC 12 (and MJ 12) and be happy and able to stay in business.
Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: mlefebvre on November 27, 2007, 08:23:29 pm
I'll sure that Jim will be happy to further explain, but think of it this way: it's a bit like the old but brilliant "Giving Away the Razor, Selling the Blades" strategy that Gillette came up with years ago....

It's a good thing ((C) Martha Stewart) for JRiver and MC.

...Michel.

Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: KingSparta on November 27, 2007, 08:52:03 pm
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but think of it this way: it's a bit like the old but brilliant "Giving Away the Razor, Selling the Blades" strategy that Gillette came up with years ago....

Maybe, but it also maybe something to do with the many players, and contracts\agreements that JRiver signs with music providers.

I am not sure you will get any insight in the inner workings of JRiver, and there business plans now or in the future.
Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: Matt on November 27, 2007, 09:25:48 pm
We're going to lose money on each copy, but then make it up on volume ;D
Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: datdude on November 27, 2007, 10:15:44 pm
We're going to lose money on each copy, but then make it up on volume ;D

Doh!
Title: Free MJ12 - What is the difference?
Post by: Listener on November 27, 2007, 10:28:38 pm
I have no problem with paying for MC 11 and 12.  I would like to understand how MJ 12 relates to MC 12.  What is missing?

I don't use MC 12 for managing images.  I don't want them in my library with audio files.  Switching libraries seems to kill whatever is playing.  I could use image management but MC 12 doesn't seem to fit my needs.

A slimmer MC with fewer crashes would be a plus for me.  No DirectShow stuff for example.

Bill Hunt


Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: cosmicfx on November 27, 2007, 11:38:51 pm
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I could use image management but MC 12 doesn't seem to fit my needs

I converted not so long ago, to using MC for organizing my images as I feel it has got to a point that is suffient, but have mentioned and requested that I hope that MC starts giving image management and editing a higher priority in the near future, so that it can function with the same brilliance it does, with image files as it does with audio files.

With just a few tweaks and functionality, I think can make MC also the the Best image organizer ever.

Thanks,cosmic

Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: BryanC on November 28, 2007, 12:08:31 am
I would also like to know the differences between MC12 and MJ12...could you list them somewhere please? I use MC12 solely for music so I'm wondering if MJ12 might offer a more streamlined interface for this purpose.
Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: rjm on November 28, 2007, 01:19:29 am
I would also like to know the differences between MC12 and MJ12...could you list them somewhere please? I use MC12 solely for music so I'm wondering if MJ12 might offer a more streamlined interface for this purpose.

I pulled this off the JRiver web site. Differences seem pretty clear.

Reasons to upgrade (from MJ12 to MC12):

The same great support for Photos and Video that you get for Music. Media Mode buttons give you instant access to media type: Music, Photos, Videos

Ability to create multiple media libraries to organize your files

Selectable skins and Slim View with cool translucent effect

Search, download and play rich content from Google Video/Images, YouTube and SHOUTcast - all without leaving the application

Video podcast support, including one click subscriptions

pix01 photo and video gallery feature. Create, upload and share photo and video albums on the web - for free!

Broadcast and cable TV (with tuner card)

Remote control support

Media Server -- Home networking

Plug-in support, including third-party plug-ins

Media Editor for editing sound files

DVD playback and recording

TV recording and instant-replay, Pause, Resume, FFWD, REW

Integrated music/image slideshow

ASIO Playback

Multi-Zone Playback

Web or FTP upload of media files

TiVo Home Media Option support for music and images. Enjoy your Playlists through TiVo

Support for Universal Plug 'n' Play devices e.g. Media streamers

Integrated support for Audible™ audiobook store
Title: Re: Slightly Nervous - Free MJ12 - Could Someone (J River?) Explain
Post by: JimH on November 28, 2007, 06:41:13 am
It's still a bit of a moving target.  It would be best to download it and try it.