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Title: sharing music across the family
Post by: TheSearcher007 on June 27, 2009, 05:34:44 am
I am trying to setup a shared enviroment for my family but don't seem to be able to accomplish what I want. Here is what I want to do:

- I have a NAS and want to rip and store all the CD's .WAV format to this drive.
Basically CD images so I can always go back and recreate the origianl CD or convert to whatever new format comes out in the future. This I can do using MC or EAC. The only problem with MC is it add's these WAV's to the library of the PC used to rip.

- NAS is stand alone storage. There is no other PC always running to run some server software. The NAS is the library.

- Laptops: everyone in the family has laptops and iPod. I want them to be able to access the NAS (WAV) and sync up to their laptop. In doing this the .WAV's would be converted to MP3 (or other specificied format) and stored in the laptops My Music folder

- iPods can sync off each users laptops, where they can have their own playlists, etc.

I have tried libraries and import in MC. But these either just play from the NAS on the laptop and/or add the music on the NAS to the library but without actually converting the file and storing it on the laptop. So if the laptop leaves the network it has no music.
Title: Re: sharing music across the family
Post by: JimH on June 27, 2009, 06:54:38 am
You are better off to encode to APE, FLAC, or any lossless format.  Storing as WAV gains nothing.  You can always re-create the identical WAV file.

From any PC, you can rip to the NAS drive.  Just set the file location for ripping in MC options.

You could rip on one PC and use Explorer to transfer files.  If you do that, WAV will not include that metadata (artist, album, track, etc.).  Other formats will.  Try a few before you rip everything.

Auto Import can automatically import certain folders.

You can set up a "Handheld" sync to any device, including a laptop.

Library Server can serve files to multiple PC's and can convert them if needed.  Read about "Servers" in our wiki (link above).  In MC14, Library Server can be read/write.

Good luck.
Title: Re: sharing music across the family
Post by: hit_ny on June 28, 2009, 02:20:46 pm
I have a NAS and want to rip and store all the CD's .WAV format to this drive.
Basically CD images so I can always go back and recreate the origianl CD or convert to whatever new format comes out in the future.

It simplifies things greatly if you stick with a format that can be played on the portables without conversion. Invariably this means mp3.

You will take a (very) slight hit in quality but the transfers to the ipods will complete faster. Lame with alt-preset-extreme would be a good encoding option to go with, nearly indistinguishable from the WAV. alt-preset-standard will work with 95% of music out there as well.

However if most of the time (> 70%) is spent listening with MC vs on portables then lossless might be a better option to choose. All depends if you are an audiophile. Personally i'm quite happy with mp3 for the ease of use it provides and universal availability on any portable.

If you do choose to go with a lossless format there is a delay to convert chosen files to mp3 before being able to transfer to the ipod. It means a longer sync which i think over time could get overbearing if the ipod has a large capacity.

I would suggest taking more time to consider the many options available so as to find the best solution for your scenario.
Title: Re: sharing music across the family
Post by: ruze on August 22, 2009, 05:58:06 pm
I too rip losslessly and sync with my external USB drive so I can take a subset with me.  This can be done by setting up a handheld sync, with conversion options specified for the receiving device.  So the external USB drive is a "handheld device" for the purpose of the sync.

The only issue is of course, you have to have the external drive connected directly or via network and mapped to a drive letter.  There's also a library sync feature, but I haven't used it.

You will have to use a master machine hooked up to your NAS to run Media Center and do this.  (Unless your NAS is running WHS in which case you should be able to run MC on it.)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: sharing music across the family
Post by: jolo on August 24, 2009, 07:26:14 am
You are better off to encode to APE, FLAC, or any lossless format.  Storing as WAV gains nothing.  You can always re-create the identical WAV file.

From any PC, you can rip to the NAS drive.  Just set the file location for ripping in MC options.

You could rip on one PC and use Explorer to transfer files.  If you do that, WAV will not include that metadata (artist, album, track, etc.).  Other formats will.  Try a few before you rip everything.

Auto Import can automatically import certain folders.

You can set up a "Handheld" sync to any device, including a laptop.

Library Server can serve files to multiple PC's and can convert them if needed.  Read about "Servers" in our wiki (link above).  In MC14, Library Server can be read/write.

Good luck.


Jim,

I totally agree with you.

I am a big believer in open source and standardization.
I encode my audio in two different formats.

Thanks,

Jon

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