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More => Old Versions => Media Jukebox => Topic started by: Nikolay on July 12, 2002, 10:35:52 am

Title: New OGG encoder
Post by: Nikolay on July 12, 2002, 10:35:52 am
The next build of MJ 8.0 [build 327 -- now on Interact] will have a brand new OGG encoder.

The new version uses oggenc.exe instead of static library ( so you can update it to any version of encoder you want ). It is as fast as the Lame MP3 encoder.

Ogg encoder does not support CBR mode so it's gone only VBR encoding is available, and as far as I can see the quality even in normal mode is just fantastic.

Nikolay
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: zevele1 on July 12, 2002, 10:58:12 am
Tank you folks! As allways fast to react!

And yes ORG is much better than any mp3 format
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: KingSparta on July 12, 2002, 11:10:18 am
What Sounds Better When Trying To Play On A Car Mp3 Player, Or Personal Mp3 Player Since Ogg Is not supported?

CD -> MP3

Or

CD -> Ogg -> Mp3
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: Nikolay on July 12, 2002, 11:21:55 am
Here are the test results, we tested the same music encoded in WAV and OGG:

The best quality OGG (-q 10):
Matt - 100% found ogg file.
Raymond - 100% found ogg file.
Nikolay - can't hear difference.
Johnt - can't hear difference.
Steve - 100% found ogg file.
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: zevele1 on July 12, 2002, 11:42:30 am
Nikolay

You mean a lossless format against a not?

You have to try ORG against mp3
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: ChicoSelfs on July 12, 2002, 11:44:37 am
hurray long life to King Ogg
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: Matt on July 12, 2002, 01:56:28 pm
Yes, we tested the original against the best lossy compressions. (LAME at 320 and OGG at -q10)  Even at those high bitrates, most of us could quickly pick out the lossy version, using only $10 headphones.

And people told me I'm crazy for using lossless compression
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: Xenno on July 12, 2002, 04:03:05 pm
FYI Oggers

Ogg quality #'s (-q) w/ MJ 8.0.327 (700 MHz P3 & W2Kp)

Song:
Hope Sandoval - Butterfly Mornings (wav: 36.34 MB @ 1440 Kb/sec)

Ogg quality setting - MJ setting - Avg bitrate(Kb/s) - Filesize(MB)
1 - custom - 67 - 1.75
()- Low - 67 - 1.75
2 - custom - 78 - 2.04
()- Normal/Low - 78 - 2.04
3 - custom - 100 - 2.56
4 - custom - 111 - 2.89
()- Normal - 111 - 2.89
5 - custom - 140 - 3.57
6 - custom - 162 - 4.19
7 - custom - 181 - 4.69
()- Normal/High - 181 - 4.69
8 - custom - 204 - 5.30
9 - custom - 260 - 6.74
10 - custom - 365 - 9.32
()- High - 365 - 9.32

New version encodes twice as fast as earlier versions

MJ is looking good these days - Xenno
Title: RE:New OGG encoder
Post by: Poison Dan on July 13, 2002, 11:04:29 am
The next build of MJ 8.0 [build 327 -- now on Interact] will have a brand new OGG encoder.
The new version uses oggenc.exe instead of static library ( so you can update it to any version of encoder you want ). It is as fast as the Lame MP3 encoder.

Thank you for your quick response. Also, using oggenc.exe and providing an option for a custom quality level are great additions.

Much appreciated !