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More => Old Versions => Media Center 13 (Development Ended) => Topic started by: bytestar on October 20, 2008, 06:16:20 pm
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I love it please do not remove ... please do not This is very practically.
13.0.61 (10/20/2008)
9. NEW: Added search suggestions that appear when using the main search box. (experimental -- may be removed)
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2. Optimized: Improved performance of several core database operations.
View schemes without grouping feel faster. Well done!
It would be wonderful if you could squeeze a bit more out of views with grouping (they are about twice as slow as views without grouping).
7. Fixed: File open dialogs that showed a preview would not work on Windows XP.
Confirmed ok now.
9. NEW: Added search suggestions that appear when using the main search box. (experimental -- may be removed)
I like it.
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9. NEW: Added search suggestions that appear when using the main search box. (experimental -- may be removed)
No thanks, I'd like an option to turn this off at least please, I know what I'm looking for, even if I can't find it :P
Other, perhaps more relavant thoughts- At the moment, you're matching to any text present, even if this is contained within a word & sorting alphabetically by the entire field. I'd consider changing the priority of results so that it lists those with text which was found at the start of a word first, with the other more erroneous matches later in the list.
7. Fixed: File open dialogs that showed a preview would not work on Windows XP.
Can I complain that I've still got a standard Vista browse dialog, not the nice MC skinned dialog with preview I used to have :'(
-Leezer-
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Other, perhaps more relavant thoughts- At the moment, you're matching to any text present, even if this is contained within a word & sorting alphabetically by the entire field. I'd consider changing the priority of results so that it lists those with text which was found at the start of a word first, with the other more erroneous matches later in the list.
It does put the best few matches at the top.
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I'd like an option to turn this off at least please, I know what I'm looking for, even if I can't find it :P
Above I said I liked the new feature. Upon deeper reflection I agree with Leezer. The old search was beautifully clean, simple, and powerful.
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Above I said I liked the new feature. Upon deeper reflection I agree with Leezer. The old search was beautifully clean, simple, and powerful.
In the suggestion system's defense, it doesn't take anything away from the old search system. It's still there -- type and a view filters down.
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9. NEW: Added search suggestions that appear when using the main search box. (experimental -- may be removed)
I like this. It makes it quick and easy to run a slightly more advanced search with a minimum of thought and typing. I guess an option to turn it off couldn't hurt, but I don't really see what the big deal is. It doesn't seem to slow anything down or really get in the way at all.
It might benefit from adding some keyboard method of getting the suggestions box to go away without committing to one category. For instance, I might want to run a search of all photos that have the word "Christmas" associated with them. That might be the album, caption, name, etc. The only way to run that search now is to type in Christmas and then click away from the suggestions box to make it go away. I don't really care as I'm not one of those people who never want to leave their keyboard, but I know there are people like that out there.
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Note that the search suggestions also search program commands. For example, type Pause to see an example.
We are considering adding options (i.e. Directshow settings...) and view names (i.e. Matt's Playlist) as well.
We're not sure either of these are good ideas, so feedback welcome.
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i like it. maybe hitting esc could close the form.
it has problems with list fields though
i type 'dere'
i get:
artists:
Derek Bailey
Derek Bailey;Henry Kaiser
Derek Bailey;Noël Akchoté
clicking the last two give 'no search results' although it is in the suggestions.
:)
gab
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I like it, but it does require a little more effort. I like the old way too.
If this stays, it might make sense to present the database media first, before on disk files (eg. w/music, present Name before Filename). I would suspect most want to see their DB data, and not access the on disk files.
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After playing with this a bit, I can't help but feel that it should also suggest database fields when typing in a search.
For instance, if I want to do a search of [Filename (path)]="\Import\", if I start typing "[Fi" it would be nice to be presented with "[Filename]", "[Filename (name)]", and "[Filename (path)]" as suggestions, to help me remember the syntax of that field.
Although I could just be saying that because, at present, it kind of gets in the way a little bit when trying to do that exact search. The only options it gives me are to pick a filename that contains "\Import\" when what I really want is everything in the Import folder.
Also... when clicking on the "Show all ## results", the suggestions box stays the same size as it was, rather than expand to accommodate the larger list.
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For instance, if I want to do a search of [Filename (path)]="\Import\", if I start typing "[Fi" it would be nice to be presented with "[Filename]", "[Filename (name)]", and "[Filename (path)]" as suggestions, to help me remember the syntax of that field.
In general, we don't want people thinking about syntax. The search / smartlist editor is the answer for complicated queries.
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Note that the search suggestions also search program commands. For example, type Pause to see an example.
Bad idea IMHO, this adds a potential source of confusion.
Search should remain limited to files, program commands should be in the help file :)
-Leezer-
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I like this new search functionality a lot.
But it should not default the search results to the first item (album), only change the results when pushing "enter",
or if still defaulting, when pushing the "down arrow" on the keyboard, the result should change as well.
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I load up my default audio view.
I type in the search bar: r=4,5 np=<10 lp=>31d
SearchOmatic states "No Results"
I press shift+enter
MC crashes. The "Media Center has encountered a problem..." variety.
If I do this using something that does produce results, shift+enter executes the first suggested result and plays nothing.
-marko
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I can't get the search box to stay on "Text". It always goes back to Wizard after each search.
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I like it too! The only thing I'm having problem with is the "See all x results". Just can't hit it.
Also, as other mention here, it would be nice if the menu selection was reflected with the actual files showing up.
Might be pretty search intensive. But if search "lookup" can be stoped when the next alternative is selected, I would prefer this.
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doing a search on the 3d wall is really nice.. ;D
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I don't like how if I type and hit enter, it selects from the searchomatic drop down. I'm used to typing and hitting enter because I type so fast (100 wpm+) that the 1 second delay is difficult for me. Especially a 2 or 3 word search query--that barely fills my hand action buffer (lol). My hands falling to the keyboard can type an artist name.
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Note that the search suggestions also search program commands. For example, type Pause to see an example.
We are considering adding options (i.e. Directshow settings...) and view names (i.e. Matt's Playlist) as well.
I think it's very cool, very well done. Definite thumbs up. I don't know about the programs/options, but I would use view names;
there are times it would make finding a list faster. I do agree that there should be some options to it - at the very least an
option to disable it for those who find it annoying. Also, adding half-stars to it would be great,... oops... wrong topic. Sorry. ;D