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More => Old Versions => Media Jukebox => Topic started by: ChicoSelfs on August 03, 2002, 02:22:05 am

Title: OGG vs MPC
Post by: ChicoSelfs on August 03, 2002, 02:22:05 am

What do you think? People tell me that MPC is the best Lossy format.

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: sdcoochie on August 03, 2002, 04:24:45 am

MPC at the moment is still king of lossy but OGG is very very good as well. You should check out Hydrogen Audio for more informed information on this topic. I think if you encoded in either you wouldn't be unhappy. OGG at -q 6 is very good and about 175kb average much like MPC at a --q 5 or --standard profile.

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: KingSparta on August 03, 2002, 04:49:29 am

>> MPC at the moment is still king of lossy but OGG is very very good
But I Don't Think MPC Has A Very Large Company (Real Networks) Looking To Include This Encoding Into There Products Like They Are OGG. So It Seems MPC May Fall To The Side Unless More MP3 Programs\Jukeboxes PickUp Support.

The Other Key Is To Get The Market To Create Support In Hardware Like An MP3\OGG\WAF Player\CD Player

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: yughi on August 03, 2002, 05:37:45 am

Ahum

MPC is bad quality! I tried it and I found it trash
OGG rules...

Extreme good Quality even if you have musical Ears...i'm Cursed to have them. I have had to spend much money to make my computer a good sound system just because I couldn't do with less!

Ogg is the Best!

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: joe mama on August 03, 2002, 10:06:01 am

MPC is generally considered the best lossy encoder for bitrates 160 and up (--q 5 thru --q 8).  OGG is generally considered the best for lower bitrates (-q0 up to maybe -q3).  Right now, at higher bitrates, I think OGG is probably more comparable in quality to MP3.

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: zevele on August 03, 2002, 11:41:19 am

it is not fair to say that MPC is bad

You may like OGG more,ok,but do not say that MPC is bad

Or maybe you did not used the right settings

Anyway both are better than mp3

Title: RE:OGG vs MPC
Post by: sekim on August 03, 2002, 11:57:10 am

>>> Anyway both are better than mp3 <<<

But do not have the support for playback from portable players that mp3 does.

This format vs. format thing is kind of funny really. If you stop to think that maybe five years or so ago few, if any, existed. Now, it expected that some device maker is going to choose one or the other. It seems that we are moving faster then they are.

I still believe that encoding in any format is in its infancy yet. Ten or twenty years down the road this will all seem like silly nonsense. There will be new and better encoders to be sure. Many (formats) will have the capability to play on a wide variety of devices. I think we may have to let the manufacturers catch up a little.