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Title: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Link on February 20, 2009, 01:34:21 pm
I LOVE media center, and have made it the central tool for all my media for many versions now.... I have recently run into 1 scenario where MC cannot do what I need, and it seems like it should.

The problem:

Some of my files have stray tags.  I have a huge amount of data, having ripped my entire library.  All recent files are cleanly tagged FLACs, but I have some older files from my itunes/emusic days.

While I use MC pretty much exclusively, I also have a squeezebox setup for easy family use.  (MC overwhelms them, and the easy handheld remote gets big points from them).

The tag "ITUNESCOMPILATION" which is present on some of these files breaks my otherwise cleanly organized structure.... I just want to remove it from all files.  Unfortunately, I can't see it in MC.

Currently, I use MP3Tag to find files with it set, and then remove it.  The ONLY reason I have this program is because I believe MC cannot do what I need.

MC is so powerful in all other aspects of tagging, I am surprised it cannot do this.  Is there a good reason, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: yonkiman on February 22, 2009, 11:05:56 am
Bump.  It sure would be useful if MC could allow you to edit tags beyond the ones it directly/natively supports.  I know dealing with tags isn't always as easy as it sounds, but isn't one of MC's strengths making the hard stuff seem easy?  :-)
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Listener on February 22, 2009, 01:02:52 pm
> The tag "ITUNESCOMPILATION" which is present on some of these files breaks
> my otherwise cleanly organized structure....

Does it break the structure within MC or does it affect how other programs or portable MP3 players view your files?  What happens that you describe as "breaks the structure"?

> I just want to remove it from all files.  Unfortunately, I can't see it in MC.

I use mostly Flac files.  The Flac plugin just reads the tags in music files and maps them to library database fields with the same name.  Thank you, Scott.

This seems to be a question of how the input plugin maps tags to database fields.

Bill

Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Link on February 23, 2009, 09:31:36 am
> The tag "ITUNESCOMPILATION" which is present on some of these files breaks
> my otherwise cleanly organized structure....

Does it break the structure within MC or does it affect how other programs or portable MP3 players view your files?  What happens that you describe as "breaks the structure"?




No - the structure in MC is great....It breaks the functionality of other things in my System - I was just hoping MC could continue to be my one tool to do everything.  It is such a good tagging tool, that I feel silly having to use another one just for this cleanup.
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: hit_ny on February 23, 2009, 10:23:16 am
that I feel silly having to use another one just for this cleanup.

But could possibly be the fastest way to fix.

Does the problem go away after ?
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Link on February 23, 2009, 11:14:03 am
But could possibly be the fastest way to fix.

Does the problem go away after ?

Yes - I can use MP3 tagger on one directory to look for an offending tag, remove it, and be OK after that.....

.....but I find myself longing for a powerful tagging tool....That gracefully handles 2TB of music files without choking....... That runs smoothly.... and is amazingly configurable to allow for sorting tagging in bulk jobs without bogging down......

....and then I get frustrated when I realize I have that tool - it just can't see this specific class of tags that other apps can. 
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: JimH on February 23, 2009, 11:32:31 am
The tag "ITUNESCOMPILATION" which is present on some of these files breaks my otherwise cleanly organized structure.... I just want to remove it from all files.  Unfortunately, I can't see it in MC.
Did you try adding it as a custom tag in MC?
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Link on February 23, 2009, 12:16:13 pm
Did you try adding it as a custom tag in MC?

I did... I had hoped this would work.... I tried adding it then updating from tags - but it did not show.  Is this something that should work?  If so, I can dig in and see if there is something I missed.
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: JimH on February 23, 2009, 12:22:58 pm
The tag name must match exactly.  You could try the Wiki (link above).  You should find info there.
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: hit_ny on February 23, 2009, 02:50:53 pm
Here's a tag table (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/help/main_tags.html)

Not sure if there is an equiv tag that can be added  ?
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: JimH on February 23, 2009, 03:03:31 pm
Try TCMP
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Link on February 23, 2009, 04:54:02 pm
Try TCMP

I tried ITUNESCOMPILATION and TCMP both..... added to library, updated one album that MP3Tagger shows with the tag.... Does not show up in Media Center.

Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: Only one step away from being the complete tagging tool....
Post by: Matt on February 23, 2009, 05:02:16 pm
We've added this to Media Center 13.0.127 and later:
NEW: If the field "iTunes Compilation" exists, it will be read and written to ID3v2 MP3 tags using the TCMP frame.